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hhh89 wrote...

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One question comes to mind after reading all these helpful spoilers: can you still agree on some things with them (ex: if the companion wanted to do something nice, like save innocents or something generic like that) and disagree with other things (ex: Anders, for instance blew up the chantry. I dont like that)? Like, if you were a good character and your companions wanted some things good but other things in a not so good fashion, could you agree with the right things and oppose the wrong things and still have them stand by you?
This has been plauging my mind ever since I learned that all your companions secretly hate you and I would really appreciate it if someone could clear this up.
:?


They don't hate Hawke. They have their objectives. Like Hawke has his/her own objectives. I like that (though Anders seems too extreme).


I know they dont hate hawke. I was joking. I was wondering though if that agreeing with their good actions and disagreeing with their not-so-good options only leads to strife.

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So, you don't have to play Awakenings (in order to find Nathaniel), and making Beth/Carver a Warden?

Modifié par Auroras, 06 mars 2011 - 07:27 .


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KawaiiKatie wrote...
That's no excuse! Seriously! Where would The Warden go, but not take his/her love interest? Or at least leave a note! Or.... give some clue to wear he/she is going! FANGIRL... RAGE... BUILDING....!



Remember Revan? He leave Bastilla behind because he thought it would be bad if he brings her into the Unknown

ALSO:
Regarding the whole Warden and Hawke gone missing:

REVAN, he too got missing

Bioware just LOVE sending their protagonists into the Unknown

Modifié par Sargerus, 06 mars 2011 - 07:29 .


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Auroras wrote...

So, you don't have to play Awakenings (in order to find Nathaniel)??


I'd love to know that as well since it's relevant for whether I'll bring Beth/Carver along for the Deep Roads quest. If anyone knows and can tell us, it'd be greatly appreciated.

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Chignon wrote...

Auroras wrote...

So, you don't have to play Awakenings (in order to find Nathaniel)??


I'd love to know that as well since it's relevant for whether I'll bring Beth/Carver along for the Deep Roads quest. If anyone knows and can tell us, it'd be greatly appreciated.


Vanallen said in his post that in order to let Beth or Carver become a GW you have to bring Anders with you, and he makes the ritual (don't know how).

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Also, is any mention of what Flemeth is at all?

Modifié par Sargerus, 06 mars 2011 - 07:28 .


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hhh89 wrote...

gecos wrote...


  didn't sound like a joke to me and he wasn't under the influence of the Fade spirit either when he said it.


To me it doesn't sound too serious. Even if he hates the Wardens, it's not because they force him to hand over the cat. I think it's because they tried to kill him.


Exactly. He's masking something true and hurtful with something also true but slightly less hurtful and sorta jokey. It's what he does.

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Aesieru wrote...

To be fair...

Ser Pounce A-lot was a pretty good cat..


He was crunchy and tasted good with ketchup.

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here's the post



Zanallen wrote...

Well, as we should all know, if you don't take your sibling with you to the Deep Roads, they leave the group (Carver to Templars and Bethany to the Circle). If you take them, they get tainted and die. However, if Anders is with your party, you get the option to have them become Grey Wardens. Your sibling then leaves the group. The guide then lists a series of quests that you need to do by the end of the game. If you do them, your sibling will be there at the start of the final act and you can have them join you again.

As for Anders and Seb. If you don't kill Anders after the whole Chantry thing, Seb leaves. The guide says that you can't talk him out of it. So, its either Anders or Seb.


I want to aks Zanallen if the sibling returns as companion.

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SurelyForth wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

gecos wrote...


  didn't sound like a joke to me and he wasn't under the influence of the Fade spirit either when he said it.


To me it doesn't sound too serious. Even if he hates the Wardens, it's not because they force him to hand over the cat. I think it's because they tried to kill him.


Exactly. He's masking something true and hurtful with something also true but slightly less hurtful and sorta jokey. It's what he does.


Or maybe he is THAT insane!

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hhh89 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Auroras wrote...

So, you don't have to play Awakenings (in order to find Nathaniel)??


I'd love to know that as well since it's relevant for whether I'll bring Beth/Carver along for the Deep Roads quest. If anyone knows and can tell us, it'd be greatly appreciated.


Vanallen said in his post that in order to let Beth or Carver become a GW you have to bring Anders with you, and he makes the ritual (don't know how).


Thank you!

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Could someone please elaborate on that part where Merril goes 'bats*it insane'? I must've missed that part.

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I'm sorry. I must have missed something in this thread - when did the wardens recruit a templar to watch Anders? Was the pcwarden involved? Does Anders have any love for the pcwarden??

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The Big Nothing wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Do the chldren escape if you don't distract the Cleric?


We have no idea at this point.


I hope so. The last thing I need is the thought that Anders will always be a child killer in my head.  

He killed men, women and children at worship during a service.


I don't care what you say, he did wrong.


Although Anders may seem like an S.O.B., it all depends on the P.O.V., B.F.F.

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Rovay wrote...

Could someone please elaborate on that part where Merril goes 'bats*it insane'? I must've missed that part.


I don't know if she really goes insane. I know that she wants to find a demon (for recovering lost elven lore maybe) and we find that the demon is inside Marethari. We have to kill her, and then the clan attacks us. I don't know if it will be always like that.

I want to remind everyone, that we don't know at waht level of friendship/rivarly were Hawke's companion in Klace's playthrough. I'll ask him when he comes there.

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debbiepuff wrote...

I'm sorry. I must have missed something in this thread - when did the wardens recruit a templar to watch Anders? Was the pcwarden involved? Does Anders have any love for the pcwarden??


It was in Anders story when they've announced the romance. Probably it isn't the decision of our Warden.

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The Aeishok sounds like Clancy Brown

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hhh89 wrote...

Rovay wrote...

Could someone please elaborate on that part where Merril goes 'bats*it insane'? I must've missed that part.


I don't know if she really goes insane. I know that she wants to find a demon (for recovering lost elven lore maybe) and we find that the demon is inside Marethari. We have to kill her, and then the clan attacks us. I don't know if it will be always like that.

I want to remind everyone, that we don't know at waht level of friendship/rivarly were Hawke's companion in Klace's playthrough. I'll ask him when he comes there.


And killing Marethari will make Merril go away? Or that we'll just have Happy Dalish Killing Fun Time with her helping us?

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Newnation wrote...

The Aeishok sounds like Clancy Brown


I thought I recognized that voice.

#5295
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Aesieru wrote...

To be fair...

Ser Pounce A-lot was a pretty good cat..

Posted Image


Open your eyes and I see your eyes are open
Wear no disguise for me
Come into the open

When it's cold outside
Am I here in vain?
Hold on to the night
There will be no shame

Always
I wanna be with you
And make believe with you
And live in harmony harmony oh love

Melting the ice for me
Jump into the ocean
Hold back the tide I see
Your love in motion

When it's cold outside
Am I here in vain?
Hold on to the night
There will be no shame

Always
I wanna be with you
And make-believe with you
And live in harmony, harmony oh love

Always
I wanna be with you
And make-believe with you
And live in harmony, harmony oh love

When it's cold outside
Am I here in vain?
Hold on to the night
There will be no shame

Always
I wanna be with you
And make-believe with you
And live in harmony, harmony oh love

Always
I wanna be with you
And make-believe with you
And live in harmony, harmony oh love

#5296
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Rovay wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Rovay wrote...

Could someone please elaborate on that part where Merril goes 'bats*it insane'? I must've missed that part.


I don't know if she really goes insane. I know that she wants to find a demon (for recovering lost elven lore maybe) and we find that the demon is inside Marethari. We have to kill her, and then the clan attacks us. I don't know if it will be always like that.

I want to remind everyone, that we don't know at waht level of friendship/rivarly were Hawke's companion in Klace's playthrough. I'll ask him when he comes there.


And killing Marethari will make Merril go away? Or that we'll just have Happy Dalish Killing Fun Time with her helping us?


Merill doesn't go away or leave you. She doesn't go insane either, the clan pretty much betrays her so she has to defend herself.

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I think that the main secret is to make a LOT of saves. A LOOOOT of saves!!!

#5298
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Rovay wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Rovay wrote...

Could someone please elaborate on that part where Merril goes 'bats*it insane'? I must've missed that part.


I don't know if she really goes insane. I know that she wants to find a demon (for recovering lost elven lore maybe) and we find that the demon is inside Marethari. We have to kill her, and then the clan attacks us. I don't know if it will be always like that.

I want to remind everyone, that we don't know at waht level of friendship/rivarly were Hawke's companion in Klace's playthrough. I'll ask him when he comes there.


And killing Marethari will make Merril go away? Or that we'll just have Happy Dalish Killing Fun Time with her helping us?


No, Merrill doesn't go away. Posted Image

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Klace! If I can ask, at waht level of friendship/rivarly you were with the companions?

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hhh89 wrote...

It was in Anders story when they've announced the romance. Probably it isn't the decision of our Warden.


Ahhh...thanks!  I'll have to go read that  :)