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[tankgirly]

There are still excitements, Vilnii.

[Lilaris]

Heh, I'm probably more excited than I was before.

[Ryzaki]

you guys posting all these spoilers. Thank you all.

[Tranceptor]

vilnii wrote...

What have you people done to yourselves?

How will you feel come March 8 when the game comes out and you can't muster any excitement?

I'll let you know after my Hawke has had a couple prostitutes and a nug.

[jadefishes]

vilnii wrote...

What have you people done to yourselves?

How will you feel come March 8 when the game comes out and you can't muster any excitement?

Dude, wake up, we are not you. I grow more and more excited the more spoilers I see. I read spoilers about movies before I see them, I flip to the back of the book when I'm reading. I love my spoilers.

Now shoo and don't spoil yourself and ruin your enjoyment of the game. Mine is robust.

[raziel3080]

jadefishes wrote...

vilnii wrote...

What have you people done to yourselves?

How will you feel come March 8 when the game comes out and you can't muster any excitement?

Dude, wake up, we are not you. I grow more and more excited the more spoilers I see. I read spoilers about movies before I see them, I flip to the back of the book when I'm reading. I love my spoilers.

Now shoo and don't spoil yourself and ruin your enjoyment of the game. Mine is robust.

QFT!

[Aesieru]

The majority of gamers are so rude... sigh.

[namedforthemoon]

Have any of you cracked the codex entries, yet? I read one about Marian as a mage and one about Bethany after Bethany dies. They're really interesting and provide a lot of backstory for the family. I was getting to the one about Carver but the demo crashed during the second ogre fight.

[Klace]

This thread spoiled NOTHING for me. I already expected it to begin with.
My real excitement is in the COMPANIONS. You can't access any of their plots in the demo though.
So I'm going in completely fresh in that area.

[Chagrinned Goat]

tankgirly wrote...
Interesting notion there. Hope TGP able to explain this: if a mage is being possessed by a spirit, is he still an abomination?

There was a conversation with Wynne like that. Her asking ambiguous questions about what makes an abomination an abomination. One of the responses was, "If one retains one's humanity, one is not an abomination." I think.

vilnii wrote...
What have you people done to yourselves?

How will you feel come March 8 when the game comes out and you can't muster any excitement?

You know, somehow I doubt most people in this thread feel they are ruining the game for themselves. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in this thread. Personally, I like to know most of the plot beforehand. As important as story is, it's secondary to execution. Just knowing the plot doesn't really mean anything to me, but playing the game and seeing how well it's done? That's where the impact lies, in my opinion.

It's not like it matters that much, ignoring my own reasons. Every single plot device and twist that you'll find in the game have been done before ad nauseum. And, to make sure this post reaches it's quota for gratuitous Latin, nihil novi sub sole. It's not like I'll be surprised by anything, anyway, so just let me enjoy the thread, eh?

Modifié par Chagrinned Goat, 03 mars 2011 - 07:07 .

[Nefily]

A little bit off topic but i showed my little sister (who doesnt know much about DA2) the picture i found of zevran in this thread whom she really liked in origins this was her response

"omg what the hell, he looks like a drunk lemur. is he meant to be old??? haha can you still romance him XD ahaha. :C "

[Malja]

Nefily wrote...

A little bit off topic but i showed my little sister (who doesnt know much about DA2) the picture i found of zevran in this thread whom she really liked in origins this was her response

"omg what the hell, he looks like a drunk lemur. is he meant to be old??? haha can you still romance him XD ahaha. :C "

Sounds like an appropriate response. Shock, self-comforting namecalling, then slowly degenerating into flat out WHYYYY.

[jeckaldied]

Given the fact that the Zevran screenshot is clearly in the middle of him talking, I don't see how he looks 'that' much different. Also, I never thought Zev was suppose to be all that young, early thirties is what I always thought of him as.

[fighterchick]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Have any of you cracked the codex entries, yet? I read one about Marian as a mage and one about Bethany after Bethany dies. They're really interesting and provide a lot of backstory for the family. I was getting to the one about Carver but the demo crashed during the second ogre fight.

Carver:

Carver grew up surrounded by magic he couldn't truly understand. He cared deeply for his family, but sometimes felt like the stupidest person in the room. Carver foundered in Lothering, caught between the gifts of his apostate sister, Bethany and the growing skill of his more focused sibling Garrett*.  But even as Carver groused about his lot, he remained dedicated to protecting those he loved. He didn't think twice about sacrificing himself to save his mother during the flight from the darkspawn, and although Carver struggled to find his way in life, there is gratification in knowing his death had a purpose.

Bethany: 

Marian*'s younger sister, Bethany, died during the family's flight from Lothering, leaving Marian and Bethany's twin brother, Carver, as the only surviving children. Like Marian, Bethany was an apostate mage hiding from the Circle since childhood. Protecting Marian and Bethany from the templars became the defining fact of the family's life, forcing them to move frequently and live well below their means in small hamlets like Lothering. Bethany was close to her eldest sibling and idolized and envied the way Marian embraced magic, but she could never give up her resentment of being different and fear for what their future would hold.
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Modifié par fighterchicks, 03 mars 2011 - 07:35 .

[LilyasAvalon]

I like to know the plot and opitions before hand, I never run into something blind.

[namedforthemoon]

Thanks, Fighterchicks!

I think it's interesting how if your Hawke is a mage, he/she stays home in Lothering with Bethany while Carver enlists in the king's army, but if your Hawke is a rogue/warrior, both your Hawke and Carver enlist. It makes a lot more sense when Carver says, "Why are you looking at me/us? I've/We've been running since Ostagar!"

Modifié par namedforthemoon, 03 mars 2011 - 07:40 .

[fighterchick]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Thanks, Fighterchicks!

No problem.  You can actually access this in the demo after the time skip when you're with Isabella, so it was easy.

[Krytheos]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Anders is an abomination, not a blood mage.

He's not an abomination either. 

An abomination is a somewhat vague term as it refers to both the monstrosities the mage can turn into as well as those who retain their normal shape with the demon apparently controlling them like a puppet. Exactly why some victims transform and others, like Uldred and Connor, retain their human forms at least for a time is not clear.

Justice/Vengeance isn't controlling Anders as a puppet in anyway. They share the same body, but Justice/Vengeance isn't controlling it -like- a puppet. The only times Justice ever comes out seems to be when in great need/when Anders is terrifyingly angry. 

Vengeance is still a -spirit.- A more selfish spirit certainly, but still a -spirit.- Anders isn't an abomination. while conversely you can make him a Blood Mage. He even comments on it at one point, I think. 

[fighterchick]

Krytheos wrote...

Vengeance is still a -spirit.- A more selfish spirit certainly, but still a -spirit.- Anders isn't an abomination. while conversely you can make him a Blood Mage. He even comments on it at one point, I think. 

The official reveal for Anders on his character page calls it a demon, not a spirit:

Anders, the light-hearted rebel mage from Dragon Age: Origins, Awakening, has changed. Urged by his friend Justice to fight the Circle of Magi more actively, Anders agreed to become Justice's human host… only to find that his anger at the Circle warped Justice into the demonic spirit of Vengeance. Now Anders must struggle mentally and physically to maintain his control over the demon within... at least long enough to see the Circle of Magi overturned foreve

[Raygereio]

Krytheos wrote...
Vengeance is still a -spirit.- A more selfish spirit certainly, but still a -spirit.. 

Yeah, he's a spirit. In the sense that demons are still spirits.
On a more serious note; I always though the distinction between demons and benevolent spirits was a little vague.
On the one hand we have the definition that a demon is any spirit that's malicious in it's intent and on the other hand the definition that a demon is any spirit that embodies the darker parts of the human psyche.

When we go with the latter definition Vengeance looks like he qualifies as a demon.

[Tamyn]

Poor Carver's "eulogy" is so pathetic it will be hard to ever let him die in the beginning of the game.

Modifié par Tamyn, 03 mars 2011 - 08:53 .

[Sakanade]

Tamyn wrote...

Poor Carver's "eulogy" is so pathetic it will be hard to ever let him die in the beginning of the game.

Was thinking the exact same thing, damn he didn't have it easy in life

Makes me want to roll a mage

[Malja]

Tamyn wrote...

Poor Carver's "eulogy" is so pathetic it will be hard to ever let him die in the beginning of the game.

Ack seriously. Granted he doesn't seem to have such a great life ahead of him from what little we have. Makes it hard to decide.

[Tamyn]

His life might not be great if he's the surviving sibling, but at least he can find a purpose (templars/Grey Wardens) in his life and maybe a little happiness. Even if he ends up dying later.

[tankgirly]

Been playing the demo about 5 times now. Only play as a rogue once. So in my case it always Bethany who died.