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#4901
Malja

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

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So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Goodness. I mean, I love that but don't think I'll actually enjoy it. If that makes sense. Interesting though.

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So, no Alistair screenshot yet? :-(

#4903
LilyasAvalon

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UndercoverDoctor wrote...

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I'm getting confused still what people are saying by the whole rivalary/friendship thing. Some people are saying friends are more likely to do things... like... say... blow up the chantry, while others are saying it's the other way around.


The Chantry is doomed either way.  It may really depend on friendship/rivalry status for what those circumstances are.


Ka-boom go the little orphans... I miss snarky fun loving yet kindly Anders of Awakening. Posted Image

I for one am glad Anders is more serious. I like that he has matured and evolved as a character.

I am too, I just don't exactly like how that evolution has resulted into Anders wanting to blow up orphan filled chantries.

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Four? Klace lost Isabela, Bethany and Anders. He had Varric, Merrill, Fenris and Aveline

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Aww balls... Posted Image

But it will be possible to keep Aveline, Merril, Varric and (oh please, please!) Carver together in the end? Right??

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Actually, it looks like you can save everyone except Anders and Sebastian. One of them goes no matter what.

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Zanallen wrote...

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Hehe, he's a stubborn one.  And it doesn't say anything about the circumstances around the Chantry when it blows up?


The guide doesn't mention the chantry at all. Just that something happens which brings things to a head and you have to pick sides. It also mentions that you have to decide to have Anders come with you, kill him or set him free. At this point, other party members may leave as well.


I see, and nothing about who escapes... Interesting.  I wish I had the preloaded game so I could see that movie for myself.  Does it say anything about Anders's side quest in Act 3, like a walthrough for that at all?  I think Klace said it was called "Justice."  It might have to do with you agreeing about distracting the Grand Cleric, or what Klace said.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 06 mars 2011 - 12:39 .


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Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Goodness. I mean, I love that but don't think I'll actually enjoy it. If that makes sense. Interesting though.

You love the idea of Team Harem? Being surrounded by three yummy boys? Dear maker, yes. Posted Image

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Zanallen wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Actually, it looks like you can save everyone except Anders and Sebastian. One of them goes no matter what.


Thanks for the infoPosted Image

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Rovay wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Aww balls... Posted Image

But it will be possible to keep Aveline, Merril, Varric and (oh please, please!) Carver together in the end? Right??


Do you really want the answer?

#4911
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Zanallen wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Actually, it looks like you can save everyone except Anders and Sebastian. One of them goes no matter what.


Oh ho? How does it work if Sebastian's DLC isn't even present?

#4912
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Zanallen wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Actually, it looks like you can save everyone except Anders and Sebastian. One of them goes no matter what.

Oh dear irony, the two I'm caught between romancing as well for my first playthrough, how lovely... Is bioware doing this on purpose? Posted Image

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

Goodness. I mean, I love that but don't think I'll actually enjoy it. If that makes sense. Interesting though.

You love the idea of Team Harem? Being surrounded by three yummy boys? Dear maker, yes. Posted Image


Posted Image Not what I meant but now that you mention it...

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Can you post or type in exactly what makes you think that anyway, Zanallen?

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I'm guessing Carver isn't going to make it no matter what you do. Unless he becomes a Grey Warden.

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Zanallen wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Actually, it looks like you can save everyone except Anders and Sebastian. One of them goes no matter what.

Awesome. The comapnions I care about the most, heh.

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Zanallen wrote...

Rovay wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Aww balls... Posted Image

But it will be possible to keep Aveline, Merril, Varric and (oh please, please!) Carver together in the end? Right??



Do you really want the answer?



I'm already prepared for the worst outcome... Hit me.

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Zanallen wrote...

Rovay wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Rovay wrote...

So... Is there ANY way of keeping all your companions by the end game?

As we know of, no, not yet. So far, it sounds like you will lose at LEAST 4 of your companions, regardless.

This blows my plans for Team Harem out of the water now.


Aww balls... Posted Image

But it will be possible to keep Aveline, Merril, Varric and (oh please, please!) Carver together in the end? Right??


Do you really want the answer?



Well, we know that the sibling probably goes away. But the others could remain with Hawke right?

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RinjiRenee wrote...

I see, and nothing about who escapes... Interesting.  I wish I had the preloaded game so I could see that movie for myself.  Does it say anything about Anders's side quest in Act 3, like a walthrough for that at all?  I think Klace said it was called "Justice."  It might have to do with you agreeing about distracting the Grand Cleric, or what Klace said.


There is a basic walkthrough, but it omits all spoilers. It just tells you where you need to go and lists friendship/rivalry consequences depending on who you bring with you and what you decide.

#4920
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Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

Goodness. I mean, I love that but don't think I'll actually enjoy it. If that makes sense. Interesting though.

You love the idea of Team Harem? Being surrounded by three yummy boys? Dear maker, yes. Posted Image


Posted Image Not what I meant but now that you mention it...

You love the idea of losing 1* (1 damnit, 1, not 4!... Or was it that... *Can't remember) party member?

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I really want to know when the Anders vs Sebastian thing takes place. :( I need to prepare myself for Anders' inevitable departure.

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Zanallen wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

I see, and nothing about who escapes... Interesting.  I wish I had the preloaded game so I could see that movie for myself.  Does it say anything about Anders's side quest in Act 3, like a walthrough for that at all?  I think Klace said it was called "Justice."  It might have to do with you agreeing about distracting the Grand Cleric, or what Klace said.


There is a basic walkthrough, but it omits all spoilers. It just tells you where you need to go and lists friendship/rivalry consequences depending on who you bring with you and what you decide.


I see, and I guess that's the same for that Justice quest.  No details at all on what you have to do?  Consequences and etc?

BTW, thanks for all this info and effort. :wizard:

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 06 mars 2011 - 12:43 .


#4923
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LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

Goodness. I mean, I love that but don't think I'll actually enjoy it. If that makes sense. Interesting though.

You love the idea of Team Harem? Being surrounded by three yummy boys? Dear maker, yes. Posted Image


Posted Image Not what I meant but now that you mention it...

You love the idea of losing 1* (1 damnit, 1, not 4!... Or was it that... *Can't remember) party member?


I love the concept of it yes. It adds a more serious undertone where you have to make a decision about those you surround yourself with on a personal level, not just an easy way out. I mean, Origins had Loghain/Alistair, but you really didn't have any means to be attached to Loghain unless you read the books. Even then, this choice is likely to have more impact than that event.

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Rovay wrote...

I'm already prepared for the worst outcome... Hit me.


Well, as we should all know, if you don't take your sibling with you to the Deep Roads, they leave the group (Carver to Templars and Bethany to the Circle). If you take them, they get tainted and die. However, if Anders is with your party, you get the option to have them become Grey Wardens. Your sibling then leaves the group. The guide then lists a series of quests that you need to do by the end of the game. If you do them, your sibling will be there at the start of the final act and you can have them join you again.

As for Anders and Seb. If you don't kill Anders after the whole Chantry thing, Seb leaves. The guide says that you can't talk him out of it. So, its either Anders or Seb.

#4925
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Chaste prince with possible marriage or cute, sexable mage from Awakening...

...I still say Bioware is doing this on purpose.