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#4776
casedawgz

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Klace wrote...

Riosred wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Riosred wrote...

Wait.....hawke disappears?? Did i read that right?


Same as the Warden, it looks like.  Leliana says this can't be coincidence.


Os this how the game ends??


Yup. :)
It's quite an unexpected ending, Lelianna pops out of nowhere and is a Seeker with Cassandra.
And they walk off.


Is that as utterly lame in execution as it sounds in theory?

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casedawgz wrote...

Klace wrote...

Riosred wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Riosred wrote...

Wait.....hawke disappears?? Did i read that right?


Same as the Warden, it looks like.  Leliana says this can't be coincidence.


Os this how the game ends??


Yup. :)
It's quite an unexpected ending, Lelianna pops out of nowhere and is a Seeker with Cassandra.
And they walk off.


Is that as utterly lame in execution as it sounds in theory?


I rather enjoyed it.

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Klace wrote...

Riosred wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Riosred wrote...

Wait.....hawke disappears?? Did i read that right?


Same as the Warden, it looks like.  Leliana says this can't be coincidence.


Os this how the game ends??


Yup. :)
It's quite an unexpected ending, Lelianna pops out of nowhere and is a Seeker with Cassandra.
And they walk off.


Wow a cliffhanger...so much for an expansion pack....or playing hawke in da3.....crazy

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RinjiRenee wrote...

I thought I heard somewhere that the armor could eventually be gifted to you, but maybe I heard wrong.


I had always assummed you would get it once you became the 'champion of kirkwall'...as that would seem to make the most sense to me...

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casedawgz

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I dunno, I just hate cliffhangars. Sounds like there's no closure at the end.

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raziel3080 wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

I thought I heard somewhere that the armor could eventually be gifted to you, but maybe I heard wrong.


I had always assummed you would get it once you became the 'champion of kirkwall'...as that would seem to make the most sense to me...


You get items in mail sometimes. I could have gotten it and it passed my eye at the late night hours I was playing.

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Rinji the Bearded

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Going back to bed. This is gonna be rough next two days or so.

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Klace wrote...

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Klace, how many times does the game cut to Varric and Cassandra?


5 or 6 times I believe.


Please tell me that you can get Hawke's Champion armor in regular gameplay...please? His mage armor is the main reason I'm rolling a mage.


I never ran into my Rogue champion armor. Cannot confirm this.


Well...can you at least tell me about all of the exagerated bits, at least...?  Are many of them tied to the main story and Cassandra calls Varric out for it...? Please tell me that by the last one, Varric's all like "Yeah, Yeah...real story.  Coming right up." or something like that.

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Cylanthegreat wrote...

Klace wrote...

Cylanthegreat wrote...

Klace wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Klace, how many times does the game cut to Varric and Cassandra?


5 or 6 times I believe.


Please tell me that you can get Hawke's Champion armor in regular gameplay...please? His mage armor is the main reason I'm rolling a mage.


I never ran into my Rogue champion armor. Cannot confirm this.


Well...can you at least tell me about all of the exagerated bits, at least...?  Are many of them tied to the main story and Cassandra calls Varric out for it...? Please tell me that by the last one, Varric's all like "Yeah, Yeah...real story.  Coming right up." or something like that.


The only exaggerated Hawke is the opening...
Hawke exaggerates for a minute during his personal quest and that's it.

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Going back to bed. This is gonna be rough next two days or so.


I think I'm gonna head to bed myself( or atleast after I watch the Merrill scene n hear her voice on youtube on my phone some more.:wub:)

@Klace... Ahhh... I see, I'll be checking that then...alot...considering how muc of a pack rat I am..with the unique items...especially DA.

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wikkedjoker wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Has anyone heard anything new of Flemeth? The more I read, the more I think it isn't chance, the impact Flemeth has on both the Warden and Hawke is far too... influencial to be truely just chance.

And let's face it, we already know that if the Warden survived, they are now missing. And then Hawke goes missing at the end of DA2... speculations speculations....

Read the books, the rabbit hole goes MUCH deeper than you think. She goes all the way back to Maric, and Logain, **** she told Maric Logain would betray him, the last time being the greatist. 

Actually she goes even more way back, if my reading of the CE of the DAO Strategy Guide which included the history of Thedas was correct, we're talking before the previous blight kind of way back.

Klace wrote...
It's a main quest :)


DAMMIT! :P

Meh, figured it might be, oh well I guess Merrill truly is a keeper :P

Keep 'er left in her house at the Alienage that is >:D

I plan on doing a 'Hawke don't like Mages' playthrough in which any guaranteed recruited mages are left in their places and any that don't need to be recruited aren't.... even if that means that crazy fool Anders still blows up the Chantry. It'll just give my Hawke more reasoning for not liking mages and being first inline to ensure the rite of annullment is completed. Course I'll probably have to play on one of the lower difficulty settings as I imagine trying to do such on Nightmare would be damn hard :P

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Well, I have to hand it to Piggyback. This guide is incredibly "spoiler-controlled". From what I have been able to gather by perusing it, I don't see any form of secret companion. This may be because the entirety of the game seems to revolve around your main companions and throwing someone in at the last minute would be odd. It looks like there are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.

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Hawke disappearing can't be a coincidence since the surviving Warden 'mysteriously' vanishes as well. I smell a Flemeth plot. >.> <.< >.>

Anyway, Klace, I have to ask, do time skips interfere with your inventory like it did in the demo?

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Zanallen wrote...

Well, I have to hand it to Piggyback. This guide is incredibly "spoiler-controlled". From what I have been able to gather by perusing it, I don't see any form of secret companion. This may be because the entirety of the game seems to revolve around your main companions and throwing someone in at the last minute would be odd. It looks like there are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.


It's easy to save Anders. Just don't choose to kill him.
We're still working on finding out if The Chantry has to go kaboom or if it can be prevented.
I don't think it can.
Because that's what makes Meredith invoke Annulment.
And that's what makes you choose to side with Orsino or Meredith.

Modifié par Klace, 06 mars 2011 - 10:08 .


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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Hawke disappearing can't be a coincidence since the surviving Warden 'mysteriously' vanishes as well. I smell a Flemeth plot. >.> <.< >.>

Anyway, Klace, I have to ask, do time skips interfere with your inventory like it did in the demo?


No they don't.

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Klace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Well, I have to hand it to Piggyback. This guide is incredibly "spoiler-controlled". From what I have been able to gather by perusing it, I don't see any form of secret companion. This may be because the entirety of the game seems to revolve around your main companions and throwing someone in at the last minute would be odd. It looks like there are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.


It's easy to save Anders. Just don't choose to kill him.
We're still working on finding out if The Chantry has to go kaboom or if it can be prevented.
I don't think it can.


Ah, so I can decide to not kil him after he blows the Chantry?

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I don't think it can be prevented either, being it has to tie in with Meredith and the power hungry and controlling thingy she's got going on.

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Why didn't you tell us we had a choice not to kill Anders!? T_T

I was freaking out there!

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Can you tell us what we need to do in order to get the respect of The Arishok?
Guy with the strategy guide.
Also the link for the spoiler sig is: http://i52.tinypic.com/nyfdx3.jpg

Modifié par Klace, 06 mars 2011 - 10:10 .


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casedawgz wrote...

I dunno, I just hate cliffhangars. Sounds like there's no closure at the end.


The conflicts internal to the game sound as if they're resolved. Its just Hawke's ultimate fate that isn't, similar to the Warden but more direct, there's obviously something going on with the important people of the age.

Modifié par Morroian, 06 mars 2011 - 10:11 .


#4796
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Zanallen, is it worth buying the guide or not? With how INDEPTH this all is, I'm tempted to buy one after my first playthrough.

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Klace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Well, I have to hand it to Piggyback. This guide is incredibly "spoiler-controlled". From what I have been able to gather by perusing it, I don't see any form of secret companion. This may be because the entirety of the game seems to revolve around your main companions and throwing someone in at the last minute would be odd. It looks like there are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.


It's easy to save Anders. Just don't choose to kill him.
We're still working on finding out if The Chantry has to go kaboom or if it can be prevented.
I don't think it can.
Because that's what makes Meredith invoke Annulment.
And that's what makes you choose to side with Orsino or Meredith.


But if you side with Meredith,you can still take Anders with you or you have to kill him?

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Zanallen wrote...
It looks like there are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.

.... Whatwhatwhatwhat. I'd very much like details on this so I don't do that. I'm not losing Sebastian over Anders.

#4799
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hhh89 wrote...

Klace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Well, I have to hand it to Piggyback. This guide is incredibly "spoiler-controlled". From what I have been able to gather by perusing it, I don't see any form of secret companion. This may be because the entirety of the game seems to revolve around your main companions and throwing someone in at the last minute would be odd. It looks like there are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.


It's easy to save Anders. Just don't choose to kill him.
We're still working on finding out if The Chantry has to go kaboom or if it can be prevented.
I don't think it can.
Because that's what makes Meredith invoke Annulment.
And that's what makes you choose to side with Orsino or Meredith.


But if you side with Meredith,you can still take Anders with you or you have to kill him?


This I don't know.

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Didn't Mike Laidlaw imply that they had plans to extended the story of Dragon Age 2 pass the point of the original ending in the live stream they had yesterady? Or was I the only one who noted that?