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[Shepyrd]

Entitlements?!? Entitlements!!!

BTW...Impressions are different than likes when looking at Facebook Analytics. If that's what they really meant.

[Crimson_red]

Does anyone know what an impression is (In regards to this challenge)? I know how to share, but I've never heard the term 'impression' as it applies here as far as I know.

[svenus97]

I don't do Facebook, sorry But this also seems highly unlikely. Doesn't the WoW facebook fanbase have 1 million players, what is DA2 in sales compared to WoW ?

Gratz

[spernus]

Kitsukaru wrote...

Yeah, sure, BioWare. That counter went from 800k to 1 million in a split second.

Yeah,doesn't make any sense and I don't trust them.   Probably a decent cover up to their fail attempt at generating hype for Dragon age 2,but they have all the information while we don't.Perhaps they added the numbers from console download during the weekend+steam?

[CSARGE1]

Excision wrote...

There's no way we'll hit a million of this new sca- promotion.

1 million demo downloads across 3 platforms is one thing, but for a million people to go to the dragon age fb page and hit "share" on that link, when there's only 330k fans on fb anyway... unlikely.

thats no reason no to try

[Mykel54]

I´m happy that bioware succeeded with their goal, but sorry i am not going to promote facebook just because they give me some item for free. I also think this second objetive is way too ambitious.

[MondaiSenshi]

Problem with this challenge is, we can't see the impressions. We have no idea how close we are.

But, on the other hand, we could just refresh pages all day. Every time the post is loaded in a feed, each refresh that it generates the ad, counts as an impression. So it shouldn't be too hard to hit these goals.

[Sable Phoenix]

This marketing program is almost insulting. "Oh, let's bribe people!"

Then again, it's right up there hand in hand with the oldest of professions, so...

[Daniteh]

For those of you who think that this promotion is illegal to do on Facebook, actually read what your posting. You do not qualify or get anything from participating in the promotion. Everyone (participating or not) will receive the reward if the goal is reached. Biosare is simply saying hey if you guys want an extra item [EXTRA - you are not entitled to it] you have to reach a goal that they have predetermined.

[Trikun]

Daniteh wrote...

For those of you who think that this promotion is illegal to do on Facebook, actually read what your posting. You do not qualify or get anything from participating in the promotion. Everyone (participating or not) will receive the reward if the goal is reached. Biosare is simply saying hey if you guys want an extra item [EXTRA - you are not entitled to it] you have to reach a goal that they have predetermined.

The fact that non participants also recieve the prize (if they reach the goal) has, in fact, nothing to do with the promotion itself. It is still in breach of the guidelines.

Modifié par Trikun, 28 février 2011 - 10:46 .

[MondaiSenshi]

Crimson_red wrote...

Does anyone know what an impression is (In regards to this challenge)? I know how to share, but I've never heard the term 'impression' as it applies here as far as I know.

I had to look it up, myself, and I got: "Facebook takes the number of impressions (how many times the posts has showed up on a Facebook users' feeds, and on the page itself)"

There's also some info in their knowledge base over here that you can read up on. They don't have any CLEAR definitions, but I think the basic idea is:

Every time it's on a page, it counts up. Whether someone's on the Dragon Age 2 facebook page and refreshes the page 10 times and gets us 10 impressions, whether they reload their own feed with their own shared link being generated again, or whether a friend visits their page and generates the ad. Basically, when someone opens facebook and DA2's little advert/promo/post is on that facebook page, it's an impression. 

[LinksOcarina]

Meh, I like free stuff so I don't mind participating.

[bel3338]

MondaiSenshi wrote...

Problem with this challenge is, we can't see the impressions. We have no idea how close we are.

But, on the other hand, we could just refresh pages all day. Every time the post is loaded in a feed, each refresh that it generates the ad, counts as an impression. So it shouldn't be too hard to hit these goals.

Yeah thats the impression I got about impressions - sorry about that appalling pun, but I couldn't help myself.
As such it should be relatively easy, trouble is I doubt many people realise how the system works. Folks would make a much greater impact refreshing the page about 10 times than just sharing once and forgetting about it

[Nichos354]

I've never been so happy for unreadable free books in my life.

[Crimson_red]

MondaiSenshi wrote...

I had to look it up, myself, and I got: "Facebook takes the number of impressions (how many times the posts has showed up on a Facebook users' feeds, and on the page itself)"

There's also some info in their knowledge base over here that you can read up on. They don't have any CLEAR definitions, but I think the basic idea is:

Every time it's on a page, it counts up. Whether someone's on the Dragon Age 2 facebook page and refreshes the page 10 times and gets us 10 impressions, whether they reload their own feed with their own shared link being generated again, or whether a friend visits their page and generates the ad. Basically, when someone opens facebook and DA2's little advert/promo/post is on that facebook page, it's an impression.

Thank you

[MondaiSenshi]

Trikun wrote...

Following quote is from http://www.facebook....guidelines.php:

These Promotions Guidelines, along with the Statement of Rights and Responsibilities, the Ad Guidelines, the Platform Policies and all other applicable Facebook policies, govern your communication about or administration of any sweepstakes, contest, competition or other similar offering (each, a "promotion") on Facebook.

As far as I can see, it clearly defines that making users do what Bioware is asking is not allowed.

• You cannot:  Condition entry in the promotion upon a user providing content on Facebook, such as posting on a Wall of a Page,  uploading a photo, or posting a status update.
• You cannot:  Administer a promotion that users automatically enter by liking your Page, checking in to your Place or connecting to your Platform integration.

Yeah, they're fine. Read it all, and learn what impressions are. You don't have to do any of those things to "enter" because there is no ENTERING this contest. It's a group effort without entry. And to reach 1,000,000 hits, we don't have to share their post (which, btw, requiring users to like statuses isn't against rules, so I kinda doubt that would be either). Honestly, all we NEED to do to hit 1,000,000 impressions is have someone on the Dragon Age 2 Facebook page refresh it 1,000,000 times. Or have 1,000,000 people visit the DA2 FB page. Or have 100 people share the link and each of those people has 100 friends refresh their feeds 100 times...

Long story short, lawsuit, no. Nice try, though! 

[Trikun]

MondaiSenshi wrote...

Yeah, they're fine. Read it all, and learn what impressions are. You don't have to do any of those things to "enter" because there is no ENTERING this contest. It's a group effort without entry. And to reach 1,000,000 hits, we don't have to share their post (which, btw, requiring users to like statuses isn't against rules, so I kinda doubt that would be either). Honestly, all we NEED to do to hit 1,000,000 impressions is have someone on the Dragon Age 2 Facebook page refresh it 1,000,000 times. Or have 1,000,000 people visit the DA2 FB page. Or have 100 people share the link and each of those people has 100 friends refresh their feeds 100 times...

Long story short, lawsuit, no. Nice try, though! 

The prequisite for 'winning' the prize works by liking and sharing the required post, in addition to the impressions (which are, as far as I can see, in violation of the guidelines I posted earlier). As previously stated, the fact that non entering fans also get the prize if we reach the aquired goal, has nothing to do with the violations themselves.

Modifié par Trikun, 28 février 2011 - 11:09 .

[Ballistic714]

For everyone who's worried about them violating FB rules... have we already forgotten they are creating a Dragon Age Facebook game? Even if this promotion did go against rules they obviously have some kind of partnership in place, and aren't going shut down their own partners' efforts...

[MasterSamson88]

Oh you marketing geniuses bioware... you've really put me in a situation. XD

[JFarr74]

We did it!!! So how can we download these tomes?

[ChronoHawk]

It will do so automatically once the game is released. If you check your "promotional items" in your profile, you will see the tomes have been added.

[Faker_]

I can play the demo 10 more times if you guys want, but facebook is not going to happen for me. Good luck guys

[Ranadiel Marius]

Trikun wrote...

MondaiSenshi wrote...

Yeah, they're fine. Read it all, and learn what impressions are. You don't have to do any of those things to "enter" because there is no ENTERING this contest. It's a group effort without entry. And to reach 1,000,000 hits, we don't have to share their post (which, btw, requiring users to like statuses isn't against rules, so I kinda doubt that would be either). Honestly, all we NEED to do to hit 1,000,000 impressions is have someone on the Dragon Age 2 Facebook page refresh it 1,000,000 times. Or have 1,000,000 people visit the DA2 FB page. Or have 100 people share the link and each of those people has 100 friends refresh their feeds 100 times...

Long story short, lawsuit, no. Nice try, though! 

The prequisite for 'winning' the prize works by liking and sharing the required post, in addition to the impressions (which are, as far as I can see, in violation of the guidelines I posted earlier). As previously stated, the fact that non entering fans also get the prize if we reach the aquired goal, has nothing to do with the violations themselves.

Why do you care whether this violates Facebook's policies? If it does then Facebook will smack EA and a different method of unlocking the item will quickly be devised.

And regardless, it doesn't violate those policies that you posted. For starters this is not a "sweepstakes, contest, competition or other similar offering" so this wouldn't be governed by these policies. Even if they were there is no entry through Facebook so the first one is out. The second one is out for the same reason. Entry only occurs through Bioware's site and/or the DA2 demo.

[MasterSamson88]

Yeah I was surprised to see the tomes in my item list today.

Pleasantly surprised. Thank you bioware.

[Trikun]

Ranadiel Marius wrote...

Why do you care whether this violates Facebook's policies? If it does then Facebook will smack EA and a different method of unlocking the item will quickly be devised.

And regardless, it doesn't violate those policies that you posted. For starters this is not a "sweepstakes, contest, competition or other similar offering" so this wouldn't be governed by these policies. Even if they were there is no entry through Facebook so the first one is out. The second one is out for the same reason. Entry only occurs through Bioware's site and/or the DA2 demo.

Why not?

I have to disagree. This is a competition, just like any other competition (promotion, sweepstakes, give-away, whatever you want to call it). We (Non participants included) win the prize if we manage to get to the aquired goal by using means that are (as far as I can see) in violation of the promotion guidelines of facebook.Why do you want to know why I care? If you value my intent so much, I
must say I'm flattered. However it doesn't really matter, does it? I just think that this should've been thought alot more through by EA and Bioware before making such a competition. Especially considering Facebook has such strict guidelines on this issue.