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#5726
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XX55XX wrote...

I heard somewhere that Merrill gets demonically possessed...


She does not. :)

#5727
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wtf

#5728
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What was Merrils quest again ? She is one of the companions I want to keep, but if she is like Anders... Could I side with her and the Templars ? Templars dont effect Dalsih right ?

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Are we having one of those server problem again? I've been post my comment three times now and keep getting knock out and saying the site is under maintenance.

#5730
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The site is probably just being overwhelmed by the number of posts.

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Wissenschaft wrote...

The site is probably just being overwhelmed by the number of posts.


Sorry. x3

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Klace, see if this time you can see alistair, cuz i know many fangirls/fanboys are dieing to see him.

also, see if you can get zevran to join your party, not nesisarily sleep with you, just join you

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Okay! I will do that. I will get a pic too if Drunk Alistair comes up.

#5734
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@Ericander77, It had been said Zevran, Nathaniel will join you in the final fight, I am very happy with that alone.

#5735
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Klace, you're awesome for all the spoilers!

#5736
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so, klace, any special gain after becoming champion appart from the gauntlets?
XP?money? maybe the red mark over the nose?

#5737
Blood-Lord Thanatos

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can mages get any special gear like for bloodmages or spirit healers?

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Klace is the serial killer Glascard the Orlesian guy?

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I'm excited about the excessive potential for betrayal and disaster, actually. But my poor mage Lady Hawke is going to be bound in a straightjacket and rambling incoherently to herself by the time this whole story is done with.
And I wouldn't have it any other way. *is sadistic*
Bring on the suffering and heartache, Bioware!

On another note... holy jeez on that Fenris thing, with the whole pushed up against the wall then kiss thing. I mean, I'm planning to romance Anders the first several times, but... whew. Fenny.

At least we know this game is going to be insanely replayable. It'll take me way too many playthroughs to get an ending I'm relatively happy with. Yay for having no social life whatsoever for weeks after March 8th!
:D

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what sort of mage talents should I take if I want to role-play a pride demon in disguise? In DA2, I mean?

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First things first, we have this lovely warning from the dev :

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

A reminder for the late shift, spoilers stay in this thread which is tolerated only because it is clearly marked. No drift to other threads. And hey, as a personal preference, how about no giggly little "OMG, I just heard something, go to spoilerz!" posts. Seriously, don't be that guy.



And no more stream link . We got warning, too.

And for the save measure, I removed all the screenie you guys had painstakingly taken. Thank you. I will keep it in a save file and quard it day and night.

The bold ones are the updates since the last post.


Summary


1. Zevran appeared in one of the Sundermount quest. His screenie
2. Nathaniel appeared in one of the Deep Road quest.
3. Leliana appeared in one of the Basti quest. Possible Leliana
4. Fenris live in what possibly his former master's mansion (next door to Hawk's), Merill in Alienage, Anders in his clinic, Isabela and Varric, not certain about Aveline or Basti
5. There is a cap on levels, though I got very confused about the numbers.
6. Bethany has three endings: Join the Circle, Died in the Deep Road, or Join the GW (?)
7. Carver has three endings: Join the Templar, Died in the DR, or Join the GW.
8. The talking darkspawn Disciple appeared in the DR.
9. There is something about Meredith's eyes.
10. Meredith is one of the final boss.
11. Defeating Meredith is one of the secret achievement.
12. Some dialogue by Hawk's mother hinted she was not aware of whatever Hawk's relationship was in.
13. Hawk was  in Kirkwall when the news of the Blight was finished by the Warden reached him/her.

14. Fenris' former Tevinter Magister Master's name is Danarius.
15. A quick look at the erf files hints that these are some of the gifts for the companions. Take this as extreme speculation:

Anders: Key + an amulet
Aveline: Shield
Fenris: Book + a sword
Isabela: Ship?! + a talisman
Merrill: Halla?! + a ring
Sebastian: Bow

How to access the file from the demo: Program Files>Dragon Age 2 Demo>modules>campaign_base>data>designerplots in wordpad/notepad and search "gift".
16. There is a new blood mage speciality (?)
17. And Aveline/Quanary Quest Link
18. Fenris apprear to hate mage and thinks everyone should be made tranquil. (Possible only rivarly romance route for the mage Hawk).
19. Anders appear to hate Templar.
20. Merrill appears to be bi.
21. Cullen appeared in one of the guest, along with some guy named Wilmod LInk
22. There is a brothel in Kirkwall (right, very important to some of us!).
23. There is a blood mage sanctuary and it doesn't seem to be Anders clinic.
24. Carver and Bethany's codex entries
25. DA II Gaming guide
(possiblly partial)

26. According to the quides. Cameos from the Origins series:


Alistair
Leliana
Zevran
Nathaniel
Bodhan and Sandal
Cullen
Justice?
Sketch
Bonny Lem
Sophia Dryden

27.Infos floating around 4chan suggested Flemeth might played bigger role in DA II (possibly the spirit possessed Meredith).
28. Basti is an LI.
29. It is very strongly suggested Anders could be bi (from his flirt with H!Hawk and the traguil mage KArl he was trying to rescue).
30. The ritual mentionted in Merrill's backstory involves her chanting in Dalish and Flemeth pops out of the amulet (Lord Vordy in HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!). IT seems she put a little piece of her soul in it because she figured that Morrigan would come back with the Warden to kill her. She gives some cryptic advice and says that she's thankful, but she pities Hawke because of the road ahead. She then turns into a dragon and flies off.
31. Sandle was in game.
32. Zathrian was mentioned in game.
33. There is minore flirting line on Carver to Merrill!!!OMG!!!!
34. Merrill: "Why do they called it Brothel? Does that have something do to with broth?"
35. Cullen is now the Knight Captain (wow).
36. Fenris is also strongly suggested he is bi. We now have all 4 bi.
37. There are several Qunari related quest in Kirkwall (to my delight).
38. Fenris's preslave name is Leto.
39. Fenris had a sister, who was sided with Danarius, his former magister master.
40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice.

41. When going to the Deep Road, if you take Bethany/Carver with you, Bethany/Carver will contract the taint and you will have the choice to slay them or leave them in the DR. This is possibly when your Awakening import save file click in. Nathaniel will save Bethany/Carver by making them a Grey Warden.
42. If you leave them in their estate, Bethany will be dragged away and join the Circle and Carver will join the Templar willingly.
43. Mama Hawk could be died,too.

44. Zevran will flirt with you and tried to sleep with you, then your LI will step in.
45. The Warden will be mentioned by Zevran.
46. Hawk can sleep with Zevran.
47. The "relic" was a holy Qunari book written by the founder of the Qun religion.
48. The Arishok will not be allowed to leave Kirkwall until he finds that book.
49. Issie knew a along what the relic was.
50. During the Fade quest, a demon would offer Merrill a scion of the Dalish. Delined to let Merrill to do it will result in rivalry level inclease.
51. Merill has an Eluvian in her bedroom and her quests are trying to get it back in working order.

52. There will be LI confrontation.
53. Aveline will remarried and honeymooned in Orlais.
54. If you made Bhelen king in DA:O Harrowmont's relative is in Kirkwall.
55. There's a man being confronted by a group of dalish, and he said he used to be a werewolf, but the hero of Ferelden helped him turn back. And he said he was sorry for killing the elves when he was a werwolf, but the dalish still want to kill him. You can step in and help him, and the elves get angry and attack.
56. The subquests hinting the main plot: Mages V.S. Templars.
57. At one stage you will receive the letter from King Alistair, which triggered the cameo (assumed you let Alistair as king in Origin) of Ali and Teagan.
58. Cullen was also suspecious of Meredith.
59. Merrill was being used by the demon to complete the mirror so they can channel to the real world (Doctor Who!!!!!!!!!)
60. Merrill's Keeper was the demon (no wonder she looks different) and her clan will turn against you once you kill her.
61. There's an Orlesian woman who goes missing from her husband and the family suspects the husband. Do this quest, you learn more women have gone missing, KEEP DOING THIS QUEST.
62. One of the Anders ending (surely it depends on the Rilvary/Friendly scale) was He didn't want help separating Justice from him. He was concocting something to destroy The Chantry. He blew up the ENTIRE freaking Chantry in Kirkwall with some massive spell.Then Meredith ordered The Right of Annulment to execute every Mage in Kirkwall.
63. There are 13 different endinds.
64. Letter from Alistair quest is in Act 3.
65. Track down Zevran quest was given on the quest giver.
66. Morrigan is mentioned by Flemeth but no cameo.
67. It was Leliana who retrieved the book Cassandra tossed at Varric at the beginning of the game. It was indicated that she joined the Seekers in order to search for the Warden (KOTOR!).
68. It was the Grey Warden made Anders get rid of Ser Pounce-A-Lot.
69. New Zevran screenie
70. Anders will turned into Justice in the Fade. So do not take Merrill or him in the Fade quest.
71. There are a few ways to keep Anders without killing him, though you might lose Sebastian in the process.
72. A bartender in Kirkwall mentioned pigeon population in Ferelden was decreasing.
73. There is a rumour around you can married Basti if you are a female.
74. There is another way to save your siblings: Take Anders to the Deep Road with you. He's a Grey Warden.
75. To ensure your siblings returned in the future, do whatever quests that's related to them after the joining.
76. If you didn't kill Anders after the Chantry thingy, Basti will leave ( how charming).
77. You can have up to 8 active companions when fighting the last boss. Including NPCs if you do their quests.
78. If you side with the mages, Fenris will leave unless you have 100% friendship/rivalry. It looks like you get a second chance to rerecruit him if "you have a solid friendship".
79. As the last boss loses health, you can be joined by your sibs, Varric, Anders, Aveline, Fenris, Isabela and Sebastian. They supposedly show up in that order, baring you already having them in your party, being dead or having left you. The NPCs are, in order, Donnic (Have to have Aveline in your main party), Zevran and Nathaniel.
80. Donnic is the name of Aveline's second husband.
81. There´s an achievement for exorcising a party member.
82. if we choose the rivarly path in full Isabela may agree on handing the relic to the Qunari.

83. A quest comes up with a dwarf offering to give you all the money you need to go to the Deep Roads as long as you pay him back more. It's an easy way to fund your expedition. But apparently he wants more and more money and he has ambushed me at the start of act 2 demanding it.
84. So far it seemed inavoidable for Leandra's death.
85. Anders stole the Warden maps from another Grey Warden planning an expedition to The Deep Roads. He reveals this after Carver is inflicted with The Blight. Anders doesn't turn him into a Grey Warden, you do a quest to find the Wardens in the Deep Roads named Stroud. Who takes Carver away and says you may never see him again. That same Grey Warden shows up during the end of Act 2 saying there are urgent Grey Warden issues and they are too important to even help Kirkwall stop the Qunari war.
86. Isabella seems to be an optional companion, so is Fenris (TGP had confirmed the possiblity).
87. Leave Kirkwall in Act 2 with Fenris in your party to activate his story arc. Slaver/Sister. In this quest you can recruit an elf girl to be a servant at your home.
88. FemHawke doesn't want Fenris to leave, so she reaches out to grab his shoulder. He glows blue and gets mad, pinning her against the wall before they kiss and make out. HOT (OMFG!!!!!!!!).
89. Fenris will leave for a while but return later.
90. If Fenris is with you when you confront The Arishok at the end of act 2, he will use his knowledge of The Qun to invoke a 1 on 1 duel between Hawke and The Arishok.








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Modifié par tankgirly, 07 mars 2011 - 02:01 .


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Modifié par tankgirly, 07 mars 2011 - 02:07 .


#5743
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Stupid Server.

Modifié par tankgirly, 07 mars 2011 - 02:39 .


#5744
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still no alistair pics?Posted Image

#5745
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For next re-cap so far:

There's an option to give Fenris back to Danarius during his last personal quest.

You can get The Champion armor.

You become Viscount at the end of the game after Meredith/Orsino die.

#5746
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Interesting. You become the Viscount, yet Cassandra doesn't know where you are. Have you 100% completed the game?

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Klace wrote...

Fenris and me made up. He apologized for leaving me then he said he'd gladly be by my side in his future. We kissed.


Did you do/say anything differently that you recall to trigger him leaving(other than gender)? I wonder if it's because you're playing a mage.

#5748
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New Spoiler:

Blowing up of The Chantry by Anders is unavoidable! It happens no matter what.
I guess it's an issue of morals. Whether or not you did his personal quest to have a hand in it.

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Klace wrote...

New Spoiler:

Blowing up of The Chantry by Anders is unavoidable! It happens no matter what.
I guess it's an issue of morals. Whether or not you did his personal quest to have a hand in it.


Okay, here's my question then.

Is there any option to talk to him when you confront him?  If so, what does he say?

#5750
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EDIT:  Double post... freaking servers.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 07 mars 2011 - 02:30 .