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[Zelnik]

No one seems to like them. When they were part of the Citidel races, they spent most of their time stealing colonies and making slave raids on the other members of the citidel... They threw a major tantrum when humanity appeared and starting taking worlds near them, and after they got their collective asses handed to them, they left and took their ball with them.

So.. they are a bunch of bigoted, slaving, self centered jerks... why hasn't the Citidel council just wiped them off the face of the galaxy?

[MajorStranger]

Because Genocide is bad, They had no choice with the Rachni and the krogan, but the Batarian stay in the Terminus so it's fine for now.

[Pwener2313]

War breaks out in the new DLC with the Batarians. I'll say no more.

[Pacifien]

I imagine the Batarians would have no qualms ramming several FTL ships into highly populated areas if the Citadel decided the universe would be better without them. You'd have to weigh the existence of the Batarian species with the cost of millions and, perhaps, billions of lives as the Batarians take a "I'm taking you all out with me" approach to their downfall. That, plus, we only ever see small facets of the Batarians as a whole, so I wouldn't use that to judge the entire species. Garrus seemed to like his Batarian squadmate well enough.

[InvaderErl]

The Batarians are also a Terminus system power now, attacking them would draw the ire of the others.

[Pwener2313]

Batarians are the equivalent of space suicide bombers... times infinity.

[Zelnik]

I am making the point now that the game has taken few, if any, attempts to shine the Batarians in anything but a bad light. For the most part, you spend the game punching them in the face as hard as you can, with little regard for cultural understanding. I say let them burn.

[Pwener2313]

I say let them be taken out by the Reapers. I'll take that option if available in ME3. I heard that in ME3 we get the chance to resolve the Batarian problem. I choose to kill them all.

[GodWood]

Pwener2313 wrote...
I say let them be taken out by the Reapers. I'll take that option if available in ME3. I heard that in ME3 we get the chance to resolve the Batarian problem. I choose to kill them all.

I find it amusing that in most cases it's the paragon/'paragade' forumites who actively hope for the genocide of the batarian species.

I, as a renegade, have no desire to wipe out billions of innoccent men, women and children.

[Pwener2313]

Well, some people do! Mainly me. My shepard isn't even of the colony survivor background. I just hate them to the core.

[Adugan]

Vorcha are worse than Batarians.

GAHHHH! KEEL HYOOMAN!

[GodWood]

Vorcha are adorable

[Pwener2313]

Scale itch?

[Xivai]

This is how it always starts. First people think Vorcha are useless blight that should be erradicated. Now it's Batarians. Who's next? Turians? The stick up their arse and traditional close minded ways ****** you off? You humans are all racist.

[GodWood]

Pwener2313 wrote...
Scale itch?

Not in that way.
More of a huggly, snuggly way.

[weyrleader]

I keep a couple of Batarians handy for added traction just in case my Mako gets stuck in a rut. Otherwise, I've got a loaded clip of Cryo rounds just itchin' for each eye.

[Bluko]

GodWood wrote...
I find it amusing that in most cases it's the paragon/'paragade' forumites who actively hope for the genocide of the batarian species.

I, as a renegade, have no desire to wipe out billions of innoccent men, women and children.

So is that why renegade Shepard exterminates the Rachni, kills Shiala (okay not totally innocent), and kills the Heretic Geth? Just to name a few.

I'm pretty sure renegade Shepard especially if they're of Colonist origin or War Hero/Ruthless reputation, probably wouldn't have any qualms wiping out every Batarian. Colonist Shepard's family was killed by Batarians. War Hero Shepard namely fought Batarian pirates. Ruthless Shepard lost 75% of their unit to Batarians.

Really the only Shepard that doesn't have a reason to hate the Batarians is Earthborn/Spacer Sole Survivor Shepard.

True enough not all Batarians are bad. Just like not all Krogan are violent. Thing is those are mostly the exceptions. Do the Batarians deserved to be wiped out? No. Are they still nasty slavers and terrorists for the most part? Yes. And my Shepard certainly has no qualms killing those who are. I honestly feel more sorry for killing the Collectors then I do for most Batarian Terrorists/Pirates/Slavers. They're as mean as you can get.

It's like Zaeed said, "No one's as good at terror tactics as they are. Krogan will come at you, break your face, kill your family. But the Batarians will turn your planet into a glass parking-lot without a second thought."

[Katamariguy]

Same reason North Korea's been around for 60 years- a war would be costly and they mostly stick to themselves.

[Adugan]

The Geth issue is kinda grey in a lot of ways. Is killing millions of them or brainwashing them all better? Both are despicable, and I cant really say which is a Paragon or a Renegade option.

[Dexi]

War is bad, especially when innocents are involved.
I'd annihilate their fleet though ( give them the chance to do it, if not draw them in a nice battle and destroy them, even better, give the humans the pleasure to do it ). And give them no right to create an armada. Change your economic orientation!

[GodWood]

Bluko wrote...

GodWood wrote...
I find it amusing that in most cases it's the paragon/'paragade' forumites who actively hope for the genocide of the batarian species.

I, as a renegade, have no desire to wipe out billions of innoccent men, women and children.

So is that why renegade Shepard exterminates the Rachni, kills Shiala (okay not totally innocent), and kills the Heretic Geth? Just to name a few.

Errr, I'm not sure what you're trying to prove with this as one can be renegade and do none or only some of those things but...
Killing the rachni queen is killing one potentially innoccent individual to prevent another rachni queen being born and rising up to take revenge for her ancestors. In the long run this saves more lives.
Killing Shiala (although I don't do it) has its reasons.
And by destroying the heretic geth you prevent integrating the 'memories' of the heretics into the geth collective.

But honestly I don't see how any of that is relevent as killing one rachni, one asari or choosing to kill some geth instead of 'brain-washing' them is no way comparable to wiping out billlions of innocents.

I'm pretty sure renegade Shepard especially if they're of Colonist origin or War Hero/Ruthless reputation, probably wouldn't have any qualms wiping out every Batarian. Colonist Shepard's family was killed by Batarians. War Hero Shepard namely fought Batarian pirates. Ruthless Shepard lost 75% of their unit to Batarians.

None of those are sound reasons to hate or wish the extermination of billions of innoccents and any Shepard who uses those excuses to hate/kill batarians is a moron.

True enough not all Batarians are bad. Just like not all Krogan are violent. Thing is those are mostly the exceptions.

I find it hard to believe that 'non-slavers' would be a minority in batarian society and no where in game does it say they are.

Modifié par GodWood, 01 mars 2011 - 07:57 .

[Vyse_Fina]

Pacifien wrote...

I imagine the Batarians would have no qualms ramming several FTL ships into highly populated areas if the Citadel decided the universe would be better without them...

You know, that makes a lot of sense actually. Why do the batarians go through plans like crashing a meteor into a human colony if they could just do that. Afterall Newton IS the deadliest son of a **** in space as we've learned on the Citadel. Nobody oculd stop that or even see it comming. They wouldn't even have to sacrifice lives. Just set the damn thing to autopilot and watch it go. ô.o

Stop giving them ideas, will you???

[TornadoADV]

Surprising how few people know of RKVs, they've been around the block quite a few times in Hard Sci-Fi circles, it makes conventional war extremely pointless like you see in video games.

[CroGamer002]

Well will get Batarian as squadmate in ME3 and everybody will change their mind.


Well everyone but ZULU.

[Bogsnot1]

Vyse_Fina wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

I imagine the Batarians would have no qualms ramming several FTL ships into highly populated areas if the Citadel decided the universe would be better without them...

You know, that makes a lot of sense actually. Why do the batarians go through plans like crashing a meteor into a human colony if they could just do that. Afterall Newton IS the deadliest son of a **** in space as we've learned on the Citadel. Nobody oculd stop that or even see it comming. They wouldn't even have to sacrifice lives. Just set the damn thing to autopilot and watch it go. ô.o
Stop giving them ideas, will you???

Its called plausible deniability.

TornadoADV wrote...
Surprising how few people know of RKVs, they've been around the block quite a few times in Hard Sci-Fi circles, it makes conventional war extremely pointless like you see in video games.

I cant remember the book series its from, but one of the best examples Ive read of RKV's was a Reaper vs Earth scenario, with kamikaze pilots in the RKV. The RKV was nothing more than a simple spacecraft, accelerated to hyper velocities, and a suitable distance before impact, the pilot swung the vehicle around and engaged the engine, blanketting the RKV with supierheated plasma to allow for it to burn its way into the enemy craft before detonation.
On very rare occasions it would burn its way through, allowing the pilot to survive, while completely disabling the enemy craft.