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[LilyasAvalon]

wikkedjoker wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Has anyone heard anything new of Flemeth? The more I read, the more I think it isn't chance, the impact Flemeth has on both the Warden and Hawke is far too... influencial to be truely just chance.

And let's face it, we already know that if the Warden survived, they are now missing. And then Hawke goes missing at the end of DA2... speculations speculations....

Read the books, the rabbit hole goes MUCH deeper than you think. She goes all the way back to Maric, and Logain, **** she told Maric Logain would betray him, the last time being the greatist. 

I've read both the books, I was hoping for more information in DA2. Being I jsut watched the Dalish and Flemeth video HighScoreHeroes posted.

[Aesieru]

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

Does anybody know what the Arishok is like? Personality wise.

Honorable yet dismissive, looking for something worthy, but given up on the surrounding land of Kirkwall.

[Dr. wonderful]

Aesieru wrote...

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

Does anybody know what the Arishok is like? Personality wise.

Honorable yet dismissive, looking for something worthy, but given up on the surrounding land of Kirkwall.

Also a total drama queen  is a  very religious fella.

[fighterchick]

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

Does anybody know what the Arishok is like? Personality wise.

Honorable yet dismissive, looking for something worthy, but given up on the surrounding land of Kirkwall.

Also a total drama queen  is a  very religious fella.

Pfft, aren't all the Qunari? 

[tankgirly]

Summary at 195.

[Dr. rotinaj]

fighterchicks wrote...

Pfft, aren't all the Qunari? 

You Humans are all racist!!

[Maelora]

rak72 wrote...
This.  If I don't come out of this game without a reason to just throw my keyboard at the wall, I can see myself never coming back to DA. I don't want to play a game just so I feel like I got kicked in the stomach.  I get that bad choices have bad consequences, but there needs to be a reward for good choices.

This is how I feel.

I don't mind the option to screw up.

But guaranteed screw-up is just too much.

[fighterchick]

Dr. rotinaj wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

Pfft, aren't all the Qunari? 

You Humans are all racist!!

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hmph, is that an elf as your avatar?!  Typical!  Elves always play the race card.

[Aesieru]

Maelora wrote...

rak72 wrote...
This.  If I don't come out of this game without a reason to just throw my keyboard at the wall, I can see myself never coming back to DA. I don't want to play a game just so I feel like I got kicked in the stomach.  I get that bad choices have bad consequences, but there needs to be a reward for good choices.

This is how I feel.

I don't mind the option to screw up.

But guaranteed screw-up is just too much.

Life is unfair...

Your reward is DIFFERENT but similarly 'bad' choices.

[LilyasAvalon]

Aesieru wrote...

Maelora wrote...

rak72 wrote...
This.  If I don't come out of this game without a reason to just throw my keyboard at the wall, I can see myself never coming back to DA. I don't want to play a game just so I feel like I got kicked in the stomach.  I get that bad choices have bad consequences, but there needs to be a reward for good choices.

This is how I feel.

I don't mind the option to screw up.

But guaranteed screw-up is just too much.

Life is unfair...

Your reward is DIFFERENT but similarly 'bad' choices.

Agrring with Aesieru here. Dragon Age 2 seems to have a lot more 'you need to think about this' qualities to it. Remember how in Origins, we had to choose who would rule the dwarfs? A lot of people assumed Harrowmont the better choice, but he ended up being a weak king that died shortly after he started his rule, while the seemingly coldhearted Bhelen gave the casteless a chance, helping many of them and also regaining far more of the lost thaigs then his father or anyone before him ever seemed to.

What we think is the 'good' choice is not always the best choice, I think that's what it was trying to say. Life isn't fair, DA2 seems to have this system down. You can't always agree with everyone... just like can't always save everyone... or garantee they won't turn their back on you.

[LilyasAvalon]

Sorry if I seemed too overanalytical about that, I take literature, my brain is kinda fine tuned to notice this stuff. ._.

[Maelora]

Yes, but you should have the choice to make a difference somewhere.

This doesn't sound so much as 'Kaiden or Ashley die' but 'Kaiden AND Ashley die'.

I guess we won't know exactly how things unfold until someone gets a strategy guide. It sounds more complex than the ME2 suicide mission.

[LilyasAvalon]

I think that's because everyone died in the ME2 suicide mission. Nobody really betrayed you persay, you just couldn't work well enough together while in DA2, so far, what I know so far (Anyway can correct me on this, I haven't been paying much attention today):

• Isabella is capable of betraying you and just taking off
  
• Anders betrays you and completely snaps, destroying the chantry and getting himself killed because of it
  
• It is hinted so far (To me anyway) that Fenris MIGHT betray you, completely snapping and go on a killing spree of mages
  
• Merrill... my theory is that there is a small possibility she could freak out about her entire clan being demons and whatnot and being influenced by a demon and the whole blood magic thing and she might snap, but due to her character, I see her rather running off in shock and fear because of it all.

That's all I got so far. It seems set in stone that neither Aveline nor Varric will leave/betray you, don't know enough about Sebastian yet to say anything, your surviving sister/brother has multiple outcomes, so this is also unknown to me.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 06 mars 2011 - 09:01 .

[ankuu]

When i watched the Merrill video and i saw the ritual and all, what kept coming to my head was that Flemeth is an old god...

[obnoxiousgas]

Strongly suspecting that this game is going to leave me a strung-out wreck, having to resist the urge to meta-game in order to not have the most tragic ending of them all. This is not helped by the fact that a bunch of people will have finished the game by the time I  get my hands on it.

[Maelora]

Has it been confirmed that s/s romances a) don't unlock the Paramour achievement and they don't move in with you?

[LilyasAvalon]

Maelora wrote...

Has it been confirmed that s/s romances a) don't unlock the Paramour achievement and they don't move in with you?

As corny as it sounds, I want to have Sebby's heir~

[Raygereio]

Whelp. At least now we know why the companions have fixed armours. It's so that they won't rob you blind as they take their exits.
*still is peeved about Alistair who walked out on him with his Warden Commander armour.*

LilyasAvalon wrote...
Agrring with Aesieru here. Dragon Age 2 seems to have a lot more 'you need to think about this' qualities to it. Remember how in Origins, we had to choose who would rule the dwarfs?

Oh, Ao yes. The dwarven king bit was easily the best part in Origins. I love grey and grey choices; it was a nice reprieve from BioWare's standard pure white-pitch black / grey-pitch black moves.
That said; it's not similar. The difference being that a party member walking out on you has a huge gameplay impact. I'm not just talking about items, but you can suddenly lose the ability to play the game the way you like. That's pretty drat harsh.

That and the completionist within me can't help but be annoyed if there isn't some - preferably difficult - way to get everything right.

[LilyasAvalon]

obnoxiousgas wrote...

Strongly suspecting that this game is going to leave me a strung-out wreck, having to resist the urge to meta-game in order to not have the most tragic ending of them all. This is not helped by the fact that a bunch of people will have finished the game by the time I  get my hands on it.

I know what you mean, with the sole exception of Isabella (Because it was hinted in the bloody trailer she'd betray you anyway), I have grown SO CLOSE to all these characters already, it will be difficult to watch them all kinda... vanish from your life.

I suppose that is ultimately Hawke's story though. A climb to their great political power and influence while also the decline of themselves emotionally and mentally as they watch their loved ones crumble around them.

Urgh, I feel like I'm talking silly now, maybe I should go rip an ogre in half or something. I feel like Flemeth with all this crytpic unraveling. >.<

[LilyasAvalon]

Raygereio wrote...

Whelp. At least now we know why the companions have fixed armours. It's so that they won't rob you blind as they take their exits.
*still is peeved about Alistair who walked out on him with his Warden Commander armour.*

LilyasAvalon wrote...
Agrring with Aesieru here. Dragon Age 2 seems to have a lot more 'you need to think about this' qualities to it. Remember how in Origins, we had to choose who would rule the dwarfs?

Oh, Ao yes. The dwarven king bit was easily the best part in Origins. I love grey and grey choices; it was a nice reprieve from BioWare's standard pure white-pitch black / grey-pitch black moves.
That said; it's not similar. The difference being that a party member walking out on you has a huge gameplay impact. I'm not just talking about items, but you can suddenly lose the ability to play the game the way you like. That's pretty drat harsh.

That and the completionist within me can't help but be annoyed if there isn't some - preferably difficult - way to get everything right.

Oh definately, I wasn't using it as a comparison, it's more of an evolution of the concept.

[Maelora]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Maelora wrote...
Has it been confirmed that s/s romances a) don't unlock the Paramour achievement and they don't move in with you?

As corny as it sounds, I want to have Sebby's heir~

But we knew he was going to be chaste.

Do we know if the others don't count if you take the s/s route?

[LilyasAvalon]

Maelora wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Maelora wrote...
Has it been confirmed that s/s romances a) don't unlock the Paramour achievement and they don't move in with you?

As corny as it sounds, I want to have Sebby's heir~

But we knew he was going to be chaste.

Do we know if the others don't count if you take the s/s route?

SHHH!  I have to cling to hope that he'll break his vows if he becomes King or ruler or whatever he is.

[Maelora]

[quote]LilyasAvalon wrote...
I suppose that is ultimately Hawke's story though. A climb to their great political power and influence while also the decline of themselves emotionally and mentally as they watch their loved ones crumble around them.
[quote]

That doesn't sound much fun as a game, to be honest.  As a film or book, maybe, but a game where there's an automatic bad ending no matter what you do?

[raziel3080]

I believe Klace mentioned he played a male rogue n romanced Fenris...and that didn't trigger the achievement/trophy( for those on the ps3 like me)...and the moving in bit, I have no idea...he didn't answer that. he is doing another playthrough with a female mage n Merrill as his romance this time, so we will see...

[LilyasAvalon]

Maelora wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...
I suppose that is ultimately Hawke's story though. A climb to their great political power and influence while also the decline of themselves emotionally and mentally as they watch their loved ones crumble around them.

That doesn't sound much fun as a game, to be honest.  As a film or book, maybe, but a game where there's an automatic bad ending no matter what you do?

It's a cinematic game, same concept I suppose. Anyway, I have a feeling this is how MY Hawke will turn out with all the blighted mistakes I'm going to make in my first playthrough. xD

Besides, I'm only speaking from what I've heard so far, I could be entirely wrong for all I know. xD

We may end up with everyone alive and happy and eating fairy cupcakes underneath the sugarplum rainbow..

...Urgh, that's it, I'm definately going off to kill a High Dragon now or something.