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#6126
UndercoverDoctor

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If Fenris is the only companion that stays with Hawke after the events of Dragon Age 2, I wonder if he will be a returning companion for the inevitable expansion pack.

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UndercoverDoctor wrote...

If Fenris is the only companion that stays with Hawke after the events of Dragon Age 2, I wonder if he will be a returning companion for the inevitable expansion pack.


Wait, what? Can somebody explain this to me?

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Fenris stays with Hakwe if he's the romance option. It's not always like that.

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Guys, I'm a bit late to the party but I want to clarify: does Anders destroy the Chantry only if he's a 'friend')?

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Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Guys, I'm a bit late to the party but I want to clarify: does Anders destroy the Chantry only if he's a 'friend')?



It seems that he always destroy the Chantry.

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UndercoverDoctor wrote...

If Fenris is the only companion that stays with Hawke after the events of Dragon Age 2, I wonder if he will be a returning companion for the inevitable expansion pack.


One person friendship-romanced Fenris and got that ending.  We don't know what other possible outcomes are yet, do we?

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hhh89 wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Guys, I'm a bit late to the party but I want to clarify: does Anders destroy the Chantry only if he's a 'friend')?


It seems that he always destroy the Chantry.


Nothing can be done to prevent that?

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I wanted to like Anders, I really did. The mages vs chantry conflict was a very grey one, and i didn't know which side to pick. But blowing up a chantry full of innocent people? I'm sorry but that is terrorism and i can't support it. No cause, no matter how righteous, justifies terrorism and killing of innocent people, not even oppressed mages.

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fiddlesticks *lick*

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LilyasAvalon

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I can't decide... T_T

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Sonork wrote...

I wanted to like Anders, I really did. The mages vs chantry conflict was a very grey one, and i didn't know which side to pick. But blowing up a chantry full of innocent people? I'm sorry but that is terrorism and i can't support it. No cause, no matter how righteous, justifies terrorism and killing of innocent people, not even oppressed mages.


Thankfull the game gives the player the option to choose what to do with him.

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Sonork wrote...

I wanted to like Anders, I really did. The mages vs chantry conflict was a very grey one, and i didn't know which side to pick. But blowing up a chantry full of innocent people? I'm sorry but that is terrorism and i can't support it. No cause, no matter how righteous, justifies terrorism and killing of innocent people, not even oppressed mages.


What if Anders dies in Awakenings and you import that save?  This is what I want to find out!

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In a live stream I saw last night, there was a mage that was begging to not be made a tranquil. She said that she'd do anything. She was told that she'd do anything he wanted once she was one, anyway.

Uh. Take that how you will.

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andb52 wrote...

Sonork wrote...

I wanted to like Anders, I really did. The mages vs chantry conflict was a very grey one, and i didn't know which side to pick. But blowing up a chantry full of innocent people? I'm sorry but that is terrorism and i can't support it. No cause, no matter how righteous, justifies terrorism and killing of innocent people, not even oppressed mages.


What if Anders dies in Awakenings and you import that save?  This is what I want to find out!

He is still in Dragon Age 2.

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andb52 wrote...

Sonork wrote...

I wanted to like Anders, I really did. The mages vs chantry conflict was a very grey one, and i didn't know which side to pick. But blowing up a chantry full of innocent people? I'm sorry but that is terrorism and i can't support it. No cause, no matter how righteous, justifies terrorism and killing of innocent people, not even oppressed mages.


What if Anders dies in Awakenings and you import that save?  This is what I want to find out!

He's alive even in this case.

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dreamextractor wrote...

In a live stream I saw last night, there was a mage that was begging to not be made a tranquil. She said that she'd do anything. She was told that she'd do anything he wanted once she was one, anyway.

Uh. Take that how you will.


It was a side quest?

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andb52 wrote...

Sonork wrote...

I wanted to like Anders, I really did. The mages vs chantry conflict was a very grey one, and i didn't know which side to pick. But blowing up a chantry full of innocent people? I'm sorry but that is terrorism and i can't support it. No cause, no matter how righteous, justifies terrorism and killing of innocent people, not even oppressed mages.


What if Anders dies in Awakenings and you import that save?  This is what I want to find out!

It's already been shown by Wynne that people can 'die' and come back to life if they are possessed by a spirit or demon. So, this explains how he brought back, regardless.

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And I'd ask once again - is there anything that can be done to prevent that from what we know?

'Cos i find it really strange if NOTHING can affect this outcome.

Modifié par Big stupid jellyfish, 07 mars 2011 - 12:40 .


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Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

And I'd ask once again - is there anything that can be done to prevent that from what we know?

'Cos i find it really strange if NOTHING can affect this outcome.


The destruction of the Chantry triggers the conflitc between mages and templars. It seems unavoidable.

#6145
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Hai, double post.

Modifié par Big stupid jellyfish, 07 mars 2011 - 12:43 .


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LilyasAvalon

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Okay, I think I have figured out how the joining of Anders and Justice made even worse of the two characters.

Justice fuses with Anders, he is corrupted by the pain, frustration and anger Anders has held towards the circle and thus becomes Venegence. Venegence thens continues to corrupt Anders from within, making his feelings towards the Circle and the Templars worse which in turn, continues to feed Venegence's corruption.... which eventually leads to the chantry going KA-BOOM!

It's like a give and take thing. ._.

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Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

And I'd ask once again - is there anything that can be done to prevent that from what we know?

'Cos i find it really strange if NOTHING can affect this outcome.


No.  It is inevitable.

And personally?  I'm glad.

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Just saw the vid and lol yea someone needs to make a GODDAMMIT ANDERS sig lol

In the end I think the ends justify the means, and so evil Lady Mage Hawke will love Anders for it! =D

I think Anders is even better then Guy Fawkes in this case

Modifié par Alanosborn1991, 07 mars 2011 - 12:45 .


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Well...just out of curiosity, if you cannot kill Anders in your savegame import and prevent him from coming, what if you kill Leliana in DAO? Does she come back to life for DA2, also?

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Fenris getting angry and pinning Lady Hawke against the wall, OMG YES! Thank you Bioware.