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[Huwmin race]

Hey trolls I got a something to say: WHY DON'T YOU **** OFF AND LEAVE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PLAY THE GAME PLAY THE ****ING GAME I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR WHINES AND MOANS **** OFF TO SOME OTHER FORUM TO WHINE ABOUT IT! Seriously it's a game it's meant to be PLAYED and ENJOYED so what if they removed your favourite move so what if it's too fast for you SO what if it doesn't start in conversation. It doesn't start in conversation for the sake of originality and if that's the way Bioware wants to do it they can do it like that and i trust them to do so and if they fail at it they lose my trust but I have full faith in Bioware to do what they think is best and isn't it a bit too early to make assumptions on a game that hasn't even been released yet. Thats my 2 cents

I'm sorry about the rant above it's just that trolls ****** me off so much

[thatbwoyblu]

Wow just wow I dont know what to say.

[KLUME777]

Siven80 wrote...

Ignoring the whole fantasy world and realism debate which is utterly ridiculous.

The Start of DA2 and the (months old build?) demo is built as a necessary tutorial, i think thats fairly obvious. Something that Origins didnt have, and i think its been mentioned that many people stopped playing the game in the first hour or 2? Hence a linear tutorial to keep those players in the game and show them early on the combat rather than bogging them down in conversations which can wait until they are away from the blight.

For the majority of Origins players we dont need the start area/tutorial and so we judge it as linear etc, but it is needed, just not for us.

Do you honestly believe the skip from the Blightlands to Kirkwall and Isabella happens just like that? again i thought the time skip to that area was again obviously just for the demo. Its already been shown and stated that many other things can be done before you go to isabella and the hanged man.

DA2 more linear than Origins? We dont know, other than some reviews saying so, but honestly Origins was fairly linear unless you were choosing an area to go to, judgements still out on DA2.

Origins was not linear in level design (of coarse a game like Oblivion is true non-linear), there were lots of different paths and big open areas. The demo showed nothing like that, but even more, the German review, which even gave it a score, said most of the game was linear, including Kirkwall. Thats not speculation, thats almost fact.

And since Biowares last game, ME2 was pretty linear (in level design), i dont have high hopes.

[KLUME777]

Threeparts wrote...

I dislike these threads, not because anyone's opinion is wrong or bad, but because they accomplish so little. Unless someone had misconceptions that were corrected, these threads never turn out well. It's always, "this is my opinion, and I like it" versus, "this is my opinion, and I hate it". No one changes their mind, no one suddenly has an epiphany and declares that the other side was right all along. It just makes each faction declare the other simpletons with bad taste. It goes on and on and nothing changes. Bah.

That said, OP, I'm sorry the demo disappointed you. I hope you'll see some gameplay vids after the 8th that get you excited again, or that you find an RPG that you like better soon. We've got plenty of choice this year after all, no?

Im still getting the game day one, i have it pre-ordered, sig edition. I just will be very dissapointed if the demo and german review is anything to show.

[Black-Xero]

I started a new game of Origins to make one final imported playthrough(excluding all the DLC) and I felt the exact opposite.

[Celtic Latino]

Cool story. But Dragon Age 2 is not Dragon Age Origins 2. Sorry to hear you base your entire opinion on a demo that does not showcase the entire game (you do realize the game has been edited and cut to fit just to get the gist of the game).

Edit: At least you're giving the game a chance. You're opinion is different than mine and that's alright, because a lot of people are attached to Origins style and gameplay. But making threads that showcase your disappointment isn't going to stop the new direction or even cancel the game itself.

Modifié par Celtic Latino, 01 mars 2011 - 05:38 .

[AtreiyaN7]

The last time I played DA:O, I was amazed that I was able to force myself through the lair of the werewolves one more time without screaming. In any case, please come back when you've actually played the true beginning of the game, because everyone knows (or should know) that a considerable portion of the game has been cut out after the Blightlands segment.

You're completely ignoring at least one known fact: Hawke meets with his/her uncle to get into Kirkwall. Events in the real game do NOT involve skipping directly to Isabela's quest the way that they did in the demo. Either you're being disingenuous, or you're ignorant about what actually happens.

I watched that new 1up gameplay vid today, and I saw dear old Uncle Hawke reunited with the Hawke family. Avoiding any details/spoilers, there was a fair bit of talking going on. Ditto on the portion with Anders in the party, I saw a conversation in which Anders was pretty emotional, and you (or at least he) is presented with what I think is probably a difficult choice. I'd rather not say what since it would be a spoiler.

[mr_nameless]

Played the demo, went back to BG2 with fixpack and the loads of user mods available. Designing my own stuff too

[mesmerizedish]

The way the OP describes it reminds me of BGII versus BG1. In BG1, you start out in Candlekeep, you have to talk to loads of people and do their dumb little quests and soak up all the "lore." BGII drops you right into the middle of a fight. Guess which opener was more exciting?

[Sithlord715]

Klume, I wholeheartedly 100% agree with you. I just recently (ie, earlier today) played the Witch Hunt DLC for Origins, as I had not done so yet, and wow, did it hit me how much of a superior game DA:O is compared to the DA2 demo. Granted, we haven't played the full game of DA2 yet, and yes, I do intend to buy in on Day 1. However, so much has been dumbed down from the first game (Seriously, the whole "picture" thing in the dialogue wheel is kind of insulting) that it's truly saddening. From the horrendous interface of DA2, to the ridiculous looking Darkspawn, and to the utter lack of skills, DA2 is gonna have a hard time surpassing it's predecessor; a game, which in my opinion, is one of the best RPGs of the decade

[Nic-V]

Funny. I felt the exact opposite way.

Modifié par Nic-V, 01 mars 2011 - 05:54 .

[Rawgrim]

I wonder how "Think like a general" will come into play. Friendly fire is disabled on everything except Nightmare mode (for the player, not the enemies). Very general-like to nuke your own people with no negative effect. Add the fact that there is no isometric\\tactical view of the battle this time, and well....I think the "think like a general" bit is just out the window.

[Taleroth]

It depends on the opening. I think Mage opening is pretty good. But, I don't like spending 10+ minutes in conversation. Especially given how conversations are handled. I do like how you get dropped into an interesting area to explore fairly shortly. With minimal combat, some decisions, a puzzle.

Human noble start I can do without.

DA2, I like that they jump into things quicker. I don't like the area, it doesn't grab me. Neither do the enemies.  It starts off feeling repetitive.

So while I like getting into action quicker, I like it when it's done better.

Modifié par Taleroth, 01 mars 2011 - 05:57 .

[KLUME777]

Machines Are Us wrote...

Considering your sig shows you to be a troll, I find it hard to take anything you say seriously, and that's even before you start comparing a demo to a fully fledged game.

How many people would have enjoyed the demo half of it had been talking? Demo's, as well as advertising are meant more to draw in people who might otherwise have not considered getting things, not so much for people who are already fans.

You think im a troll because of my sig? Well your mistaken, i just dislike all the tali (no offense), and i found it funny. Plus ive been on this forum much longer than you.

[Bborst]

String910 wrote...

you are comparing a full game like origins with the demo of da2 which is intended to show the fighting sistem and the gameplay mechanics, not the story of the game

and you are complaining about the feeling and story of da2 ?

wow...thats just...wow

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[Atmosfear3]

Funny, I felt the exact opposite. I found myself hitting R the other day to initiate my attack without realizing I wasn't playing the demo anymore. DA2 is the natural evolution of DA:O and I'm glad to leave it behind.

[Sora Shepherd]

Chist, I don't even know where to begin.

I'll hold my tongue, but I have a great feeling your view of Dragon Age 2 will change drastically when the full game comes out.

[Querne]

]String910 wrote...

you are comparing a full game like origins with the demo of da2 which is intended to show the fighting sistem and the gameplay mechanics, not the story of the game

and you are complaining about the feeling and story of da2 ?

wow...thats just...wow

Dont know whats that wow about it, he or she compares two beginnings of a game and thats what weve got with the demo.

[Felene]

Once someone point out Demo has a lot of cut content, usually another one will keep biting on the fact Demo was part of the full game like a dog.

Once someone point out "something someone doesn't approve" is just in the demo and will be remove in the retail game, usually another one will keep biting on their point of it was in the Demo and will be part of the full game like a dog.

Once someone point out changes in DA2 actually makes sense, usually another one will keep biting on the fact they don't like it and whine like a dog.

Modifié par Felene, 01 mars 2011 - 06:14 .

[Sithlord715]

Felene wrote...

Once someone point out Demo has a lot of cut content, usually another one will keep biting on the fact Demo was part of the full game like a dog.

Once someone point out "something someone doesn't approve" is just in the demo and will be remove in the retail game, usually another one will keep biting on their point of it was in the Demo and will be part of the full game like a dog.

Once someone point out changes in DA2 actually makes sense, usually another
one will keep biting on the fact they don't like it and whine like a
dog.

Confucious Say

And yes, I agree. It doesn't help that most people on this board are just blind fanboys. Funny, I thought I was a Bioware fanboy, but c'mon people, you can't ignore bad changes when they happen

Modifié par Sithlord715, 01 mars 2011 - 06:17 .

[panamakira]

icarushorizon wrote...

I went and finished up a few DLC items I had to for my import game after playing the demo, and actually enjoyed both forms of combat.

Same here. I love Origins still and I have a feeling I'm gonna love DA2 as well. Shocking! I can actually like both games!!

[gelgoog]

I highly doubt you'll read this but after reading your later comments after your post you seem to be more.... civilized than I thought. I must apologize for thinking you were a troll. But you seem to have some misconceptions about the demo. The developers wanted the to focus on the combat it seems thats why when you arrived at kirkwall there was a major rush of plot. Notice Varric in your party?

[TwistedComplex]

KLUME777 wrote...



Origins was not linear in level design

Oooohhh reallyyyyy?

[SlayTheDragons]

TwistedComplex wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...



Origins was not linear in level design

Oooohhh reallyyyyy?

the prison contains curves and semicirlces..not linear. OP is right huh?

[Nonoru]