hhh89 wrote...
arsonic wrote...
Chignon wrote...
arsonic wrote...
It doesn't to you, that's my point. To other people, it might. Your character obviously wouldn't agree or condone it, I can see one of mine doing so for the reasons mentioned.
I wasn't trying to talk anyone out of their opinion, I was relaying my own. At least we can agree on that if not on anything else.
Yeah, like I said, I'm not trying to make anyone mad. 
I think it's a credit to the game writing that it can cause such debate. And @hhh89, I can absolutely see a mage killing Anders for what he did, I'm pretty sure it'll be an option.
I'm also sort of curious about the Friendship/Rivalry thing with Anders mattering again, because from what I'm getting, the guide pretty much implied that he's going to do this no matter what, yes? I just can't see a Rivalry Hawke doing anything other than killing him. It might have been cool to be able to convince Anders he was wrong that way and then have Orsino blow up the Chantry (since we fight the guy anyway). But since we're told we definitely have to make a choice...yeah. Probably not happening.
Maybe (and I I want to mark MAYBE) Anders or Seb left the party depending the side you choose (of course in the case of a rival Anders, and Orsino destroys the chantry). I really don't know. It's lame that even if we choose the rivarly path Anders destroys the Chantry.
I'm reading the Hepler post again, and:
As a general rule, the way friendship and rivalry works, is that friendship means agreeing with and supporting the follower in what *they* want to do, no matter how crazy, illogical or dangerous to self and others. Rivalry means opposing their big cause, often for the right reasons. So it's very possible to be a better friend to someone by choosing the rivalry path, since you're trying to stop them from giving in to their own self-destructive whims. It's not always the most intuitive, but definitely don't think of friendship as doing the "right" thing and rivalry as doing the "bad" thing. It's just as likely to be the other way around.
I note she said "trying" to stop. I am not filled with hope for redemption, alas, especially because I think he's a non-optional companion in game.<_< Although all this talk makes me anxious to see what results klace gets with a Rival Anders playthrough.
@chignon and everyone else: Agreed. I enjoyed your points of view as well. I honestly could go either way, and I'll have the playthroughs to show for it. The Anders thing is just so jarring because all we have of him is Awakening, and then the recruitment mission where he just seems like a beaten puppy. Then, you know, we get this. The Anders thread is going to explode with angst in a few days.
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