ARE THEY OR AREN'T THEY? THE ALL-BI BETTING POOL!
#551
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:32
#552
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:32
#553
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:32
Addai67 wrote...
Why does it matter so much?? Seriously, why? I could see it if you had a particular fondness for one of the characters and were hoping to be able to ship according to taste. But some on the forum seem to regard it as some kind of triumph of pansexualism or something. And this is why people on other gaming forums talk about these games as dating sims.Taleroth wrote...
Let's all form a circle and hold hands. And believe in the power of positive thinking!Tehnazzy wrote...
Somehow I wish to believe everyone is BI. And that all you need is love.
Just nobody touch me.
I'm sure I care what other people on other gaming forums think.
#554
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:33
#555
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:34
#556
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:35
#557
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:35
Taleroth wrote...
On a personal level, I would probably prefer the games if they expended the efforts used to make romances in other areas of the game.
But on a social level, I recognize that many other people value the romance plotlines in the games. I know you use the term dating sims as a perjorative, but they do have their entertainment value to some people. And since I know they've already expended the effort on the dating sim elements, I wish for others to be able to enjoy their particular pursuit in that regard. So, y'know, I care because other people care.
I'm telling you, if you're not careful I'm going to have to set up a group specifically focused on hero worshipping you, k?
/creepy stalker
#558
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:36
#559
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:38
Now that that's done, I'mma outta here.
#560
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:39
#561
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:40
#562
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:40
Tehnazzy wrote...
Good god, I may even retract my denial. I'm starting to think that everyone is BI!
I'm getting so wrapped up in this thread, I'm starting to think everyone is bi. Not just the Love Interests, but everyone. Bethany, Varric, Cassandra, Flemeth, Wesley, Loghain, Harrowmont.... Oh, god, it's escaped the games! Now it's my roommate, my cat, David Gaider... EVERYONE!
#563
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:42
/relurks
#564
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:42
And what if someone doesn't see the world or the characters as you do? Should NPCs be infinitely moldable to the mindset of the player?IndelibleJester wrote...
Pansexuality is a good thing in my opinion.
Making a character straight who could be convincely (note: in character) bisexual, is torturing those who can see it. It's like a baby that can't quite reach it's spoon.
I liked that Origins companions hadn't certain things that not even the godalmighty powerful, irresistable Warden couldn't make them do. And one thing that is true about people is that some are just straight. If the only four people Hawke can get with aren't "just straight", it will be fine by me, it will just seem odd.
#565
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:44
#566
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:44
David Gaider wrote...
I like the opening pic.
I made a wallpaper out of it.
For your computer or your home?
#567
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:48
I don't , either, but since this is a pool of potential customers, BioWare might. Brace yourself.Elsariel wrote...
I'm sure I care what other people on other gaming forums think.
OTOH, if the extreme that some criticize starts becoming reality, that could be a problem. I have faith in the writers, but the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy sounds like a recipe for shallow storytelling to me.
#568
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:48
RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
I like the opening pic.
I made a wallpaper out of it.
For your computer or your home?
Ha! *pictures Ser Gaider's office at BW plastered floor to ceiling with smexy LI wallpaper*
#569
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:49
Addai67 wrote...
And what if someone doesn't see the world or the characters as you do? Should NPCs be infinitely moldable to the mindset of the player?IndelibleJester wrote...
Pansexuality is a good thing in my opinion.
Making a character straight who could be convincely (note: in character) bisexual, is torturing those who can see it. It's like a baby that can't quite reach it's spoon.
I liked that Origins companions hadn't certain things that not even the godalmighty powerful, irresistable Warden couldn't make them do. And one thing that is true about people is that some are just straight. If the only four people Hawke can get with aren't "just straight", it will be fine by me, it will just seem odd.
I am confused by your response. I stated plainly that I like the characters to stay in character. I would love it if more diversity were available, myself. But I also love a fully explored character, as well. I don't understand what your questions have to do with what I said. I think most people agree that characters should be independent of the PC.
#570
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:50
Addai67 wrote...
OTOH, if the extreme that some criticize starts becoming reality, that could be a problem. I have faith in the writers, but the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy sounds like a recipe for shallow storytelling to me.
It could be and it couldn't.
If all they do is turn the "bisexual flag" on for the straight LIs... yeah, that would be terrible. If they have written each character so that they are truly bisexual, then it doesn't have to lead to shallow storytelling.
Modifié par Zjarcal, 28 février 2011 - 05:53 .
#571
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:51
Addai67 wrote...
I don't , either, but since this is a pool of potential customers, BioWare might. Brace yourself.Elsariel wrote...
I'm sure I care what other people on other gaming forums think.
OTOH, if the extreme that some criticize starts becoming reality, that could be a problem. I have faith in the writers, but the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy sounds like a recipe for shallow storytelling to me.
Hawke can already have several different relationships, and can flirt with non-companions. Why on earth do you think that the writers would go out of their way to implement bisexual romances in the worst possible way? They would be dealt with with exactly the same amount of depth and conviction as any other relationship.
(And don't you think you're taking things to the extreme by saying "the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy" --- at what point has anyone advocated that?)
#572
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:51
Your feelings are perfectly normal. I wish more people did it.catabuca wrote...
Taleroth wrote...
On a personal level, I would probably prefer the games if they expended the efforts used to make romances in other areas of the game.
But on a social level, I recognize that many other people value the romance plotlines in the games. I know you use the term dating sims as a perjorative, but they do have their entertainment value to some people. And since I know they've already expended the effort on the dating sim elements, I wish for others to be able to enjoy their particular pursuit in that regard. So, y'know, I care because other people care.
I'm telling you, if you're not careful I'm going to have to set up a group specifically focused on hero worshipping you, k?
/creepy stalker
#573
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:53
catabuca wrote...
Addai67 wrote...
I don't , either, but since this is a pool of potential customers, BioWare might. Brace yourself.Elsariel wrote...
I'm sure I care what other people on other gaming forums think.
OTOH, if the extreme that some criticize starts becoming reality, that could be a problem. I have faith in the writers, but the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy sounds like a recipe for shallow storytelling to me.
Hawke can already have several different relationships, and can flirt with non-companions. Why on earth do you think that the writers would go out of their way to implement bisexual romances in the worst possible way? They would be dealt with with exactly the same amount of depth and conviction as any other relationship.
(And don't you think you're taking things to the extreme by saying "the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy" --- at what point has anyone advocated that?)
*runs up with FIVESOME sign-- ... turns back around and relurks.*
#574
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:55
#575
Posté 28 février 2011 - 05:57
Addai67 wrote...
I don't , either, but since this is a pool of potential customers, BioWare might. Brace yourself.Elsariel wrote...
I'm sure I care what other people on other gaming forums think.
OTOH, if the extreme that some criticize starts becoming reality, that could be a problem. I have faith in the writers, but the push to make anyone and everyone Hawke's **** buddy sounds like a recipe for shallow storytelling to me.
This is my major concern, too. I would hope that they'd prioritize the integrity of the story over the opportunity to satisfy every permeatation of 'ship, and given the amount of times they've mentioned how very costly romances are to produce, it seems like we'd have to lose something. I'd love for all the LIs to be bi, but I'd love even more for all the romances to be deep and distinct depending on who is being romanced and whether my Hawke is male or female.




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