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#5701
solstickan

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

You know, I remember how the Devs kept saying that the Rival/Friendship system was going to be AWESOME and that if you roleplay a consistent character, you'll still win! Even characters who hate you will stay with you! No longer will you have to CHEAT THE SYSTEM and make choices based on the APPROVAL GAIN!

What a load! Apparently, we're STILL going to have to cheat the system, even with our enemies! I won't be thinking "what would my character do?" I'll be thinking "what should my character do TO GAIN THOSE LAST FEW RIVALRY POINTS so that Fenris won't WALK OUT ON ME HALFWAY THROUGH SEX."

........ugh. Just.... ugh.


I'd say it has more to do with having a consistent personality. In DAO you had to be nice to your companions if you didn't want them to leave. In DA2 you can be an ass and still develop a deeper relationship with the companion. I imagine that as long as you keep thinking "what would your character do", you will gain rivalry/ friendship correctly. 

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Wissenschaft wrote...

I think we need a walkthrough to full understand how to max out the Friendship/Rivalry of each Companion.


That sounds like a good idea.  At this point I'm a little confused about how it works and I played ME2.

#5703
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After becoming The Champion I received The Gauntlet's of The Champion.
Bonus for complete item set. It appears you CAN get the Exaggerated armor. =D

#5704
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Klace wrote...

After becoming The Champion I received The Gauntlet's of The Champion.
Bonus for complete item set. It appears you CAN get the Exaggerated armor. =D


so there is some hope i like the look of the Exaggerated warrior Armor

#5705
XX-Pyro

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Do you only get the gauntlets? Or do you get the set?

#5706
Klace

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I only got Gauntlets automatically. I bet I have to seek out the rest.

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In addition to pyro's question, when do you become champion exactly?

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Cheese00 wrote...

In addition to pyro's question, when do you become champion exactly?


You become The Champion after driving out the Qunari from Kirkwall.

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Fenris and me made up. He apologized for leaving me then he said he'd gladly be by my side in his future. We kissed.

#5710
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Klace wrote...

Cheese00 wrote...

In addition to pyro's question, when do you become champion exactly?


You become The Champion after driving out the Qunari from Kirkwall.


um at what point can you take the mantle of viscount for your self?

#5711
Rinji the Bearded

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Without Isabela, did you never find the book/relic?

#5712
XX-Pyro

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Dumb slave, leaves for the rough times then comes back after everything is goody good.

#5713
Rinji the Bearded

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Klace wrote...

Fenris and me made up. He apologized for leaving me then he said he'd gladly be by my side in his future. We kissed.


D'awww.  Well that was sweet.

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Osena109 wrote...

Klace wrote...

Cheese00 wrote...

In addition to pyro's question, when do you become champion exactly?


You become The Champion after driving out the Qunari from Kirkwall.


um at what point can you take the mantle of viscount for your self?


At the end of the game. After Meredith/Orsino die. Everyone bows down to you.

#5715
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Klace wrote...

Fenris and me made up. He apologized for leaving me then he said he'd gladly be by my side in his future. We kissed.


Thanks, I am relieved...if he just left in that way it wouldn't have really made any sense. 

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How do the upgrades for companions armor look?

#5717
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Klace wrote...

Fenris and me made up. He apologized for leaving me then he said he'd gladly be by my side in his future. We kissed.


Awwwwwwwwwww! I'm so happy for you two!

Do you get to move in together now? Or... not so much?

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The Big Nothing wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

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solstickan wrote...

This game is sounding soo depressing. Either people die, or they turn on you, or they abandon you.


Oh my god, it's almost like... real life. Noooooooooooooo!


...I thought *I* was a pessimist. Last I checked, I have friends who haven't abandoned me, betrayed me, or who I've been forced to kill. And no one in my family has been killed by a serial killer or tainted by evil. Or killed by an ogre. There a line between 'bad things happen' and 'oh dear god, are you going to stop giving me bad news at any point time?'.  Plus, if a game is so realistic and like real life, why would one use it as escapism? A lot of people have lives that suck. I kinda thought games were so we could have a chance while playing to, you know, forget that life sucks. :mellow:


Unless they are using reverse psychology by making our game experience so miserable, we will be grateful for our relatively minor problems IRL. :blink:


Bioware: Philanthropists for Geeks.


:lol:

#5719
Rinji the Bearded

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I wonder if you become Viscount if siding with the Mages.  Heh.

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Sorry if this has been said, but why do we think there is possibility of marriage at end (ie Seb.) if hawke's ending is they disappear?

#5721
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...so it seems that i have to be a complete jerk for them to not stab me in the back? ..goody i always play evil characters anyways being good is overrated.

#5722
Rinji the Bearded

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Riosred wrote...

Sorry if this has been said, but why do we think there is possibility of marriage at end (ie Seb.) if hawke's ending is they disappear?


I think they ruled out marriage before, and I don't think Klace has Seb.  Seb won't be activated until release date.

#5723
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I am now very very confuse about the whole friendship/rivalry thingy. Let's say if I refuse to help Anders to distract the Grand Cleric, I will get eh rivalry point, right? Does that means he won't be there to help me in the final battle because I did not do his quest?

#5724
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I heard somewhere that Merrill gets demonically possessed...

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so, klace, any special gain after becoming champion appart from the gauntlets?
XP?money? maybe the red mark over the nose?