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#1501
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LexXxich wrote...
Have you heard about french animated series Wakfu? Elves there might be quite to your liking.


I had not heard of it, but just googled it. I like the curves, but not so sure about green hair. :blink::D

That's also really nice to see Cullen will return. My mage kinda had a thing for him. ;)

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The term irrational does not correspond to me if the reason is because of religion, reality, society-belief structure, and the fact you can't propagate with the same sex and thus it is unnatural.

I then strongly urge you to actually read before you post. Also; let's not take this can of worms any further in this thread. If you feel strongly about it, you can PM me.

Moving on.

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Another returnee by the looks of it:

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I forgot; what are Cullen's possible epilogues in Origins?
There's one where he eventually goes nuts and kills a couple of mages before he himself is killed.


Yeah, he can also become Knight-Commander and replace Greagoir, if I'm remembering correctly.

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Because the writers DON'T AGREE WITH IT, does not have anything to do with whether they are or not.

If they've falsely presented themselves then fine, but if they haven't that's fine too.

Again, do not post again.

The writers don't agree with it? They have never presented themselves with such an opinion at any time.

Even Gaider himself said he was open to making all LI's in a Bioware game bi.

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madsabroo wrote...

Yeah, he can also become Knight-Commander and replace Greagoir, if I'm remembering correctly.


Oh, really? :devil: *rubs hands together gleefully*

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Bekkael wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

Yeah, he can also become Knight-Commander and replace Greagoir, if I'm remembering correctly.


Oh, really? :devil: *rubs hands together gleefully*


Someone should verify that - I never finished a mage play through, but my friend said this was in her epilogue.

Edit: Ah yes, from the Wiki:

"If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had."

Modifié par madsabroo, 02 mars 2011 - 10:47 .


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Cullent's epilogue:

Dragon Age Wiki...

Cullen has little involvement in the Epilogue unless the Warden is a mage or the Warden sided with him during the outbreak of Abominations in the Circle Tower:

* If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had.
* If the Warden was of Mage Origin and did not side with Cullen, and gives the Tower autonomy, he endures festering mental scars from his experience in the Tower. This leads to an eventual mental breakdown during which he kills a number of Mage Apprentices before fleeing.


Oh, that explains why Greg Ellis' name still on the credit.

He did said he did the recording on Anders in DA II, but TGP mentioned BW decided to head for different direction later on so they used different VA.

Now I almost forgot, dev heavily hinted spoilers on that..

Modifié par tankgirly, 02 mars 2011 - 10:50 .


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tankgirly wrote...

Cullent's epilogue:

Dragon Age Wiki...

Cullen has little involvement in the Epilogue unless the Warden is a mage or the Warden sided with him during the outbreak of Abominations in the Circle Tower:

* If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had.
* If the Warden was of Mage Origin and did not side with Cullen, and gives the Tower autonomy, he endures festering mental scars from his experience in the Tower. This leads to an eventual mental breakdown during which he kills a number of Mage Apprentices before fleeing.


Oh, that explains why Greg Ellis' name still on the credit.

He did said he did the recording on Anders in DA II, but TGP mentioned BW decided to head for different direction later on so they used different VA.

Now I almost forgot, dev heavily hinted spoilers on that..


That was my thinking, too.  They realized a confrontation between Anders and Cullen would mean the same guy talking to himself.  He didn't use vastly different voices for the two characters, so I could see why they might feel the need to switch things around.

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madsabroo wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Cullent's epilogue:

Dragon Age Wiki...

Cullen has little involvement in the Epilogue unless the Warden is a mage or the Warden sided with him during the outbreak of Abominations in the Circle Tower:

* If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had.
* If the Warden was of Mage Origin and did not side with Cullen, and gives the Tower autonomy, he endures festering mental scars from his experience in the Tower. This leads to an eventual mental breakdown during which he kills a number of Mage Apprentices before fleeing.


Oh, that explains why Greg Ellis' name still on the credit.

He did said he did the recording on Anders in DA II, but TGP mentioned BW decided to head for different direction later on so they used different VA.

Now I almost forgot, dev heavily hinted spoilers on that..


That was my thinking, too.  They realized a confrontation between Anders and Cullen would mean the same guy talking to himself.  He didn't use vastly different voices for the two characters, so I could see why they might feel the need to switch things around.


This had been a theory of mine since Cullen appeared on the list of head morphs.  I feel slightly justified now, yay. :wizard:

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RinjiRenee wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Cullent's epilogue:

Dragon Age Wiki...

Cullen has little involvement in the Epilogue unless the Warden is a mage or the Warden sided with him during the outbreak of Abominations in the Circle Tower:

* If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had.
* If the Warden was of Mage Origin and did not side with Cullen, and gives the Tower autonomy, he endures festering mental scars from his experience in the Tower. This leads to an eventual mental breakdown during which he kills a number of Mage Apprentices before fleeing.


Oh, that explains why Greg Ellis' name still on the credit.

He did said he did the recording on Anders in DA II, but TGP mentioned BW decided to head for different direction later on so they used different VA.

Now I almost forgot, dev heavily hinted spoilers on that..


That was my thinking, too.  They realized a confrontation between Anders and Cullen would mean the same guy talking to himself.  He didn't use vastly different voices for the two characters, so I could see why they might feel the need to switch things around.


This had been a theory of mine since Cullen appeared on the list of head morphs.  I feel slightly justified now, yay. :wizard:


Which page is that list on?  I must have missed it.  :crying:

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madsabroo wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Cullent's epilogue:

Dragon Age Wiki...

Cullen has little involvement in the Epilogue unless the Warden is a mage or the Warden sided with him during the outbreak of Abominations in the Circle Tower:

* If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had.
* If the Warden was of Mage Origin and did not side with Cullen, and gives the Tower autonomy, he endures festering mental scars from his experience in the Tower. This leads to an eventual mental breakdown during which he kills a number of Mage Apprentices before fleeing.


Oh, that explains why Greg Ellis' name still on the credit.

He did said he did the recording on Anders in DA II, but TGP mentioned BW decided to head for different direction later on so they used different VA.

Now I almost forgot, dev heavily hinted spoilers on that..


That was my thinking, too.  They realized a confrontation between Anders and Cullen would mean the same guy talking to himself.  He didn't use vastly different voices for the two characters, so I could see why they might feel the need to switch things around.


This had been a theory of mine since Cullen appeared on the list of head morphs.  I feel slightly justified now, yay. :wizard:


Which page is that list on?  I must have missed it.  :crying:


Oh gosh, it was an older thread and I can't be arsed to find it right now because it's 5 PM and work is over!  Sorry!!!! 

*zoom*

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RinjiRenee wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Cullent's epilogue:

Dragon Age Wiki...

Cullen has little involvement in the Epilogue unless the Warden is a mage or the Warden sided with him during the outbreak of Abominations in the Circle Tower:

* If the Warden sided with Cullen, or was of Mage Origin and did not grant the Tower autonomy, then Cullen will eventually become Knight-Commander of the Circle Tower after Greagoir retires, watching over the Magi with a much more strict and cruel regime than even Greagoir had.
* If the Warden was of Mage Origin and did not side with Cullen, and gives the Tower autonomy, he endures festering mental scars from his experience in the Tower. This leads to an eventual mental breakdown during which he kills a number of Mage Apprentices before fleeing.


Oh, that explains why Greg Ellis' name still on the credit.

He did said he did the recording on Anders in DA II, but TGP mentioned BW decided to head for different direction later on so they used different VA.

Now I almost forgot, dev heavily hinted spoilers on that..


That was my thinking, too.  They realized a confrontation between Anders and Cullen would mean the same guy talking to himself.  He didn't use vastly different voices for the two characters, so I could see why they might feel the need to switch things around.


This had been a theory of mine since Cullen appeared on the list of head morphs.  I feel slightly justified now, yay. :wizard:


Which page is that list on?  I must have missed it.  :crying:


Oh gosh, it was an older thread and I can't be arsed to find it right now because it's 5 PM and work is over!  Sorry!!!! 

*zoom*


No problem. :D  I'll poke around and see if I can't find it myself.

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madsabroo wrote...

That was my thinking, too.  They realized a confrontation between Anders and Cullen would mean the same guy talking to himself.  He didn't use vastly different voices for the two characters, so I could see why they might feel the need to switch things around.

But why not change Cullen's VA? Anders is much bigger role.

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LexXxich wrote...
But why not change Cullen's VA? Anders is much bigger role.

 I dunno; easier justification for that change with the new and improved Justice squating in Anders' head?

Modifié par Raygereio, 02 mars 2011 - 11:13 .


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Can anyone find in the demo a cutscene of Merrill so we can hear her voice?

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Ahem. These spoilers are most interesting.

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In the mention of Alix Wilton Regan, who voiced Mhairi... Didn't she also voice Ser Cauthrien?

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Elton John is dead wrote...

Ahem. These spoilers are most interesting.


Indeed. It passes the time.

Yesterday when I went to pay for my SE pre-order, my friendly, neighborhood EB Games employee informed me that I could pick it up @ midnite on the 8th. I didn't think I would have the option, so I am very happy. :D

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Juicy stuff, love it!

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namedforthemoon wrote...

In the mention of Alix Wilton Regan, who voiced Mhairi... Didn't she also voice Ser Cauthrien?


Yes.

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In the mention of Alix Wilton Regan, who voiced Mhairi... Didn't she also voice Ser Cauthrien?


Yeah, she did (and a bunch of lesser characters like Ser Tamra in DA:A, the brothel owner in DA:O etc).

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is there a screenie of Hawkes glowing eyes?

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Aesieru wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

I know they're not all bi-sexual because the writers aren't like that.

I'd say that Merrill isn't, Fenris is, Bethany isn't, Carver isn't, Sebastian isn't, Aveline isn't, Isabela is (but I doubt she'd want that to be a full relationship), Varric isn't, Anders isn't.

How would you know what the writers would and wouldn't want?

Gaider, in fact, has shown openess to such an approach for romances.


they had to spin their responce to the "who is bi?" question in a way that wouldnt upset either parties (homophobes and non-homophobes/awesomer people)


Dude, I can get naked with guys, I am not a homophobe.

The issue is that I don't agree with that type of relationship, and therefore I do not care for it, that doesn't make me homophobic.

I hate the misuse of terms.



thats not what i ment.....

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RinjiRenee wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

I like picturing the devs reading these speculations in a dark, dark office lit only by the glow of monitors, cackling over a tumbler of brandy as they watch us flail and ponder.


Or like this.
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i can understand how they feel, and boy do they probably enjoy the bajesus out of it, but also pay attention to see what the fans like.


double post XP

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Ericander77 wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

madsabroo wrote...

I like picturing the devs reading these speculations in a dark, dark office lit only by the glow of monitors, cackling over a tumbler of brandy as they watch us flail and ponder.


Or like this.
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i can understand how they feel, and boy do they probably enjoy the bajesus out of it, but also pay attention to see what the fans like.


double post XP


Well, I hope the latter part has some merit to it. 

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Okay there are 60+ pages of information, however is there a list of choices that carry over from Dragon Age O/A and all the DLC?