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#26
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Swiftrunner annoyed me so I side with Tuvok on principle.

The principle that Swiftrunner annoys me.

Yes.

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The option to kill the eleves comes when talking to the spirit of the Forest. You have to convince her that killing them is the best thing to do I believe.

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The Angry One wrote...

Swiftrunner annoyed me so I side with Tuvok on principle.
The principle that Swiftrunner annoys me.
Yes.


On the other hand: Hot tree lady.

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Flamin Jesus wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Swiftrunner annoyed me so I side with Tuvok on principle.
The principle that Swiftrunner annoys me.
Yes.


On the other hand: Hot tree lady.


my thoughts exactly

#30
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Flamin Jesus wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Swiftrunner annoyed me so I side with Tuvok on principle.
The principle that Swiftrunner annoys me.
Yes.


On the other hand: Hot tree lady.


Her bark is worse than her bite.
Ho ho ho I kill me.

#31
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"Sweetheart, I don't want to tell you what to do, but it's... I don't know... Chafing a little... And I'm bleeding. You found the only toothbrush in the entire kingdom, couldn't you see if you find a ladyshave somewhere?"

"Also, the dog keeps watching us, it's making me uneasy."

Modifié par Flamin Jesus, 15 novembre 2009 - 06:29 .


#32
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Tough choice in the end.

I really liked the idea of helping out the Werewolves, even after all the crap they put my party through. BUT when I picked them, they just stood around during the battle and did not assist me at all. Not sure if this is supposed to happen or not. How can I expect to take on two Shales, four Sylvan Trees and Zatherian? I expected to at least have all the Werewolves on my side to ASSIST me!

So... I reloaded and picked the Elves. I guess that's what I went there for in the first place, to have them honor the old treaties. :?

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First play though, do what makes sense to you / for your character.

I, personally, slaughtered the werewolves my first time - didn't free them or anything. To me, as a Dalish, that made sense because they were killing my people. Even though they had their own reasons for that, I still wanted my own revenge.



My current play through, as a human wizard (AM/BM) who is more opportunistic & leans towards a darker side, I'm going to take the "why don't you just kill all the elves" approach & have werewolves in my army.

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Be a mage or bring Morrigan, cast Force Field on Tuvok Zathrian then control the rest with Mind Blast, Sleep or Paralysis.
Quite simple really. If you don't have these spells... well why not? They make life a lot easier.

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Fester Pot wrote...

Tough choice in the end.

I really liked the idea of helping out the Werewolves, even after all the crap they put my party through. BUT when I picked them, they just stood around during the battle and did not assist me at all. Not sure if this is supposed to happen or not. How can I expect to take on two Shales, four Sylvan Trees and Zatherian? I expected to at least have all the Werewolves on my side to ASSIST me!

So... I reloaded and picked the Elves. I guess that's what I went there for in the first place, to have them honor the old treaties. :?


Zathrian binds them when the combat starts, and even if you attack him the Elves will honor their treaty, he sees the light in the end and lifts the curse...

He's actually the only sort-of-bad-guy in that entire situation but redeems himself...

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Attacking Zathrian when he strikes first is probably the closest thing to an "everybody wins" scenario in the game.

The werewolves are turned back into humans, the Lady gets her wish to die and the elves are free of the attacks all at the expense of one man's life who lived far too long anyway, and willingly gives up his life to end the curse.

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After some convincing and an explanation by professor fireball, that is. :P

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Eh, being asked to give up my life to help (what he regards as) the same people who raped and murdered my family might require a hefty beating for me too before I'd consider it.

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Sure, I might actually die in that same situation out of pure spite, I just wanted to point out that his "willingness" emerged suspiciously close to the soon-to-be-performed disintegration of his sorry ass. ;)

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I killed the Elves on my elf rogue... I was still feeling pretty betrayed by them...




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Fester Pot wrote...

Tough choice in the end.

I really liked the idea of helping out the Werewolves, even after all the crap they put my party through. BUT when I picked them, they just stood around during the battle and did not assist me at all. Not sure if this is supposed to happen or not. How can I expect to take on two Shales, four Sylvan Trees and Zatherian? I expected to at least have all the Werewolves on my side to ASSIST me!

So... I reloaded and picked the Elves. I guess that's what I went there for in the first place, to have them honor the old treaties. :?


only attack zathrian
once you kill him the other enemies will dissapear

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Flamin Jesus wrote...

orberoz wrote...

i killed all off them that was fun lol man i love this game 100 off ways to do one thing


Or 1-2, to be more exact. ;)


Well, at least in this quest there's:
1. Take the WitherFang Heart to side with elves (if you give it to Zathrian, you get 2h Griffon Axe - Grey Warden only)
1.A. Kill Zathrian anyway - it's not like he doesn't deserve it - and bring a change in the elven leadership (not to mention his sweet staff)
2. Force Zathrian to end the curse (seems like pretty much no extra reward.. well there's that totally lame shield) - probably the most "good" solution
3. "Let's kill all the elves instead" (Zathrian's loot and a few other elven trinkets + you get a werewolf army)

Seems more like 3-4 different solutions, at least to this problem.

Modifié par Haplose, 26 novembre 2009 - 07:55 .


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The Angry One wrote...

Be a mage or bring Morrigan, cast Force Field on Tuvok Zathrian then control the rest with Mind Blast, Sleep or Paralysis.
Quite simple really. If you don't have these spells... well why not? They make life a lot easier.


Yeah, well, only that FF seems to last very shortly on bosses on Nightmare (and they resist it quite often too). Crushing Prison is even worse (duration and resisting).

Paralysis Explosion helped, but the area was so tight (and mob models so large!) I usually ended up paralysing also my own men. Mind Blast? Common, maybe usefull to catch a breath but otherwise the duration is almost useless.
Sleep I don't have yet - unfortunately.

Probably was my hardest fight so far.
Which is weird, because fighing Zathrian "only" is so much more difficult then buthering the whole Dalish settlement (including Zathrian) . Can't even compare the difficulty of these two battles.

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One of my characters slept with Cammen and then killed all the elves so she could brag about bedding a Dalish elf just before all remaining Dalish in Ferelden were mysteriously wiped out.

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 I think the only source of infinite elfroot is on the merchant in the elf camp.  Just remember that if you decide to kill the elves.