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[arsonic]

tankgirly wrote...

Need to go out, so update summary early:


82. if we choose the rivarly path in full Isabela may agree on handing the relic to the Qunari.
83. If you don't help him distract the Grand Cleric, they get away. Anders realizes that you were right and he almost did something horrible, asks for forgiveness. Seb will still be mad enough to leave if you do so, just because he tried. The Templar/Mage end game stuff still kicks off because it's still an assassination attempt on the Grand Cleric by a mage (I knew someone else will do it!).

The Isabela thing is unconfirmed I believe, but more importantly:

The Grand Cleric escaping/Anders theory was something I was guessing at earlier in the thread. It is NOT NOT NOT confirmed by anyone with the game and I have doubts about it too, to be honest. As of now we have no idea if being a Rival with Anders changes anything. I was just throwing out guesses/scenarios.

I don't want to be responsible for false hope Especially because after thinking about it more, it's probably wrong.

Modifié par arsonic, 06 mars 2011 - 09:19 .

[Ninjacat513]

dahle wrote...

FASherman wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

FASherman wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Also, regarding the Warden's disappearance. I do think it was involuntary and something to do with Flemeth. Even more so now that we know Hawke goes missing by the end of DA2 as well.

My guess is that in DA3, you become the Something of Orlais, who also goes missing and then in DA4, the fina in the series, you find the three main characters from the first three. The final Boss Battle is an epic battle where all 4 of your DA characters join together to defeat the Flemeth/Abomination and end the blights for ever.

Or not.

If the devs keep to their original promise of the Dragon Age games not being about a singular person, but rather, the entire lore and world, that is probably what is going to happen.

But so far, a few of them are already talking about Hawke in DA3 and Cassandra and... ngh...

So what do we know that could help figure this out?

Two religions clashed to create the first blight. The Tevinter Imperium worshipped the Old Gods. It was at the beckoning of the Old Gods that the magisters attempted to usurp the Maker's throne by entering the Golden City of the Maker, which corrupted it and led to the first Blight. The Tevinter Imperium suffered the brunt of the First Blight and was subsequently toppled in an invasion by southern barbarians led by the prophetess Andraste.

The archdemons are tainted Old Gods, infected and warped, not what they once were. Morrigan's ritual was an attempt to free an Old God from the taint, but to what end?

So the blight is the result of Old Gods vs. Andraste.

Now, lets consider the result...

What Andraste leaves behind is the Chantry, founded in Orlais (hence my belief for that as the next setting). Hand in hand with the Chantry is the Templars, who subjugate the mages, whereas in the Imperium, mages were the ruling class.

So, now we have Old Gods/Mages vs, Andraste/Chantry/Templars

Where does Flemmeth fit in? She seems to have a special relationship with the elves. Elven slaves supported Andraste's uprising against the Tevinter Imperium. The elves joined Andraste to depose the Tevinter magisters, and they were rewarded for their loyalty by being granted land in the Dales upon Andraste's victory.

And think about Flemmeth's initial meeting with Hawke. Doesn't she sound a bit like a prophetess, trying to decide if its destiny or not? What if those nuts in the cave were partly right? What if Andraste is a dragon after all? What if she is Andraste?

Would this not explain why Morrigan was seeking the soul of an Old God, free from the taint?

What if the final chapter of Dragon Age is:

Morrigan/God-baby(if you chose)/Old Gods/Mages vs, Flmmeth/Andraste/Chantry/Templars/Elves

And YOU have to chose how it all ends.

 That sounds AWESOME:)

Oh, Maker.  Several lightbulbs just erupted in my head....Flemeth = Andraste?  It could happen.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Flemeth being Andraste, huh? That would be quite the mind rape.

[AzuraLuna]

Auroras wrote...

WrexKroganKing wrote...

Yeah, because your career determines your sexual orientation.

In both Leliana and Zevran's cases, it guides one's sexual orientation, fo sho.

To be an Antivan Crow, Zevran said that one has to have a certain open-mindedness apropos to a question about his sexual orientation. It is the same with the Orlesian bards, I assume. Some missions require a person to seduce their target, no matter their gender. 

Their jobs were influenced by their orientation, not the other way around.  An good assassin/bard can still get to their targets, it's just a bit easier if they're seduced.  Why sneak into the target's bedroom and risk getting caught if you can
get invited in?

[RogueGeth]

@RinjiRenee: But a logical mind rape. Ironic...

[Ninjacat513]

Yes, hence the "OMFG WHAT" gif.

I think I need a juice pouch now. @_@

[Klace]

I don't think I can confirm the Deep Roads outcome within 40 minutes. Apologies.

[dreamextractor]

I wonder if Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran become actual party members, or just characters that fight by your side for the last boss? (Like how Anders and Isabela fight with you when you recruit them, but they aren't a companion yet)

[brightredscream]

I think this individual has gotten it completely right. Flemeth is Andraste. I'll bet my life savings onnit.

[nos_astra]

*swoops in*
Hello! Thanks for this very entertaining thread. I didn't want to purchase DA2 before I read all the stuff about rivalry and betrayal. Now I need to decide if that is worth the money.

I also want to make puppy dog eyes and ask for an Alistair screenshot. Look, I even added the banner to my signature to appease the spoiler gods.

[namedforthemoon]

Klace wrote...

I don't think I can confirm the Deep Roads outcome within 40 minutes. Apologies.

Damn. It's okay, I can browse the forums on my cell phone at work. If I have time, that is.

[C9316]

So.....anyone gonna make an image with the Arishok saying NO?

[Ninjacat513]

dreamextractor wrote...

I wonder if Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran become actual party members, or just characters that fight by your side for the last boss? (Like how Anders and Isabela fight with you when you recruit them, but they aren't a companion yet)

I think they're just there to help you.  Kinda like the Dalish/Mages/Dwarves/Human Knights/Werewolves/Templars did in Origins for the final battle in Denerim.

[Ajwol Semreth]

Has there been confirmation of a 'secret companion' yet?

[The Elder King]

dreamextractor wrote...

I wonder if Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran become actual party members, or just characters that fight by your side for the last boss? (Like how Anders and Isabela fight with you when you recruit them, but they aren't a companion yet)

They are not companions.

[OHM_LO]

@ Klace

I was a little fuzzy before, i of course meant that you need Anders to join you in the Darkroads, to save Hawkes sibling's (if you guy with the official guide is to be believed). Also what I'm most excited to hear is if you can save the mother!

[Thicos]

will be there spells combinations?

[Rinji the Bearded]

Thicos wrote...

will be there spells combinations?

Not that I know of.  They are implementing something different now.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Malja wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

3-4 more days until release... are we all spoilered out?

Only thing that could spoil us any more is the full game in detail at this point hahah.

Knowledge is power.

And we guard it well.

[Vaelidor]

So glad I read these spoilers before playing....now to get my Hawke in the right mindset to get ready for launch.

[Ryzaki]

Sleeping with both genders is vastly different than *wanting* to sleep with both genders.

[Dr. wonderful]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sleeping with both genders is vastly different than *wanting* to sleep with both genders.

I should know.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

is someone doing another summary today?

[Sophiatje]

Is Seb really straight? I mean he remains chaste anyway, so why can´t he be bi-romantic. I get that you wouldn´t be able to marry him with MHawke, but it is sad that I need to have a Lady Hawke if I want to hear him confirm a relationship with me.

[Valeria Cousland]

arsonic wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Need to go out, so update summary early:


82. if we choose the rivarly path in full Isabela may agree on handing the relic to the Qunari.
83. If you don't help him distract the Grand Cleric, they get away. Anders realizes that you were right and he almost did something horrible, asks for forgiveness. Seb will still be mad enough to leave if you do so, just because he tried. The Templar/Mage end game stuff still kicks off because it's still an assassination attempt on the Grand Cleric by a mage (I knew someone else will do it!).

The Isabela thing is unconfirmed I believe, but more importantly:

The Grand Cleric escaping/Anders theory was something I was guessing at earlier in the thread. It is NOT NOT NOT confirmed by anyone with the game and I have doubts about it too, to be honest. As of now we have no idea if being a Rival with Anders changes anything. I was just throwing out guesses/scenarios.

I don't want to be responsible for false hope Especially because after thinking about it more, it's probably wrong.

You were the one who put that out there? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

I'm still hoping for there to be a way to "lessen" the Chantry explosion thing with Anders. I'm sure it'll happen, but I really hope we can decrease the number of victims.