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TheCreeper

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Good news is I heard that once you reach max rival/Friendship it stays their for everyone but sibs, so once you make your friends they won't leave you.

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Dante Angelo

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The Big Nothing wrote...

It's not all about happy endings, people. Go watch carebears if you can't take it.

You know what I think I will

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Phate Phoenix wrote...

I agree. This whole 'rivalry' and 'friendship' thing is starting to sound more and more like the Paragon-Renegade options from ME2. And I mean ME2, where it doesn't matter how often you choose one, it's the percent you did over what you could have done that determines the outcomes.

Gah, I hope I'm just overthinking it. Because that would just... suck.

What would also suck is if, by having a rivalry with someone, it means you can't do any quests for them. Because if completeing quests = friendship points, well, sorry guys! Screw your problems--I'm saving you by ignoring you! Posted Image


No, it's not like that. You can do their quests and gain a lot of rivarly points.

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Klace wrote...

I ran into Carver again. He knew what happened to Leandra.
He seemed really jerkish. He didn't even want to chat he wanted to leave.


Does he blame you for her death?

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Well, to be honest as much as I tried to avoid reading this topic, doing so was a good thing. I don't know exactly what happens at the end (and God forbid I should find out,) but I know enough to make sure I can roleplay my canon Hawke effectively.

So just a thanks to everyone contributing :)

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Klace wrote...

I ran into Carver again. He knew what happened to Leandra.
He seemed really jerkish. He didn't even want to chat he wanted to leave.


Does he blame you for her death?

Doesn't Carver blame Hawke for everything

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Valeria Cousland

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TheCreeper wrote...

Good news is I heard that once you reach max rival/Friendship it stays their for everyone but sibs, so once you make your friends they won't leave you.


That would be really really helpful if true.

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... I'm REALLY starting to hate this friendship/rivalry bull****.
IT"S SO EFFING CONFUSING!!!! Im definitely gonna be one of the "Well screw this, im done with you all!' Hawkes.

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Klace, in what act you are?

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Klace wrote...

I ran into Carver again. He knew what happened to Leandra.
He seemed really jerkish. He didn't even want to chat he wanted to leave.


Does he blame you for her death?


No. He said he's sure I did my best to try and stop it.

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Phate Phoenix wrote...

I agree. This whole 'rivalry' and 'friendship' thing is starting to sound more and more like the Paragon-Renegade options from ME2. And I mean ME2, where it doesn't matter how often you choose one, it's the percent you did over what you could have done that determines the outcomes.

Gah, I hope I'm just overthinking it. Because that would just... suck.

What would also suck is if, by having a rivalry with someone, it means you can't do any quests for them. Because if completeing quests = friendship points, well, sorry guys! Screw your problems--I'm saving you by ignoring you! Posted Image


I believe a dev posted/ said in a video that you would most of the rivalry/ friendship points from doing the companion quests. Which means you can get either of those in any given situation. It all comes down to how you choose to handle it. 

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Klace wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Klace wrote...

I ran into Carver again. He knew what happened to Leandra.
He seemed really jerkish. He didn't even want to chat he wanted to leave.


Does he blame you for her death?


No. He said he's sure I did my best to try and stop it.


That doesn't sound very jerkish, though.

Where did you run into him again? The same will probably happen for Beth, too, if she joins the Wardens.

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What act does this thing with Leandra happen? I wonder if having the elf servant affects it at all.

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Oneiropolos

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Dante Angelo wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Well, Hawke and the Warden disappear around the same time, right? Maybe BOTH of them just said screw it and now they're off killing things and disappearing into tents together. And probably inviting Zev along.

Bullsh*t!! That's not what happened!!


Well, we do know they disappeared around the same time and that's somehow important and seems to be setting up DA3. But I was being silly in saying they ran off together in a romantic sense. Just trying to lighten the impending feeling of doom that this game is going to depress me immensely. :pinched:

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The Big Nothing

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solstickan wrote...

This game is sounding soo depressing. Either people die, or they turn on you, or they abandon you.


Oh my god, it's almost like... real life. Noooooooooooooo!

#5666
XX-Pyro

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As long as Hawke doesn't die, nothing BioWare throws at me will deter me from finding a satisfactory ending.

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Dante Angelo

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Oneiropolos wrote...

Dante Angelo wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

Well, Hawke and the Warden disappear around the same time, right? Maybe BOTH of them just said screw it and now they're off killing things and disappearing into tents together. And probably inviting Zev along.

Bullsh*t!! That's not what happened!!


Well, we do know they disappeared around the same time and that's somehow important and seems to be setting up DA3. But I was being silly in saying they ran off together in a romantic sense. Just trying to lighten the impending feeling of doom that this game is going to depress me immensely. :pinched:

The most believable theory for me is that Flemeth kidnapped the warden and Hawke

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Please, Klace, tell me Carver doesn't have that crap outfit......
Anyway, there are some quests you've got about him?

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I've a random, random question, and I'm pretty sure that it's been answered before, but I've forgotten.

Which quest has the Zevran cameo? And when is it? It's not really late in the game, right...?

I'm just trying to gauge how long I have to wait to meet Zevran again, and hear his thoughts on his missing beloved. Because I'm still all torn up about the fact that my M!Tabris and Zevran can't be together. *sniff*

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The Big Nothing wrote...

solstickan wrote...

This game is sounding soo depressing. Either people die, or they turn on you, or they abandon you.


Oh my god, it's almost like... real life. Noooooooooooooo!


I LOLed a bit there Posted Image

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Klace wrote...

We were in the friendly zone when that happened...
I got friend points for doing the quest needed to initiate the making out. So not rivalmance.


Oh my, if he comes back please inform us...
The heck, these whole relationship thing is starting to seem more and more a mess. Now they leave even after starting the relationship and being in a friendly zone.
We don't need a guide, we need some Freud to analyze these characters. 
It doesn't make sense, seems like the writers just decided to turn every situation in the worst possible drama. Really, I don't want happy ending unicorns ranbows and sparkling dolphins...but a bit of normal realism, a bit of sense o_O 

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Valeria Cousland wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Good news is I heard that once you reach max rival/Friendship it stays their for everyone but sibs, so once you make your friends they won't leave you.


That would be really really helpful if true.


Oh that would be good - fingers  crossed Posted Image

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The Big Nothing wrote...

solstickan wrote...

This game is sounding soo depressing. Either people die, or they turn on you, or they abandon you.


Oh my god, it's almost like... real life. Noooooooooooooo!


Your life, maybe.  ::hops back on unicorn and rides a rainbow into the sunset, leaving marshmallow kisses in her wake::

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Oneiropolos

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The Big Nothing wrote...

solstickan wrote...

This game is sounding soo depressing. Either people die, or they turn on you, or they abandon you.


Oh my god, it's almost like... real life. Noooooooooooooo!


...I thought *I* was a pessimist. Last I checked, I have friends who haven't abandoned me, betrayed me, or who I've been forced to kill. And no one in my family has been killed by a serial killer or tainted by evil. Or killed by an ogre. There a line between 'bad things happen' and 'oh dear god, are you going to stop giving me bad news at any point time?'.  Plus, if a game is so realistic and like real life, why would one use it as escapism? A lot of people have lives that suck. I kinda thought games were so we could have a chance while playing to, you know, forget that life sucks. :mellow:

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The Big Nothing wrote...

solstickan wrote...

This game is sounding soo depressing. Either people die, or they turn on you, or they abandon you.


Oh my god, it's almost like... real life. Noooooooooooooo!


If this is what your life consists of, you have my profound sympathies. :innocent: