Just saw Alistair~ He appeared in place of Shroud at the end of Act 2 with the Grey Wardens since Anora was queen. He looks and sounds the same though, and was covered with a lot of blood.
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#5902
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:50
MadSpaz1327
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Is there a way to keep Isabela from leaving? Just saw a guy do both options with the book and she left both times.
#5903
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:52
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Zabaniya wrote...
We're well aware of that. It's his actions, which are very real (except you replace magic with bombs) and the consequences of such actions which heats most people up. Although I'm going to have to say that some of the responses are more influenced by being able to use him in Awakening.
I think that's why they DID bring Anders back instead of introducing a new mage - because a lot of people played through Awakening with him, and have an emotional attachment. If you don't really care about the character at first and then go through the game, it seems a lot more black and white and easier to not get attached by the end. But if you already have fondness for the character, then all of a sudden it becomes a decision that's suddenly less about the whole picture and more about someone you love and what they did and why they did it. You're more likely to take into the "why he did it" than you are to only look at the "what he did." I think it adds a lot of depth (at least for those who like Anders). I kinda want to talk to someone who didn't play through Awakening once they finish the game and see what they thought/what they decided.
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#5904
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:53
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I'm sure there's a metaphor with forum banning, Bioware, Anders, the Chantry, Templars, and the Mages. But I'm not going there.
Oddly enough, if it WASN'T for all the things said in this thread that I read, I wouldn't have bought the official strategy guide and would have just waited for the wiki to catch up in place of it. The little bit of spoilers I've shared with some friends are actually what made them cave and order DA II today rather than waiting for a ton of reviews to judge it. So yay for the thread.
But, completely on topic, I'll probably never be able to knife Anders either. I'll probably tell him to run. I still don't get why people go "But these characters aren't real!"... so? I sob at episodes of shows that hit me hard, and I KNOW the Doctor doesn't really exist. That doesn't mean I'm not emotionally attached to the character. Anders was my favorite character in Awakening... the concept that he'll do something exceedingly foolish and be the cause of hundreds dying to come? Breaks my heart. I kinda assumed when we heard Vengeance had taken over, we'd be able to talk him down from it... not get duped by him or actually cheer him on for it. Like I said... Anders is going to fall from being my favorite. I'll pity him, but honestly, he sounds like he went a little nuts too. Which well, he did, but saying his name is going to be echoed through ages and the like? Yeeeeeeeah. He was trying to be a martyr in his hatred.
What he did was effective. But there's always ways to bring about change that don't involve that sort of violence. Sometimes, it IS the only option... but does he really give us a chance to find a different way first? Sure, no one did anything for a long time about the situation. But that doesn't mean a compromise couldn't be found. My original warden is currently Alistair's Queen. She knew Anders and fought beside him and trusts in him... if she doesn't disappear till later, why didn't he feel he could approach her about the issue? Also, my Warden would have kicked the butt of whoever made Anders get rid of his cat. She gave him that cat. >
Oddly enough, if it WASN'T for all the things said in this thread that I read, I wouldn't have bought the official strategy guide and would have just waited for the wiki to catch up in place of it. The little bit of spoilers I've shared with some friends are actually what made them cave and order DA II today rather than waiting for a ton of reviews to judge it. So yay for the thread.
But, completely on topic, I'll probably never be able to knife Anders either. I'll probably tell him to run. I still don't get why people go "But these characters aren't real!"... so? I sob at episodes of shows that hit me hard, and I KNOW the Doctor doesn't really exist. That doesn't mean I'm not emotionally attached to the character. Anders was my favorite character in Awakening... the concept that he'll do something exceedingly foolish and be the cause of hundreds dying to come? Breaks my heart. I kinda assumed when we heard Vengeance had taken over, we'd be able to talk him down from it... not get duped by him or actually cheer him on for it. Like I said... Anders is going to fall from being my favorite. I'll pity him, but honestly, he sounds like he went a little nuts too. Which well, he did, but saying his name is going to be echoed through ages and the like? Yeeeeeeeah. He was trying to be a martyr in his hatred.
What he did was effective. But there's always ways to bring about change that don't involve that sort of violence. Sometimes, it IS the only option... but does he really give us a chance to find a different way first? Sure, no one did anything for a long time about the situation. But that doesn't mean a compromise couldn't be found. My original warden is currently Alistair's Queen. She knew Anders and fought beside him and trusts in him... if she doesn't disappear till later, why didn't he feel he could approach her about the issue? Also, my Warden would have kicked the butt of whoever made Anders get rid of his cat. She gave him that cat. >
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#5905
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:56
AndrahilAdrian
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can i help anders blow up the chantry?
#5906
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 05:59
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Looks like Isabella WILL come back with the book, possibly, if you say you'll give it to her instead of telling her to fork it over to the Qunari. Or at least have a high enough gauge when you tell her that.
#5908
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:01
MadSpaz1327
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haha. you must be watching the same thing i am.
#5909
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:03
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Acerbus Wings wrote...
Just saw Alistair~ He appeared in place of Shroud at the end of Act 2 with the Grey Wardens since Anora was queen. He looks and sounds the same though, and was covered with a lot of blood.
Oh-hello! Now I know what to do with my only Dalish Origin saves!
#5910
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:03
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Cobra The Mad wrote...
Zabaniya wrote...
Cobra The Mad wrote...
Wow lol, everyone sure is getting heated up about what Anders did - and he's not even real!
I can say though, I'll be siding with him probably on my play through. Makes for interesting story.
We're well aware of that. It's his actions, which are very real (except you replace magic with bombs) and the consequences of such actions which heats most people up. Although I'm going to have to say that some of the responses are more influenced by being able to use him in Awakening.
Yeah, but in the end its still a game. If people want to be worked up about something that could be real, how about the real life revolutions that are happening in egypt or iraq?
Course to each his own I suppose.
This is a video game forum, and you're surprised we take video games far, far too seriously?
Heck, not just a video game forum, but the official game developer's forum, no less.
#5911
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:05
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There's an option to give Isabella over to the Qunari
#5912
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:05
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debbiepuff wrote...
There's an option to give Isabella over to the Qunari
Really?
#5913
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:08
debbiepuff
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Ninjacat513 wrote...
debbiepuff wrote...
There's an option to give Isabella over to the Qunari
Really?
Yep. Not sure what the outcome is since it wasn't chosen.
Alistair was awesome!
#5914
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:08
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Ninjacat513 wrote...
debbiepuff wrote...
There's an option to give Isabella over to the Qunari
Really?
Oooohhh if so I gotta try that out. AuA
#5915
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:08
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No screenie? D=Acerbus Wings wrote...
Just saw Alistair~ He appeared in place of Shroud at the end of Act 2 with the Grey Wardens since Anora was queen. He looks and sounds the same though, and was covered with a lot of blood.
#5917
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:09
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debbiepuff wrote...
Ninjacat513 wrote...
debbiepuff wrote...
There's an option to give Isabella over to the Qunari
Really?
Yep. Not sure what the outcome is since it wasn't chosen.
Alistair was awesome!
I feel left out. ;~; Dunno how people are getting that information!
#5918
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:09
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namedforthemoon wrote...
I shall take that option.
moi aussi^_^
@Fisthir, tabboo, no no.
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#5919
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:09
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"68. It was the Grey Warden made Anders get rid of Ser Pounce-A-Lot"
ohh poo....
"40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice."
soo....is it even possible to do this ? or Anders will never agree with it ? :s
ohh poo....
"40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice."
soo....is it even possible to do this ? or Anders will never agree with it ? :s
#5920
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:11
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debbiepuff wrote...
There's an option to give Isabella over to the Qunari
Haha, for real?! I might just have to go that route
#5921
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:11
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Noooooooooooooooooooooo
Isabela must live and she must stay with me. My Goddess, don't forsake me!
Isabela must live and she must stay with me. My Goddess, don't forsake me!
#5922
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:12
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LilyasAvalon wrote...
No screenie? D=Acerbus Wings wrote...
Just saw Alistair~ He appeared in place of Shroud at the end of Act 2 with the Grey Wardens since Anora was queen. He looks and sounds the same though, and was covered with a lot of blood.
Nothing I can take pic with and I can't go back to that point, sadly. Too bad, since Alistair made the whole "Grey Wardens are busy and can't help" thing less cold.
#5923
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:12
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milikmt27 wrote...
"68. It was the Grey Warden made Anders get rid of Ser Pounce-A-Lot"
ohh poo....
"40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice."
soo....is it even possible to do this ? or Anders will never agree with it ? :s
I think 68. was a joke made by Anders
as for 40. For what I know it was suggested by Anders, and it was revealed it was a lie later.
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#5924
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:12
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Whats the best major choices to pick in dragon age orgins so i have a reallly good save transfer for DA2
#5925
Posté 07 mars 2011 - 06:14
tankgirly
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ReD BaKen9 wrote...
Whats the best major choices to pick in dragon age orgins so i have a reallly good save transfer for DA2
Trial and error, I suppose. I've got nearly 20 playthroughs (three profiles) to choose from.
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