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#1001
tankgirly

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Possibly one of the end option, like Origin.

I can't locate the commercial on YT. Anyone?

*does not live in the State.*

You know, it will actually be nice if the dev release the commercial for non US residences.

Modifié par tankgirly, 01 mars 2011 - 08:09 .


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I think that the Sundermount quest happens year 2 or 3, so the blight is probably over.

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namedforthemoon wrote...

I wonder how loyal he (Zevran) really is to the Warden if in a relationship with him/her after the events of DAO... Like if your Warden decided to be in a relationship with him and stay with him... I doubt that Zevvie can resist the sexual pull of Lady Hawke. He'd be all, "Hmm, this Sundermount is cold, and my Warden is so far away! One last fling, no?"

Which is partially why I'm curious as to the timing of his showing up... If I remember correctly, Zevran showed up to assassinate the Warden after Lothering was destroyed (after a total of one treaty was fulfilled or Redcliffe was saved from Connor), and after 2 treaties were fulfilled, or 1 treaty and Redcliffe being saved. Where does that put Zevran in the timing of events for Hawke and what is happening in Fereldan?


It is my understanding that the vast majority of the game takes place Post-Blight, but to heck if I can remember where I heard that...meh, it's getting late. :pinched:

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@VioletTheirin, yes, I heard about that, too.

I think I saw a clip on YT earlier today saying while the Hawk was in Kirkwall, he /she heard the Blight was finished. The clip was extracted from the demo.

Now I can't find the clip. It is possibly been removed.

Found it.

Spoiler: Hawk heard about the Blight was finished while in Kirkwall

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tankgirly wrote...

@VioletTheirin, yes, I heard about that, too.

I think I saw a clip on YT earlier today saying while the Hawk was in Kirkwall, he /she heard the Blight was finished. The clip was extracted from the demo.

Now I can't find the clip. It is possibly been removed.

Found it.

Spoiler: Hawk heard about the Blight was finished while in Kirkwall



Thank you!  I was driving myself crazy (or craziER anyhow) trying to figure out where I heard/read that.  :P

#1006
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I do not understand what Zevran doing in dalish camp and why he is not in Kirkwall? He told on numerous occasions that he is a city elf himself and do not appreciate dalish life style.

The only reason I see is that after he finish his crow business and become a master he is trying to find information about his mother and thus travel from one dalish clan to another.
Strange idea , I know.-_-

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An off-screen reference, or even a non-speaking appearance of our Warden's seems possible considering how many of the love interest's appear in the game. The most we can hope for realistically is a 'oh he's off in the deep roads at the moment, but something came up I need help with'... but it's something. Considering how much love Origins got for it's epilogue I doubt Bioware would retcon it totally.

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i heard theres a blood mage video.....where please?

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themageguy wrote...

i heard theres a blood mage video.....where please?


I had to really go digging to find this:

Video of random blood mage from DA2

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Rakia_Time wrote...

 Poor Leandra, she's gonna kill herself when she finds out Hawke is screwing a male elf :lol::lol:


Or a demonic mage.:whistle:

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Ryzaki wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

I wonder how loyal he (Zevran) really is to the Warden if in a relationship with him/her after the events of DAO... Like if your Warden decided to be in a relationship with him and stay with him... I doubt that Zevvie can resist the sexual pull of Lady Hawke. He'd be all, "Hmm, this Sundermount is cold, and my Warden is so far away! One last fling, no?"

Which is partially why I'm curious as to the timing of his showing up... If I remember correctly, Zevran showed up to assassinate the Warden after Lothering was destroyed (after a total of one treaty was fulfilled or Redcliffe was saved from Connor), and after 2 treaties were fulfilled, or 1 treaty and Redcliffe being saved. Where does that put Zevran in the timing of events for Hawke and what is happening in Fereldan?


...No. 

Zevran himself says he's not the type to cheat. He wouldn't do something like that. No matter how "irrestible" Lady Hawke was. 


Is there anyone who goes into a relationship admitting, "Yeah, I may cheat on you..."? C'mon. 

He also attempted to assassinate you, and upon failure, immediately betrayed the Antivan Crows (the order he has been a part of his entire life) and their employer, so you can't speak for his fidelity. 

Furthermore, Zevran is a sexual deviant, and when speaking to him, I often had flashbacks to when I used to spray my dog for humping legs.

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hmmm if carver becomes a templar.....he really didnt like my magic or beths or malcolms. Jealous git.

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If Carver becomes a templar then I'm gonna have to pull a Fredo after Mama Hawke passes away!

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The Big Nothing wrote...
Is there anyone who goes into a relationship admitting, "Yeah, I may cheat on you..."? C'mon. 

He also attempted to assassinate you, and upon failure, immediately betrayed the Antivan Crows (the order he has been a part of his entire life) and their employer, so you can't speak for his fidelity. 

Furthermore, Zevran is a sexual deviant, and when speaking to him, I often had flashbacks to when I used to spray my dog for humping legs.


Oh yes that's totally why he refuses to do exactly that when you ask. Nope. He's such a nasty deviant that he can't resist. <_< 

Are you serious? The guy is loyal when you earn that loyalty. Yeah he's a bare faced liar if you don't earn his trust but once you do he's yours. 

*gags* I hate the guy and I'm defending him. Ugh. 

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Ryzaki wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...
Is there anyone who goes into a relationship admitting, "Yeah, I may cheat on you..."? C'mon. 

He also attempted to assassinate you, and upon failure, immediately betrayed the Antivan Crows (the order he has been a part of his entire life) and their employer, so you can't speak for his fidelity. 

Furthermore, Zevran is a sexual deviant, and when speaking to him, I often had flashbacks to when I used to spray my dog for humping legs.


Oh yes that's totally why he refuses to do exactly that when you ask. Nope. He's such a nasty deviant that he can't resist. <_< 

Are you serious? The guy is loyal when you earn that loyalty. Yeah he's a bare faced liar if you don't earn his trust but once you do he's yours. 

*gags* I hate the guy and I'm defending him. Ugh. 

Great job summing up the rivalry system in Dragon Age 2.

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Ryzaki wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

I wonder how loyal he (Zevran) really is to the Warden if in a relationship with him/her after the events of DAO... Like if your Warden decided to be in a relationship with him and stay with him... I doubt that Zevvie can resist the sexual pull of Lady Hawke. He'd be all, "Hmm, this Sundermount is cold, and my Warden is so far away! One last fling, no?


...No. 

Zevran himself says he's not the type to cheat. He wouldn't do something like that. No matter how "irrestible" Lady Hawke was. 



Plus if Zev loves the Warden and the Warden does the US, he never takes another lover (unless that whole "epilogues are rumors" thing renders that epilogue as without merit).

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UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...
Is there anyone who goes into a relationship admitting, "Yeah, I may cheat on you..."? C'mon. 

He also attempted to assassinate you, and upon failure, immediately betrayed the Antivan Crows (the order he has been a part of his entire life) and their employer, so you can't speak for his fidelity. 

Furthermore, Zevran is a sexual deviant, and when speaking to him, I often had flashbacks to when I used to spray my dog for humping legs.


Oh yes that's totally why he refuses to do exactly that when you ask. Nope. He's such a nasty deviant that he can't resist. <_< 

Are you serious? The guy is loyal when you earn that loyalty. Yeah he's a bare faced liar if you don't earn his trust but once you do he's yours. 

*gags* I hate the guy and I'm defending him. Ugh. 

Great job summing up the rivalry system in Dragon Age 2.

*ba dum tish*

#1018
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Tamyn wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

I wonder how loyal he (Zevran) really is to the Warden if in a relationship with him/her after the events of DAO... Like if your Warden decided to be in a relationship with him and stay with him... I doubt that Zevvie can resist the sexual pull of Lady Hawke. He'd be all, "Hmm, this Sundermount is cold, and my Warden is so far away! One last fling, no?


...No. 

Zevran himself says he's not the type to cheat. He wouldn't do something like that. No matter how "irrestible" Lady Hawke was. 



Plus if Zev loves the Warden and the Warden does the US, he never takes another lover (unless that whole "epilogues are rumors" thing renders that epilogue as without merit).


Even if they did retcon Anders a bit -- and to be honest, Anders currently is terrifying, especially when Vengeance takes over -- I don't think they'd retcon a HUGE character development. 

Death is a character development, admittedly, or just an 'end button'. Whichever you would think. Still, pretty sure old Zev wouldn't cheat, or take another lover. This doesn't apply to flings on the 'take another lover' end. It implies he still takes men and women into bed, but never falls in love again; something like being purely for pleasure, maybe? Other than that, yeah, he wouldn't cheat and I don't see Bioware cheapening/backing out too much on existing character development [aside from death]. 

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Saslic wrote...

UndercoverDoctor wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...
Is there anyone who goes into a relationship admitting, "Yeah, I may cheat on you..."? C'mon. 

He also attempted to assassinate you, and upon failure, immediately betrayed the Antivan Crows (the order he has been a part of his entire life) and their employer, so you can't speak for his fidelity. 

Furthermore, Zevran is a sexual deviant, and when speaking to him, I often had flashbacks to when I used to spray my dog for humping legs.


Oh yes that's totally why he refuses to do exactly that when you ask. Nope. He's such a nasty deviant that he can't resist. <_< 

Are you serious? The guy is loyal when you earn that loyalty. Yeah he's a bare faced liar if you don't earn his trust but once you do he's yours. 

*gags* I hate the guy and I'm defending him. Ugh. 

Great job summing up the rivalry system in Dragon Age 2.

*ba dum tish*

I thought it was quite funny.

#1020
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Leandra never seems happy with Hawke, regardless of what Hawke does.

#1021
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Gah, I am so weak. No willpower at all :D
Anyway I just wanted to ask, are there any mentions of our wardens? Or even better a conversation with Marethari?

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Morroian wrote...

It occurs to me that the romance flags may indicate all 4 of the LIs are bi.


What? Why? What makes you think that?

#1023
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hey where did we get to see footage of anders/vengeance?

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Lolrain wrote...

Gah, I am so weak. No willpower at all :D
Anyway I just wanted to ask, are there any mentions of our wardens? Or even better a conversation with Marethari?


At least 2, quite sure there are far more.
The first being the one we see in the demo when Flemeth is talking about the darkspawn taint to Hawke, Aveline and co. in Lothering. 
The second being when Varric recounts the first year in Kirkwall, saying that news of the Hero of Ferelden defeating the Blight reaches Kirkwall.  A few mentions of this one in this thread.

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brain_damage wrote...

Morroian wrote...

It occurs to me that the romance flags may indicate all 4 of the LIs are bi.


What? Why? What makes you think that?


Definitely eager to hear more on this too...