The only difference would be that they lived in my new play through, Ash might kill me for doing **** with Miranda, but the priiiiize
If the encounter with the kaidan/ash on horizon never happened
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Mylene
, mars 01 2011 11:49
#26
Posté 02 mars 2011 - 01:51
#27
Posté 02 mars 2011 - 04:14
Got sidetracked from the original question.
I don't think it would have affected my ME2 romance decisions one way or the other. But not seeing them at all in ME2 would have been worse, for me, than the rather disappointing meeting I had.
I don't think it would have affected my ME2 romance decisions one way or the other. But not seeing them at all in ME2 would have been worse, for me, than the rather disappointing meeting I had.
#28
Posté 02 mars 2011 - 05:35
Horizon not happening would have changed everything. While I have Shepards that are with Garrus and Shepards that are with Jacob, those gals wouldn't have moved on at all if they hadn't felt as though Horizon was a defining breakup moment. I went into ME2's first play through excited for the chance to see Kaidan again and planning to continue the relationship between he and Shepard. But Horizon's encounter was extremely confrontational. I started to see Shepard as being very hurt by what happened there. And tired of having to bear the weight of the world alone. So I didn't see it as cheating. It was moving on.
#29
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 03:27
well,imo no matter how many shepards you have,how different theri personalities are,how you consider their new romances in me2 as "moving on",how,as some people have argued,reasonable dumping their former LI are since the VS abandoned shep on horizon in the first place,romancing a new LI in me2 is indeed considerd as cheating,not by me,but by BIoware who intentionally set the cheating situation in the first place since shepard couldnt break up with the VS without romancing new LI as i have mentioned above.mopotter wrote...
Mylene wrote...
expanding panic wrote...
It's not cheating you were dead for 2 years everyone moved on. Well they should have. But to answer your question yes, even without that scene I would cheat on both of them
but the problem is they haven't moved on and tho shepard has been dead for 2 years its still only weeks for him /her from the attack of the original normandy. tho shepard and kai/ash had an argument on horizon,but they didn't break up there officially.
if you assume their relationship ended on horizon then why wasn't the photo in your quarters turned down after horizon? the photo can only be turned down once shep romance new LI.
one of my shep did move on after horizon but she still hadn't started a new romance in me2 since none of the 3 new LIs appeals to her but i still get the romance scene before suicide mission.how do you explain that?
my explanation:even tho there's argument between shep and VS(well,actually shep didnt argue with them because she/he became utterly dumb in speech at that moment),VS still love shep(according to the letters) and they didnt break up with shep officially(you dont consider an unrational argument as a statement of breaking up between lovers right?) and shepard should've known that.if shep really want to start a new romance with other people without cheating on the VS,she/he at least should inform VS of this first.otherwise,its still cheating.
1st - This is one area where I think BioWare dropped the ball and it could have been handled better. That said,
the idea you mention, only works if Shepard just has one personality. For me, it doesn't work if you have multiple Shepards with different personalities. There is no one right or wrong emotion for any kind of breakup, argument or misunderstanding between two people.
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so, yes,its Bioware's fault.:alien:you cant fully role play.
#30
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 05:14
Mylene wrote...
to those who romance them in me1:Will you still cheat on them?
i always think bioware did the extremely lame encounter scene which could only appear in those silly soap operas on purpose for the sake of new LI.so,please, prove me wrong.
Given I stayed loyal even after that awful, awful scene on Horizon, I can safely say I'd stay loyal without it.
It might have been easier to "cheat" or "move on" or whatever you want to call it if the game emphasized how much time had passed, or if the VS had found someone else, or whatever.
Mysterious, unreasoning rage, which was an obvious attempt to split Shep and the VS up so a new trio of hotties can be paraded in front of him/her just makes me want to dig my heels in and stay the course.
I won't abandon the VS, even if Bioware has.
#31
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 04:43
Always disliked Kaidan, for being so bland and whiney all the time and for being a sentinel with weak tech and biotic powers, no great loss. As Ash was the only soldier in the team beside shep she was more useful.
I've romanced both characters and I still feel exactly the same way about him. I can understand why people hate Ashley, some might see her as rude, small minded or as a stereotypical strong-woman type of character which is off-putting in-and-of-itself to a lot of people (on screen and even in real life) but to me she is typical of females in the military and she felt more real to me than any of the other human characters. Must every female video game character nowadays look and act like a movie-star?
I accept that people sometimes make irrational choices at times in terms of living their lives by religious dogma or their world-view (which sometimes as in the case of Ashley isn't always their fault) but after getting to know Ashley after originally finding her demeanor unsettling the more I came to respect her honesty and the more I came to realise how open-minded and caring I found she actually was in reality; in the little touches like asking shepard to check on Liara after Noveria. She is anything but a racist, quite the contrary with regard to her thoughts on Tera-firma and Cerberus. I just feel she's clining onto her past but after becoming increasingly detached from it she doesn't really feel that way anymore, which makes her to my mind the most interesting human character.
The problem is you can paragon ashley into an fkaidan in the same way that you can renegade romance kaidan into a mashley and many people haven't explored this option with Ash/Kai in the same way the writters didn't on Horizon and people expected their version of Ashley or Kaidan and not Marc Walters'.
Although I found Horizon was painful to watch with Kaidan deliver those lines; I felt it was quite satifiying as a paragon importing an ashley romance save as the lines fit with the character. I felt it came across that she clearly still has strong feelings for him which is why she's so b****y and grand-standing, yet tearful in an Ash sort of a way while Kaidan's outburst because it was so out of character almost felt as if it came out of nowhere. Now I'm quite looking forward to resolving horizon with her and making Kaidan eat his words so in that respect Horizon was succesful in generating an emotional response.
Edit: I also think you had to be mindful at the time of this being the second act.
I've romanced both characters and I still feel exactly the same way about him. I can understand why people hate Ashley, some might see her as rude, small minded or as a stereotypical strong-woman type of character which is off-putting in-and-of-itself to a lot of people (on screen and even in real life) but to me she is typical of females in the military and she felt more real to me than any of the other human characters. Must every female video game character nowadays look and act like a movie-star?
I accept that people sometimes make irrational choices at times in terms of living their lives by religious dogma or their world-view (which sometimes as in the case of Ashley isn't always their fault) but after getting to know Ashley after originally finding her demeanor unsettling the more I came to respect her honesty and the more I came to realise how open-minded and caring I found she actually was in reality; in the little touches like asking shepard to check on Liara after Noveria. She is anything but a racist, quite the contrary with regard to her thoughts on Tera-firma and Cerberus. I just feel she's clining onto her past but after becoming increasingly detached from it she doesn't really feel that way anymore, which makes her to my mind the most interesting human character.
The problem is you can paragon ashley into an fkaidan in the same way that you can renegade romance kaidan into a mashley and many people haven't explored this option with Ash/Kai in the same way the writters didn't on Horizon and people expected their version of Ashley or Kaidan and not Marc Walters'.
Although I found Horizon was painful to watch with Kaidan deliver those lines; I felt it was quite satifiying as a paragon importing an ashley romance save as the lines fit with the character. I felt it came across that she clearly still has strong feelings for him which is why she's so b****y and grand-standing, yet tearful in an Ash sort of a way while Kaidan's outburst because it was so out of character almost felt as if it came out of nowhere. Now I'm quite looking forward to resolving horizon with her and making Kaidan eat his words so in that respect Horizon was succesful in generating an emotional response.
Edit: I also think you had to be mindful at the time of this being the second act.
Modifié par Guanxii, 03 mars 2011 - 05:33 .
#32
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 06:42
There is/was a 85% chance that I would have remained loyal to Ashley had the encounter on Horizon never took place. Having said that, it is/was very important that I met and talked ( a proper talk ) with my ME1 LI sometime during ME2 after all if they weren't in ME2 at all it would have been alot more difficult to ignore teh temptation to stary.





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