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[Gentleman Moogle]

yeah, I had that problem with Jack in ME2. I was just trying to be nice to her, when suddenly the "I want to talk about you" option became "I want to talk about -us-." I looked at it and went 'wait... I was pursuing Tali. When the hell did I start pursuing Jack?"

Dang shame, too, 'cause I was trying hard to be her friend.

[chrono21791]

danitiwa wrote...

It's like it's forcing Shepard to constantly be hitting on him even when she isn't saying anything suggestive or romantic.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

"So you like prothean ruins, huh?"
"Oh, Shepard... You are so charming..."

<_<

[danitiwa]

chrono21791 wrote...

danitiwa wrote...

It's like it's forcing Shepard to constantly be hitting on him even when she isn't saying anything suggestive or romantic.

Exactly what I'm talking about.

"So you like prothean ruins, huh?"
"Oh, Shepard... You are so charming..."

<_<

Yeah haha.
"Tell me about the Asari"
"WE CAN HAVE SEX WITH ANYONE DO YOU WANT TO"
" I- I was just interested in your culture"

That's the reason I liked Liara way more after LoTSB, she acts way less like a psychotic rapist.
I like Liara, it's just that... She was really creepy in ME1. :| It's not enough I had Kaidan trying to over analyse everything I said Liara had to go and do it too, with her intense voice that sounds like she has a large lump of bread caught in her asophagus.

Pwener2313 wrote...

danitiwa wrote...

Then
there's the problem that Jennifer Hale's voice acting goes all weird and
horny when she says certain things to Jacob that seem neutral on the
dialogue option wheel.

Please, elaborate, I find myself.... entralled.

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I mean when she says "I'm interested in just talking for a bit" she
suddenly turns into a sleazy schoolgirl and rubs her ass against the
table she's leaning on.

Modifié par danitiwa, 28 février 2011 - 11:57 .

[chrono21791]

danitiwa wrote...




Yeah haha.
"Tell me about the Asari"
"WE CAN HAVE SEX WITH ANYONE DO YOU WANT TO"
" I- I was just interested in your culture"

That's the reason I liked Liara way more after LoTSB, she acts way less like a psychotic rapist.
I like Liara, it's just that... She was really creepy in ME1. :| It's not enough I had Kaidan trying to over analyse everything I said Liara had to go and do it too, with her intense voice that sounds like she has a large lump of bread caught in her asophagus.

I lol'd.  Personally, I thought Liara was kind of cute, the way she didn't know you were joking... at first. Then she starts getting this drunk eyed look at you, and all your dialogue options are uber-cheezy, resulting in me laughing maniacly the first time I romanced her. That was some funny ****.

Havn't played LoTSB yet, (just got ME2 a few days ago ) but I look forward to the romance not being so... wierd...

[Corpsetorn]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Corpsetorn wrote...

I agree with chrono. The should have just left Paragon, Neutral, and Renegade off to the right and put romance dialogue options on the left. That way you can be nice to someone on your squad without worrying about getting your bones jumped.

But then there's no element of surprise. It's supposed to be a relationship simulator. What if you knew the way to defeat the Reapers? That would ruin the game now wouldn't it. Same here.

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True, I was thinking about that even as I was writing it, but I decided to wrap up my post regardless.

[Isaidlunch]

Ninjamances wouldn't bother me so much if there was an option to get out of it. ME1 is by far the worst in that regard. Be nice to Ashley and you're rewarded with being stuck in a romance you didn't want or you have to make your Shepard act like a jerk for no reason at all.

[Interactive Civilian]

The way I look at the sudden attraction of/to Liara in ME1 is due to the "mind-meld". My canon femShep is romancing her, and that's the only way I can explain the suddennes of the mutual attraction between them: in touching their minds, they found something they love about each other.

In an non-romance situation / character with Liara, I also chalk up her attraction to Shepard being due to that. Otherwise, yeah, it doesn't make much sense. However, it's easy to stop any budding romance with her.

For people not wanting to romance Ashley but still wanting to be friends with her, you can shut her down in the first conversation you have with her down in the cargo bay, when she expresses her unease at having aliens around. Hit her with the "You're out of line" option on the left, and then you can carry on having conversations with her without romancing her.

Unfortunately for the femSheps, Kaidan doesn't seem to have any similar option (I was hoping that "Very inappropriate" option during the scenic view conversation on the Citadel would do it, but alas). You have to wade through a bit of a mine-field. You have to have one conversation with him that he interprets as flirty, ending with "I'll need some time to think about that" before you can shut down the romance and still be friends with him in the next conversation: if you are romancing Liara, he'll bring up rumors, otherwise he'll mention something about "us" or something. Use the lower-right dialog option in either case and it lets him down gently enough that you can continue to talk to him about his experiences in Biotic Training (he'll respond with a "That's all the information I needed" or something, and then you can get one or two more friendly conversations out of him). Once I figured out when/how to dodge the bullet with him, I actually found that I like hearing his back-story. This last play-through was the first time I'd ever gotten him to use the name of the girl he was in love with during his stories, and I still managed to dodge the romance.

As for ME2... Yeah, it's tricky. As I'm still learning the ways of the various dialog options with the various squadmates, I tend to do a quicksave before running around the ship to talk to folks. Jacob is a bit of a minefield, but once you get past the annoying flirty-toned "I'm more interested in just talking" and then tend to stick with middle choices, I've actually found him enjoyable to talk to and managed to get to the friendly bro-fist and promise of spilling some drinks on the Citadel.

At least Garrus is pretty straight forward. It's obvious when you have the choice to sex0r him. However, I do like the fact that you can choose the "relieve stress" option and then ask to spar rather than shag, to keep things just friendly between you.

Thane, I'm still working out, aside from the rather obvious example of not choosing "I want to sex0r you" after he tells you about his dead wife (allow me to add to the chorus of "WTF?").

I haven't actually played enough maleShep to know anything about dealing with his romances in ME2.

Modifié par Interactive Civilian, 01 mars 2011 - 12:49 .

[Nebuyl]

Was anyone else confused when that Jack ninjamance happened? You're pursuing a relationship with a diff LI, and when you try to understand why Jack is crazy, she takes it as a come on. I was scared sh*tless when I had to reject her.

Apparently, being her psychotherapist is a turn on for her.

Modifié par Nebuyl, 01 mars 2011 - 12:58 .

[chrono21791]

Nebuyl wrote...

Was anyone else confused when that Jack ninjamance happened? You're pursuing a relationship with a diff LI, and when you try to understand why Jack is crazy, she takes it as a come on. I was scared sh*tless when I had to reject her.

Apparently, being her psychotherapist is a turn on for her.

She should hook up with Kelly, then.

[chrono21791]

On that note, I also wish squad mates would pursue relationships with each other if you don't go after them. Or, even if you DO go after them, and you have to contend with the other partner...

[Alarieliia]

Yep. I agree with youon your statement Chrono.  I working on a friend zone relationship with Jacob. In my past playthroughs I avoided him like the plague. Same with Liara in ME1. I wish I could get points without opposite sex crewmwmbers trying to jump meh bones. XD

Modifié par Alarieliia, 01 mars 2011 - 01:36 .

[Interactive Civilian]

chrono21791 wrote...

Nebuyl wrote...

Was anyone else confused when that Jack ninjamance happened? You're pursuing a relationship with a diff LI, and when you try to understand why Jack is crazy, she takes it as a come on. I was scared sh*tless when I had to reject her.

Apparently, being her psychotherapist is a turn on for her.

She should hook up with Kelly, then.

She probably already has.

[In Exile]

danitiwa wrote..

Then there's the problem that Jennifer Hale's voice acting goes all weird and horny when she says certain things to Jacob that seem neutral on the dialogue option wheel.

Taylor v Shepard, the bugs that the Illusive Man planted will formed the basis for the sexual harrasment suit.

[Destroy Raiden_]

the romance bracket would help out so much here so you could have a friendly conversation with romanceable characters but use the new bracket to start the romance if you want to or in the case of existing LI they can't talk to them but use that bracket to switch from casual conversation mode to let's talk more about us mode or use the bracket to initiate the fun mode.

[Xilizhra]

Thane, I'm still working out, aside from the rather obvious example of not choosing "I want to sex0r you" after he tells you about his dead wife (allow me to add to the chorus of "WTF?").

Shepard doesn't really say "I want you," it's just what she means. The actual line is a lot tamer and more respectful.

[Sajuro]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

drahelvete wrote...

That's why there's a flirting icon in DA2. No more ninjamances.

We need one of these in ME3, damn it.

At least ME2's pickup lines were, for the most part, absurdly obvious...

Thane: So that's the sad little story of my dead wife.
FemShep: Great!  Let's have sex!
Thane: ... What?

Unfortunately, Jacob broke this rule, where the only way to not flirt with him was to not talk to him or to play as a dude.

That's because he has an indoctrination device in his rock hard abs.

[jbblue05]

Their are no ninjamances in ME

Here's a hint stop picking the top option everytime.

You can turn Ashley down in the 1st conversation  "You're out of line"
2nd conversation when her sister calls Ash choose "unacceptable.

If you keept talking to a LI and are super-nice to them of course they are going to think you want to romance them

[Yakko77]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

I will kill you both wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

At least liara in ME1 i can avoid romance with (ash was trouble, had to blow her up to stop it)
.

You murderer!

Perfectly reasonable action with a perfectly reasonable effect. Good for you.

Channeling your inner Mordin?

[Commander Kurt]

Yeah, I don't really see the problem. Shep is attractive, it's canon, and as such people will want to get with him/her. Being nice to them will make them think they have a chance, and sometimes they will be upset when being turned down. If you havn't been ninja'd IRL, it's good practise.

To me it's more enjoyable not to know the consequences all the time when choosing a dialogue option/course of action, it adds to the replay value for one thing. To have icons telling me "This option will make him love you", "This option will give you 30 silver", "This option will start a fight" kinda kills the mood.

Playing a RPG, I like to roleplay it. That is, not choose a specific outcome but have the char do/say what comes naturally for him/her and see where that leads you. It's more fun when that's not a given.

[YamiSnuffles]

jbblue05 wrote...

Their are no ninjamances in ME

Here's a hint stop picking the top option everytime.

You can turn Ashley down in the 1st conversation  "You're out of line"
2nd conversation when her sister calls Ash choose "unacceptable.

If you keept talking to a LI and are super-nice to them of course they are going to think you want to romance them

So not true. I didn't want to romance Kaidan, so almost always chose the middle or bottom choices only to find out from Ashley that I was in a relationship with him apparently. All of my intial conversations with Liara were renegade or neutral but she still thought I had the hots for her. Same with Jack in ME2.

[brightblueink]

I don't think it's *that* hard to avoid a romance...at the very least, I romanced Kaiden in the first game, played (mostly) Paragon in the second and just had friendships with all of the possible female love interests while still getting to ask about their backstory and things. The only one I had a real problem with was Kelly, I think, but IIRC I was able to tell her that I cared for Kaiden and she backed off pretty quickly.

Of course, my next playthrough I'm doing Renegade, and I'm thinking of purposefully having a love triangle (or so) going on in the second game just to...screw with the characters more. It'll be interesting to see if that's difficult to trigger or not.

[jbblue05]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Their are no ninjamances in ME

Here's a hint stop picking the top option everytime.

You can turn Ashley down in the 1st conversation  "You're out of line"
2nd conversation when her sister calls Ash choose "unacceptable.

If you keept talking to a LI and are super-nice to them of course they are going to think you want to romance them

So not true. I didn't want to romance Kaidan, so almost always chose the middle or bottom choices only to find out from Ashley that I was in a relationship with him apparently. All of my intial conversations with Liara were renegade or neutral but she still thought I had the hots for her. Same with Jack in ME2.

I never attempted to romance Kaidan since I'm a guy, I know all female LI's romances can be easily avoided

[Smeelia]

jbblue05 wrote...

Their are no ninjamances in ME

Here's a hint stop picking the top option everytime.

You can turn Ashley down in the 1st conversation  "You're out of line"
2nd conversation when her sister calls Ash choose "unacceptable.

If you keept talking to a LI and are super-nice to them of course they are going to think you want to romance them

The problem isn't that they fall in love with you, it's that you can't necessarily control Shepard (being your character) and decide on their feelings.  Having to shout at someone or otherwise be unpleasant to them in order to avoid falling in love with them is just silly.  There are too many options where romance is assumed when you just want to be friendly, too many of them are poorly labeled and it just doesn't give you enough choice in how to play your character.

I thought that Tali's romance dialogue options were the best explained, being "I'm interested", "I'm interested but it's too dangerous to risk your health right now" and "I'm not interested, I think of you as a friend".  You don't even get to those options if you don't show an interest in her (you have to talk about how difficult it must be to live in a suit and so on) so it seems like a more realistic relationship than most of the others.  It's just a shame that there isn't any more dialogue between friends after that discussion.

[Barquiel]

I don't see the problem...

Ashley - first conversation
"You're out of line"

Liara - second conversation, after Liara expresses her interest in Shepard you have three options for a response to her:
"No, I just want to be friends"
and then...
"I'm not interested in you in that way"
no romance = I think it is quite obvious!

Kaidan - first conversation
"gave up waiting for the good part"
It's a bit harsh, but it ends the romance

Modifié par Barquiel, 02 mars 2011 - 03:02 .