arsonic wrote...
I don't think she expected it, but I think she can see why. But it's not a black and white moral decision, that's for sure. It actually made me think about my Origins characters- my Cousland's idea of justice was killing Howe, she executed Loghain and Jowan, made Harrowmont king, would've probably killed the Architect. My Amell let Jowan go free twice, made Bhelen king, spared the Architect, did the Dark Ritual without blinking because "magic is magic". Like someone said, if Anders, say, saved my sibling from dying in the Deep Roads, had been a good friend throughout the whole time I'd known him, and then destroyed the head of the organization oppressing my kind? It would be a way different response than, say, a warrior Hawke who thought mages were okay but needed to be watched, who maybe was in love with Fenris. The "right" thing to do is going to be different depending how you're playing it, and I dig that.
The lying...that, I do have a problem with. If we're such good friends/LI's I would be hurt and angry that he didn't trust me and that he tricked me into doing something, whether I agreed with it or not. But if I did agree, maybe I could decide that the end justified the means. Damn you Bioware. CHOICES<_<
The choice not being black and white doesn't condone his actions nor is it a justifications for what he has undoubtly done. Being a good friend up to that point or saving Hawke's siblings from the Blight doesn't somehow "even" it out, either. His actions are horrifying regardless.
I'm going to quote it again because it obviously needs to be:
St Mael wrote...
I find it weird how people are still ignorantly raging against the chantry and have impregnated into their heads the idea that they will have it burn in their playthroughs.
I also finished the game and I want to inform you people that the game lore depicts the chantry as a completely different faction than the templars. The game is all about mages vs. templars and not mages vs. chantry.
After finishing the game I noticed that the chantry, through Elthina, was the only voice of reason within the whole cluster**** between the templars and the mages. The Grand Cleric never showed support to Meredith, thus proving the templar - chantry relation completely irrelevant, on the contrary she did voice her sympathy regarding the terrible situation of the mages when prompted in conversation.
Thus I find it very disconcerting that the chantry is still the one organization that truly suffers from everything that happens. Both Orsino and Meredith were proven in the end to be rotten to core while Elthina was the only truly decent one, and yet she was killed and the chantry destroyed because of that idiot Anders. I still can't believe what a douche he was and how he could do something so terrible. Now I really hate his character, I couldn't find myself not to go against the mages with the Rite of Anulment after that. Thankfully I was able to stick it to Meredith too in the end.
In conclusion I just wanted to point out that the Chantry is not evil at all and that people should reconsider their attitudes regarding it, no matter whether they choose the mages or templars path to go through a few levels when the story gets near the end (the whole thing is just a game mechanic anyway and both choices lead to the same thing).