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Rinji the Bearded

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gethslayer7 wrote...

i just watched the ending on you tube what was cassandras and leianas original plan and what is the symbol on the book


We don't know what their plan is, and that symbol on the book is the symbols of the Seekers... which closely resembles the symbol of the Maker I think.

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Cool, i get to kill carver.

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RinjiRenee wrote...

gethslayer7 wrote...

i just watched the ending on you tube what was cassandras and leianas original plan and what is the symbol on the book


We don't know what their plan is, and that symbol on the book is the symbols of the Seekers... which closely resembles the symbol of the Maker I think.

do you think flemeth has anything to od with the dissaperance

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So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?

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Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


Fenris kills his sister I think, because she sides with his old slave master.<_<

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Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


I'm not sure about the Dalish clan having to be killed, but Izzy's betrayal can be somewhat redeemed if not avoided, and Anders is completely unavoidable.

Fenris does kill his sister, and I'm sure down some path, Sebastian ... not sure.  We'll have to see.

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Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


omg, evil gamers wet dream. i'm interested in da2 again.

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


I'm not sure about the Dalish clan having to be killed, but Izzy's betrayal can be somewhat redeemed if not avoided, and Anders is completely unavoidable.


So if you have max friendship/rivalry you can convince her to give relic to Qun?

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Even after all the horrible spoilers about Carver, I still plan on having a very epic bromance with him, like at the beginning of the demo where we fight together.

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Erani wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


I'm not sure about the Dalish clan having to be killed, but Izzy's betrayal can be somewhat redeemed if not avoided, and Anders is completely unavoidable.


So if you have max friendship/rivalry you can convince her to give relic to Qun?


I think the guy with the guide said 50+ rival/friendship.

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Erani wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


More like 50% rivalry or 50% friendship... you'll be able to pull that off...or if you choose to fight them anyway n let her keep the book... you need Fenris in your party to force a 1 on 1 duel with the arishok.

I'm not sure about the Dalish clan having to be killed, but Izzy's betrayal can be somewhat redeemed if not avoided, and Anders is completely unavoidable.


So if you have max friendship/rivalry you can convince her to give relic to Qun?

 
:ph34r:ed

*Still thinks he wants to smack carver upside the head for his behavior( especially given that scen in the dev diary) but may...and stresses the word MAY be willing to let him off, considering the situation he's been put in though he ough to understand n be used to things like being chased around by Templars by now...*

Modifié par raziel3080, 07 mars 2011 - 06:31 .


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^ I see, 50+ f/r then. Thank you.

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Sharn wrote...

Even after all the horrible spoilers about Carver, I still plan on having a very epic bromance with him, like at the beginning of the demo where we fight together.


Me too, Sharn, me too.

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So I have to ask: in the video uploaded by klace, was Anders at max friendship or max rivalry?

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Any more information on Leandra? A friend of mine just told me that she dies regardless of what side quest you did. (After some Qunari related question with the Vicount) I hope he's wrong...

Modifié par Naitaka, 07 mars 2011 - 06:42 .


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SurelyForth wrote...

So I have to ask: in the video uploaded by klace, was Anders at max friendship or max rivalry?


Near max rivalry, but not full I believe.

@Naitaka- Someone came in the thread and said they left their sibling home during the Deep Roads, and the mom didn't die. Klace took siblings both times, so that might have something to do with it. If you leave them, however, they will either join the Circle or become a Templar (though there are quests to still get them back for the boss fight, apparently)

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Naitaka wrote...

Any more information on Leandra? A friend of mine just told me that she dies regardless of what side quest you did. (After some Qunari related question with the Vicount) I hope he's wrong...


Someone said that s/he left Carver at home with Leandra for the Deep Roads expedition and that Leandra was alive when s/he returned.

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SurelyForth wrote...

So I have to ask: in the video uploaded by klace, was Anders at max friendship or max rivalry?


We have no idea...though it is assumed he was friendly n had been helping Anders through out do that particular quest...although I susppose you could do that from that rivalry standpoint as welll...since this scene is like the landsmeet where it is guranteed to happen no matter how much you want to avoid it...

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arsonic wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

So I have to ask: in the video uploaded by klace, was Anders at max friendship or max rivalry?


Near max rivalry, but not full I believe.

@Naitaka- Someone came in the thread and said they left their sibling home during the Deep Roads, and the mom didn't die. Klace took siblings both times, so that might have something to do with it. If you leave them, however, they will either join the Circle or become a Templar (though there are quests to still get them back for the boss fight, apparently)


Yah but from what my friend said he's waaay past the deep road already. He went past two time jumps at least from what he told me. Basically, I was asking him if I can save Leandra or not if I do the murder related quests and he said he did them but she died anyway after a main quest where you help the Vicount with the Qunari problem.

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Chignon wrote...

Naitaka wrote...

Any more information on Leandra? A friend of mine just told me that she dies regardless of what side quest you did. (After some Qunari related question with the Vicount) I hope he's wrong...


Someone said that s/he left Carver at home with Leandra for the Deep Roads expedition and that Leandra was alive when s/he returned.


I think Klace mentioned in one of his playthroughs he tried to go n save her as soon as the quest popped up but he was still unable to( he did this as a female mage)...and then ran into Carver later on, where they discussed what happened...apparently if you leave your sibling behind they get shipped off to the templars or circle right away before that even takes place, I believe. I could be wrong as I said yesturday( which was at around 6pm EST)...the servers started acting screwy right after I read that on here.

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Naitaka wrote...

arsonic wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

So I have to ask: in the video uploaded by klace, was Anders at max friendship or max rivalry?


Near max rivalry, but not full I believe.

@Naitaka- Someone came in the thread and said they left their sibling home during the Deep Roads, and the mom didn't die. Klace took siblings both times, so that might have something to do with it. If you leave them, however, they will either join the Circle or become a Templar (though there are quests to still get them back for the boss fight, apparently)


Yah but from what my friend said he's waaay past the deep road already. He went past two time jumps at least from what he told me. Basically, I was asking him if I can save Leandra or not if I do the murder related quests and he said he did them but she died anyway after a main quest where you help the Vicount with the Qunari problem.


I believe Leandra dies regardless of what happens to your siblings and that she doesnt die while Hawke is in the Deep Roads. She dies later on.

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raziel3080 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Naitaka wrote...

Any more information on Leandra? A friend of mine just told me that she dies regardless of what side quest you did. (After some Qunari related question with the Vicount) I hope he's wrong...


Someone said that s/he left Carver at home with Leandra for the Deep Roads expedition and that Leandra was alive when s/he returned.


I think Klace mentioned in one of his playthroughs he tried to go n save her as soon as the quest popped up but he was still unable to( he did this as a female mage)...and then ran into Carver later on, where they discussed what happened...apparently if you leave your sibling behind they get shipped off to the templars or circle right away before that even takes place, I believe. I could be wrong as I said yesturday( which was at around 6pm EST)...the servers started acting screwy right after I read that on here.


Yeah, but in the last playthrough Klace took Carver into the DR to see if he could be made a Grey Warden by Anders (which did work, I guess). You could still get the conversation if you left the sibling behind and didn't do the quest ASAP, maybe. Maybe it's a combination of things.

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

So we know Merill causes the death of an entire Dalish clan, Isabella potentially causes war with the Qun and Anders blows up the Chantry...

anyone wanna take a stab at what atrocities Fenris and Sebastian commit?


I'm not sure about the Dalish clan having to be killed, but Izzy's betrayal can be somewhat redeemed if not avoided, and Anders is completely unavoidable.

Fenris does kill his sister, and I'm sure down some path, Sebastian ... not sure.  We'll have to see.


Well, we know Sebastian is being dogged by a desire demon, AND he's out for revenge (though not to the extent Anders is). Plenty of nasty things that could happen.

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arsonic wrote...

raziel3080 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Naitaka wrote...

Any more information on Leandra? A friend of mine just told me that she dies regardless of what side quest you did. (After some Qunari related question with the Vicount) I hope he's wrong...


Someone said that s/he left Carver at home with Leandra for the Deep Roads expedition and that Leandra was alive when s/he returned.


I think Klace mentioned in one of his playthroughs he tried to go n save her as soon as the quest popped up but he was still unable to( he did this as a female mage)...and then ran into Carver later on, where they discussed what happened...apparently if you leave your sibling behind they get shipped off to the templars or circle right away before that even takes place, I believe. I could be wrong as I said yesturday( which was at around 6pm EST)...the servers started acting screwy right after I read that on here.


Yeah, but in the last playthrough Klace took Carver into the DR to see if he could be made a Grey Warden by Anders (which did work, I guess). You could still get the conversation if you left the sibling behind and didn't do the quest ASAP, maybe. Maybe it's a combination of things.


Ahh...well, okay. I'll find out for sure tommorrow when I have the game n the guide in my hands...LOL. :)

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raziel3080 wrote...

arsonic wrote...

raziel3080 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Naitaka wrote...

Any more information on Leandra? A friend of mine just told me that she dies regardless of what side quest you did. (After some Qunari related question with the Vicount) I hope he's wrong...


Someone said that s/he left Carver at home with Leandra for the Deep Roads expedition and that Leandra was alive when s/he returned.


I think Klace mentioned in one of his playthroughs he tried to go n save her as soon as the quest popped up but he was still unable to( he did this as a female mage)...and then ran into Carver later on, where they discussed what happened...apparently if you leave your sibling behind they get shipped off to the templars or circle right away before that even takes place, I believe. I could be wrong as I said yesturday( which was at around 6pm EST)...the servers started acting screwy right after I read that on here.


Yeah, but in the last playthrough Klace took Carver into the DR to see if he could be made a Grey Warden by Anders (which did work, I guess). You could still get the conversation if you left the sibling behind and didn't do the quest ASAP, maybe. Maybe it's a combination of things.


Ahh...well, okay. I'll find out for sure tommorrow when I have the game n the guide in my hands...LOL. :)


Definitely let us know. I do not want my mama to die, no matter how snappy she might be at me in the beginning.