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[Satyricon331]

I've been thinking about which of the four endings for DAO I should pick as my canon.  I can't decide between the Ultimate Sacrifice and the Dark Ritual.  

Briefly, the character I want to have believes the Maker is the same as the elven trickster god Fen'Harel, and he sent locked away both the Tevinter and elven gods, so for that reason among others he'd like to stick it to the Chantry by doing the DR.  But he also doesn't trust Morrigan *that* much since (even besides her "streak of cruelty" as Shale says) he thinks Flemeth is probably still pulling her strings without her realizing, and also since if Morr does stay free of Flemeth then she might lose control and the OGB could become a wildcard all on her/his own.  I have considered letting Alistair sacrifice himself since my Warden's in a romance and Al doesn't actually want the throne, but I'm not really inclined to pick this one unless something new occurs to me.

So, I thought I'd see what endings other people picked, to maybe help me decide.

Also - it occurred to me that if I have Alistair do the DR, then the OGB would be the *only* child any Fereldan monarch has in any of the endings.  I can't imagine it's a coincidence, but I wonder what the significance is?  Why were they so intent on having no Ferelden prince(sse)s?

[caradoc2000]

DR. The child is just a child (if not, you can always go all King Herod to him).

[mopotter]

Well, since I hate every ending you have with Alistair, the ending I pick is romancing Zev, or Ser Gilmore (if you download that great mod), give Alistair some self confidence (other people refer to it as harding a term I dislike that term a lot) have him Marry Anora and they have a fairly good life together. Then I let Loghain make the sacrifice for the country he loved and my warden goes on with her life.

My male warden does the dark ritual because he loved Morrigan.

[antigravitycat]

First time I played through: Sacrifice, doing the ritual was no solution and more than cowardly. And I didn't trust that complete shrew Morrigan. She even tries to bait you with talk about fame et cetera, pathetic mind. Thinking of her raising a child with the soul of some "god" is perturbing. It may be debatable if it is worth preserving that soul, but I would definitely not give any child into the hands of a person with such twisted ethics, especially not my child.
After finishing the game, being presented with a pretty disappointing endsequence, and in later playthroughs I pick the ritual - simply because it allows me to continue playing with a warden that is not undead. Still wondering why the devs gave the choice at all.

[sylvanaerie]

My 'canon' import I tried to pick selections that might actually impact DA2 and maybe even get my previous game's actions some kind of mention. I chose my Queen Cousland (though she's technically not the game I consider most 'canon') because I am hoping those decisions have the most impact on the continuity. She had Romanced Alistair do the DR (the OGB isn't canon but I figure Morrigan's story isn't finished being told and there is the whole Flemeth connection and Flemeth IS in DA2) and become King and married him (Since I figure Monarch PC's might at least get more mention than GW's), Killed Loghain, Destroyed the Anvil, put Harrowmont on the throne (LOL Yea I know he does a crappy job but I figured more mention might get made of how screwed up Orzammar is than how much things improved), saved the Circle, had Zathrian end the curse, saved Redcliffe using the Circle to do the ritual (Usually I go Jowan's blood magic ritual but that wasn't an acceptable manuever for my HNF).
Also my Queen is the only one I did all the DLC's out to WH with.  She greeted Morrigan as a friend (they had been BFF's before) and I think it went pretty well.  Morrigan left her with a gift and went into the mirror alone (cause no way was my HNF going with her and abandoning Ferelden and Alistair).  I think it's more for those who romance Morrigan anyway but *shrug* I bore her no ill will.
I also plan to try before the release to do a US with an Amell since Hawke is cousin to the Amell in the Tower, and this (died to save Ferelden) might get a mention in DA2.
Considering the way Bioware dropped the ball with continuity in Awakenings (IE only who you chose to rule Ferelden had any kind of mention at all) I don't look for a great deal of what was done to impact DA2 much.
Even Anders' end slide for Awakenings has been tossed into the crapper so not looking for any of her decisions there to have made much impact but for what it's worth, recruited all companions, only Justice 'died' at the keep, Velanna disappeared, Ogrhen lived.  Anders supposedly stayed with the wardens, making it his home ever after (Sheeeeah Bioware he sure did....), Nate saved Teyrn Fergus and got back a bit of land for the Howe's and Sigrun lived, talking about going to the deep roads but WC kept talking her out of it for years after.  Alec the Shepharder became Ser Alec and founded his knightly order.  Saved Amaranthine.  Killed the Architect.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 01 mars 2011 - 03:26 .

[Mustang678]

I did the dark ritual at the time both because I think the US ending was cheap and overdone and because my character was in the palm of Morrigan's hand. Every other playthrough has been DR but the reasons will change occasionally

[Satyricon331]

Thanks for the replies guys! Interesting reading...

sylvanaerie: "Saved Amaranthine. Killed the Architect."

Yeah, that's what I do. I have spared the Architect in a playthrough, but I've always saved Amaranthine. The Awakenings choices are easy for me. (Actually, I've only finished once, but I've long since decided how I'd redo it if ever I gain the wherewithal to slog through DAA again. I've tried.)

Also - was it possible for a non-lover to go through the mirror with Morrigan? Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly since I've only played it once.

[sylvanaerie]

it was a convo choice when I played my Queen Cousland. I didn't select it (of course) but it was there for her.

[war4n0th1n9]

My endings as a female warrior: mary Alistar and force him to sleep with Morrigan. Let the poor guy have some fun he's been a joke the whole game.

[Glorfindel709]

Elf Mage
Orzammar: Bhelen
Magi: Sided with the Mages
Dalish: Sided with the Dalish clans
Redcliffe: Killed Connor, saved Eamon with Urn of Sacred Ashes
Urn: Killed Kolgrim, refused to desecrate the ashes
Landsmeet: Alistair solo king, Loghain executed, Anora locked in the tower
Dark Ritual: Affirmative, PC did it
Archdemon: Totally killed it
~~~~Awakening!~~~
Protected everything best as possible
Companion Quests: Nathaniel, Anders, Oghren.
Vigil: Fully upgraded
Amaranthine: Saved
Architect: Killed it.
~~~~~~~~Witch Hunt~~~~
Eluvian - left with Morrigan

[sylvanaerie]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Elf Mage
Orzammar: Bhelen
Magi: Sided with the Mages
Dalish: Sided with the Dalish clans
Redcliffe: Killed Connor, saved Eamon with Urn of Sacred Ashes
Urn: Killed Kolgrim, refused to desecrate the ashes
Landsmeet: Alistair solo king, Loghain executed, Anora locked in the tower
Dark Ritual: Affirmative, PC did it
Archdemon: Totally killed it
~~~~Awakening!~~~
Protected everything best as possible
Companion Quests: Nathaniel, Anders, Oghren.
Vigil: Fully upgraded
Amaranthine: Saved
Architect: Killed it.
~~~~~~~~Witch Hunt~~~~
Eluvian - left with Morrigan

LOL this made me giggle

[Glorfindel709]

Always happy to entertain

[lx_theo]

Demon child

[Xilizhra]

The Dark Ritual, always.

[TJPags]

I'll be taking King Cousland into DA2.  Yea, I just like playing human warriors.

He put Harrowmont on the throne in Orzemar (can't stand that lying, stealing, fratricide/patricide Belen)
He got Dagna into the mage Tower (he has a soft spot for fast talking, perky dwarven females)
He saved the mages (I don't view that as siding with the mages, btw).
He killed Zathrien (which, as with the mages, is not siding with anyone, it's getting what he needs . .an army)
Killed Isolde to save Connor (I viewed her as the cause of the problem, don't believe it's feasible to get mages from the Tower while nothing bad happens, and hey, she volunteered).
Got mercy for Jowan (sent back to the Tower, not killed - it wasn't his fault, Loghain made him do it)
Found and preserved the Ashes (don't need the reaver spec that bad) but killed Genetivi for silence (not THAT big a fan of religious artifacts)
Spared Avernus to keep working on a cure for thw taint/calling/whatever it is he's doing . . .TJ isn't a scientist, you know . . . .
Spared Loghain and sent Alistair off as a drunk (because I dislike Alistair more than I hate Loghain)
Did the DR (he doesn't believe in dying when living is an option, plus, he was romancing Morrigan until he met Anora and she stole his heart)
Married Anora

Went on to Amaranthine, where, although separated from his beloved Queen, he:

Saved the City and had a fully upgraded keep and army withstand the horde
Killed the Architect (he's a darkspawn, he attacked the Keep, attacked and kidnapped me, killed elves, framed humans, and never explained himself . . . he dies)
Fought with Sigrun, Velanna and Anders to save Amaranthine, while Ohgren, Nathaniel and Justice defended the keep.
Justice died (I hate that rotting corpse) the others lived.
Anders stayed with the Wardens (well, until DA2, anyway . .  .damn rumor and hearsay)
Someone stole his sword, and he suspects Zevran.

He then went on to some makerforsaken part of the Deep Roads for reasons which remain unclear to him, where he killed a Harvester, and let a whole bunch of others free, apparently.  I think he was having a midlife crisis during this episode of his life . . .nothing else explains this.

He then went on a Witch Hunt (mainly, he wanted his Mabari back, but he also wanted to see if Morrigan was actually back)
He found her, had a nice chat, heard he had a son, and waved goodbye as she went through the mirror.

He then went back to Denerim, where he remained until the next crisis that requires his attention . . . probably some invader from Kirkwall who thinks Ferelden owes him something . . . .

[Satyricon331]

I'm curious, TJ, how did Anora steal (do I dare say "romance"?) your character's heart away?

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Anyways, thanks for the replies guys. I reread Fen'Harel's Codex entry and it occurred to me that my character would conclude that elven mythology's other set of gods, the ones hostile to the elves, were probably also the Tevinter gods. Meaning although the OGB would be bad news for the Maker, it would probably also be hostile to the elves, of which my character is one. So, time to die!

Modifié par Satyricon331, 02 mars 2011 - 11:13 .

[HolyAvenger]

Why are you ignoring the Alistair sacrifice and Loghain redemption endings? My canon run is Loghain redemption fwiw.

[caradoc2000]

Glorfindel709 wrote...

Elf Mage
Dark Ritual: Affirmative, PC did it

So in this case the wizard really did it

[Nerevar-as]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Why are you ignoring the Alistair sacrifice and Loghain redemption endings? My canon run is Loghain redemption fwiw.

I´ll probably try to get them in the future, but I go DR because I hate the idea someone´s soul must be destroyed to pay for a mistake/crime someone unrelated made a thousand years before. Loghain is expending his final years recruiting GW in Orlais.

My import:
Male Human Noble, saved the Circle, broke the WW curse, burned Cailan´s corpse, everybody survived in Redcliff, killed dragon cultists but didn´t kill the High Dragon, Bhelen is king, Anvil destroyed, Loghain recruited and Alistar & Anora rule together. In Awakening saved the city with the Keep fully upgraded, didn´t kill the Architect, want to see where that is going.
Followed Morrigan through the Eluvian.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 02 mars 2011 - 06:22 .

[Glorfindel709]

Yes Caradoc, the Wizard did it.

Most specifically, the Maleficar did it

Modifié par Glorfindel709, 02 mars 2011 - 07:30 .

[Satyricon331]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Why are you ignoring the Alistair sacrifice and Loghain redemption endings? My canon run is Loghain redemption fwiw.

Well, for me, it just wouldn't fit my character.  With Alistair slated to take the throne, his life matters a lot more (especially given the negative opinion my character has of Anora).  And at the Landsmeet, my character thinks Loghain would be more dangerous alive than dead, partly since an Anora rebellion would be more viable with him around (why trust him not to interfere?), and also since any discernment or judgment Loghain may have had in his youth appears to have left him (his expectations almost never come to fruition anymore; he embraced slavery; etc.).  Given David Gaider mentions that at the Landsmeet, once you take control the expectation is the Orlesian Wardens will arrive before the Archdemon, Loghain presents my Warden some high costs with little benefit.

[sylvanaerie]

I think I read somewhere someone saying Gaider said (yea I know...rumour upon rumour) that Morrigan hoped the DR would be unnecessary, that she hoped the Orlesians would arrive in time. Something in her expression in WH kind of added weight to that. Something she said...About "what she wanted was unimportant" or something like that...*will have to go redo that scene again*
I really enjoyed my Queen run and look forward to seeing what (if anything) gets transfered over to DA2.

[TJPags]

Satyricon331 wrote...

I'm curious, TJ, how did Anora steal (do I dare say "romance"?) your character's heart away?

~~
Anyways, thanks for the replies guys. I reread Fen'Harel's Codex entry and it occurred to me that my character would conclude that elven mythology's other set of gods, the ones hostile to the elves, were probably also the Tevinter gods. Meaning although the OGB would be bad news for the Maker, it would probably also be hostile to the elves, of which my character is one. So, time to die!

Her voice.  The way she plays with her fingers while we talk.  Those eyes.  She's the only character who's honest with me from the start - no hidden agendas, no lies, no half truths.  She's practical, and decisive.

And she's mine. 

HolyAvenger wrote...

Why are you ignoring the Alistair sacrifice and Loghain redemption endings? My canon run is Loghain redemption fwiw.

Ignoring?  Personally, I'm not ignoring them.

My first PC didn't mind Alistair, hated Loghain.  No way was Loghain going to live.  Subsequent PC's don't seem to like Alistair (which, I admit, could be because I personally find him a whiny, selfish, indecisive idiot ).  Most still strongly dislike Loghain, although one was somewhat indifferent.

But in any event, not one of my PC's could see going off and dying - or having anyone else die, no matter what they felt for them - when there was a way to live.

[PsychoWARD23]

First playthrough as well as canon;

Human Two-Handed Warrior

Redcliffe; Saved Isolde and Connor
Didn't invoke the Right of Annulement
Defied the cult of Andraste
Preserved the ashes
High Dragon dead
Zathrian died and the curse was lifted
Sided with Harrowmont
Destroyed the Anvil of the Void
Accepted Dark Ritual
Leliana as love interest
Alistair killed Loghain
Anora on the throne
Zevran betrayed me, now he's dead
Archdemon dead (obviously)


Awakening:

Architect dead
Saved Amaranthine
Darkspawn Messenger set free
Keep fully upgraded

[akayasha]

On my first playthrough I sacrificed my life to kill the Arch Demon because I wanted the most glorious death possible. My Grey Warden was looked upon as a hero, so it paid off, I think.

In Awakening, I spared the Architect (risky move but I always believe that people deserve second chances, he wanted to try to end the Blights), saved Amaranthine, set the Darkspawn Messenger Free, and fully upgraded the Keep. I helped out all my companions, but I couldn't finish Oghren's personal quest because I had to start the last quest. (Saving Amaranthine)