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[Dataminer]

I've tried windowed, high settings, low settings, with vsync (w/o too), etc. The farthest I've reached in the demo is the player creation. I hope this isn't a glimpse of the QA team and what we're going to see in the final release.

Specs:
i7 920 4.0ghz
24gb RAM
570GTX

Modifié par Dataminer, 01 mars 2011 - 04:43 .

[bikeracer4487]

Well, you included your specs but left out your OS...anyways, I'm just going to assume you're running Win7 64-bit, since your rig wouldn't make sense otherwise. Also, godd**n, that's a lot of RAM... Anyways, I have a similar setup, have played through 3 times and played the first bit of the first battle several times under a multitude of settings and I have yet to experience a crash to desktop. My advice is to completely uninstall (I suggest Revo), delete the saves/settings folder (Documents \\ Bioware \\ Dragan Age 2), download a fresh copy of the installer if your connection is up for it, and reinstall. Also, I know there are several other threads regarding crashing, you might want to browse those for a possible solution, as I don't think the crashing is related to the graphics settings. Lastly, I own Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Origins, and Mass Effect 2 and Bioware has yet to release a buggy game so I have faith in them that they will or, most likely, already have, fixed the issues with the demo. Keep in mind that the build used for the demo is several months old so although most of the content is the same, there have likely been major revisions to the code. Hope this helps...

[Dataminer]

Thanks for the help. OS is Win7 64bit

I'm sure next weeks release will be a quality game with great DLC; if not, patches work too

(I own most Bioware games and I haven't been disappointed -- only frustrated heh)

[Dataminer]

Resolution: 1600x900
Widescreen (16:9)
Graphic Detail: Low
AA: Off
Renderer: DX9
Full Screen Enabled
V-Sync: Off
All other 'Disable X" setting not checked.

These setting appear to work for me. Hopefully they may help someone else.

Modifié par Dataminer, 02 mars 2011 - 02:19 .

[Thel Vakarian]

On my computer it says "failed to detect a supported video card." What should I do to fix it?

[RaenImrahl]

Thel Vakarian wrote...

On my computer it says "failed to detect a supported video card." What should I do to fix it?

What video card do you have?  If you have, for example, and Intel graphics chip, you may be out of luck.  Can you post your hardware specs?

[Sourya Cousland]

My PC has a single core 2.0 Ghz AMD processor and the demo ran like a charm...
Does this mean i'll be able to run the full game too?

All I had to do was disable the EA/Bioware intro movie using the configuration tool.

Modifié par Sourya Cousland, 02 mars 2011 - 07:17 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Thel Vakarian wrote...

On my computer it says "failed to detect a supported video card." What should I do to fix it?

The worst possible scenario is that you have a laptop, in which case, the entire machine must be replaced, since modern laptops do not allow graphics upgrades.  Next worst is you have a desktop and either an old / terrible, or a nonexistent graphics card (onboard Chipset video chips do not count as usable devices for support, because they are so slow, weak, and bad).

In that case, you purchase a proper Gaming video graphics card with a "n50" name, and upward, from recent Geforce generations, or a Radeon card with an "n650" and upward (also, if found available, you can use elderly Geforces with "n600" names, such as the 9600 GT). 

Very unlikely, without your awareness from other symptoms, the video card might be failing, but it's a very low probability.

The best possible scenario is that one of the softwares for graphics is broken, and can be easily repaired.  If you do have either an AMD or an nVIDIA graphics CARD, the real thing, not one of their Chipset video chips, that meets the criteria in my second paragraph, the things to deal with, in order of likely difficulty as well as ease of repair are 1.  Graphics Drivers, 2. Direct3D (Dx9), 3. The Demo itself, and 4. the PhysX software version for running on your CPU. 

Uninstall your driver, and reinstall it clean (for nVIDIA, this usually requires using a utility to finish cleaning up behind the uninstall process)..Then retest.  If necessary, go to the next thing, and deal with DirectX.  Retest.  Continue, if needed, until the error message no longer appears. 

Sourya Cousland wrote...

My PC has a single core 2.0 Ghz AMD processor and the demo ran like a charm...
Does this mean I'll be able to run the full game too?

I certainly wouldn't place any large bets on that remote possibility.  I really don't think there is enough variety in the Demo to make it particularly useful for making the judgment.  Your failure to mention anything useful beyond the age, and serious slowness, of your CPU, is also rather uninformative compared to the nature of your question. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 02 mars 2011 - 02:24 .

[Sourya Cousland]

I Know my PC has really poor specs, so no need to rub it in.
OS:Win 7 32-bit
Graphics:ATI Radeon HD 4350 1 GB dedicated
RAM:4 Gigs
But the thing is, DA:O and both of the Mass Effect games ran fine on it.

[Gorath Alpha]

Sourya Cousland wrote...

I Know my PC has really poor specs, so no need to rub it in.
OS:Win 7 32-bit
Graphics:ATI Radeon HD 4350 1 GB dedicated
RAM:4 Gigs
But the thing is, DA:O and both of the Mass Effect games ran fine on it.

Knowing what I know about the HD 4350, the word "fine" is nowhere close to a good description at all, especially for ME1/2, and I do have Windows 7 to tinker with, although not for games, and nothing I have here has a video device as comparatively bad, meaning I can run whatever from Windows 7 I want, short of Dx11 tesselation effects. 

That 4350 should still be running Windows XP, not Windows 7. 

Generational Ladders* (and NTK-based shaders ranking list - "old" class markers)

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/575571

In the years since the two big Gaming Graphics giants began splitting up the pie, and ending up with a four-tier ladder, the lowest discrete graphics card class has actually done very little in the way of overall improvement until the Radeon 5550 came along, but the 5450 was hardly better than your terrible 4350 at all.  Only back in 2006, for a brief moment, with the Geforce 7300 GT, and the X1300 Pro, did it look as if there would be movement. 

Then, from 2006 to 2007, both companies went backward.  HD 2400s were worse than the X1300s, Geforce 8400s were worse than the 7300 GT.  What happened instead is that nVIDIA created a new class of their own in between the bottom cards and the Mainline medium cards, for their 8500, and eventually, AMD took it over with their 5550 / 5570 pair.

You almost certainly will not get anyone who really likes games to agree that you can get by without a graphics upgrade, certainly I won't. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 02 mars 2011 - 03:27 .

[b0ksah]

The Demo is "made" with this settings in mind ...

When you start the launcher go to configure and set the video settings to this
Graphics: medium detail
Render: DX9
V-sync. off

Remember to update your graphic card drivers before hand also ...

Remember to save settings before leaving the configure screen ...

[bikeracer4487]

Sourya Cousland wrote...

I Know my PC has really poor specs, so no need to rub it in.
OS:Win 7 32-bit
Graphics:ATI Radeon HD 4350 1 GB dedicated
RAM:4 Gigs
But the thing is, DA:O and both of the Mass Effect games ran fine on it.

K, first, I was about to defend you and say that Gorath Alpha should just take your word and that maybe you're just running at super low resolutions or something...but I just checked the minimum system requirements for Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 2, and you're below min specs for ALL of them. Hell, ME2 specifically states that the 4350 is below minimum requirements. So, I don't know what your definition of fine is...maybe you're just running the games at like 800x600... But for the sake of anyone reading this topic, your 4350 is most definitely below the min specs for Dragon Age II, and if you have to disable the intro movie to get the game to play, then something is wrong...

Modifié par bikeracer4487, 02 mars 2011 - 04:41 .

[Sourya Cousland]

bikeracer4487 wrote...

Sourya Cousland wrote...

I Know my PC has really poor specs, so no need to rub it in.
OS:Win 7 32-bit
Graphics:ATI Radeon HD 4350 1 GB dedicated
RAM:4 Gigs
But the thing is, DA:O and both of the Mass Effect games ran fine on it.

K, first, I was about to defend you and say that Gorath Alpha should just take your word and that maybe you're just running at super low resolutions or something...but I just checked the minimum system requirements for Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 2, and you're below min specs for ALL of them. Hell, ME2 specifically states that the 4350 is below minimum requirements. So, I don't know what your definition of fine is...maybe you're just running the games at like 800x600... But for the sake of anyone reading this topic, your 4350 is most definitely below the min specs for Dragon Age II, and if you have to disable the intro movie to get the game to play, then something is wrong...

I SWEAR i ran ME2 on 1280x1024 resolution with everything, high quality bloom, film grain, motion blur, dynamic shadows, light environment shadows, spherical harmonic lighting, EVERYTHING on...and i didn't suffer a single incident of frame rates dropping or crashes.
Maybe it still looks better on better graphics cards, but I think Bioware just brags about the min. system requirements.

[SSV Enterprise]

I HIGHLY doubt that you ran it without dropped frames. You must not know what a game played smoothly at a high frame rate actually looks like. I used to play on a laptop with a marginally better graphics card (Mobility Radeon HD 5470) and a much better processor (Intel Core i3 350m 2.26 GHz) at 1366x768, and I would be lucky if the frame rate stayed around 20-25 fps. In some graphically intense environments, such as the Illusive Man's office, it would drop down to an atrocious 10 fps.

Also, in Gorath Alpha's opinion (our resident hardware sage) the minimum requirements for BioWare's games are too low.

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 03 mars 2011 - 07:04 .

[Sourya Cousland]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

I HIGHLY doubt that you ran it without dropped frames. You must not know what a game played smoothly at a high frame rate actually looks like. I used to play on a laptop with a marginally better graphics card (Mobility Radeon HD 5470) and a much better processor (Intel Core i3 350m 2.26 GHz) at 1366x768, and I would be lucky if the frame rate stayed around 20-25 fps. In some graphically intense environments, such as the Illusive Man's office, it would drop down to an atrocious 10 fps.

Also, in Gorath Alpha's opinion (our resident hardware sage) the minimum requirements for BioWare's games are too low.

Maybe that  was because you ran it on a laptop graphics card...but i really mean it when i say the game was absolutely stutter free...and i've played games on some high-end systems(i wish i owned those) so i should know...sometimes the loading times were a bit too long but that's about all the problem that the game caused me.

And i didn't say that the min specs for Bioware games are too high...I just meant that they run on even lower settings than the ones listed.

Modifié par Sourya Cousland, 03 mars 2011 - 07:27 .

[SSV Enterprise]

Sometimes laptop graphics cards are weaker than desktop cards, but not in this case.

(Radeon HD 4350/Mobility Radeon 5470)
Core Clock Speed: 600 MHz vs 750 MHz
Memory Clock Speed: 600 MHz vs 900 MHz
Memory Bandwidth: 8 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s.
Memory Type: DDR2 vs GDDR3

Again, the performance difference is marginal because both use essentially the same core chip (80 stream processors) but whatever performance issues my laptop has should be present and accentuated on your system.  That's not even considering the fact that my laptop runs a semi-decent dual core Intel processor, while your computer has a slow single-core.  Mass Effect 2 should give you problems just for that, even if you had a better graphics card.

Minimum system requirements are just that -- the weakest hardware that is required to run the game.  It's not just what hardware is compatible with the programming of the game.  If that were the case, you could "run" ME2 on an aging integrated Geforce 6150 LE, but you wouldn't get any more than a slideshow out of it, even if you lowered every single setting.

[PSUHammer]

Long story, short...you will need to upgrade your graphics card to properly play DA2.

[basdoorn]

Dataminer wrote...
I've tried windowed, high settings, low settings, with vsync (w/o too), etc. The farthest I've reached in the demo is the player creation. I hope this isn't a glimpse of the QA team and what we're going to see in the final release.

Specs:
i7 920 4.0ghz
24gb RAM
570GTX
Win 7 x64
--------------------------------------------
Resolution: 1600x900
Widescreen (16:9)
Graphic Detail: Low
AA: Off
Renderer: DX9
Full Screen Enabled
V-Sync: Off
All other 'Disable X" setting not checked.

These setting appear to work for me. Hopefully they may help someone else

Were you not by accident running DirectX 11 mode? DirectX 11 is broken in the demo and could easily give you such issues. DirectX 9 mode is working for you, but at far too low settings given your system specifications. You should be able to run DirectX 9 with high settings and high resolution. Can you play games like Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 2 without crashes or other issues? Possibly the problem is not in specifications, but with your cooling or power supply? If you rule all this out, what exactly is happening when it goes wrong: crash to desktop, system hang, instant system reboot?

Modifié par basdoorn, 03 mars 2011 - 01:36 .

[Bims110]

Dataminer wrote...

Specs:
i7 920 4.0ghz
24gb RAM
570GTX

You should be able to beast DA2, Ive got similar, butinferior, specs

i7 920 @ 4GHz
6GB RAM
480GTX

and I can run at 1680x1050 in DX9 on the demo and I average between 80-120 FPS.

Are you sure youre not accidenally running in DX11 (which runs very poor in the demo, I average around 15FPS with it on)?  The demo only allows up to medium graphics settings in DX9, iirc, so keep that in mind as well.

[Dataminer]

I tried DX11 but noticed artifacts so I just assumed it was bugged and moved on. I can run all other games on max settings without dropping framerate. The demo would crash to the desktop at random times throughout gameplay. This rig is 100% stable and this is the only game that it happened to -- fixed that though just at a low gfx setting. I never realized that there were graphical caps for the demo. I just used the config option and manually set the graphics to whatever I wanted (you can put it in Very High even). Anyway, it's not that big of a deal since the game is coming out in less than a week. Hopefully then I can run it completely maxed out

[Dataminer]

The power supply is fine on this rig. It's a Corsair 1200w. If you'd like full specs:

Intel i7 920 D0 2.66 @ 4.00ghz
w/o vDroop: CPU 1.2v, QPI: 1.175v
Video Card: EVGA 570 GTX
Motherboard: EVGA classified 3 (E770)
RAM: G.Skill 1600 24gb (Hex)
PSU: Corsair 1200w

LinPack, Prime95 tested.

[PSUHammer]

You should always read the "README" file with any game for graphic setting suggestions. If you would have for the demo, it would have told you that DX11 and some of the higher settings were disabled or not optimized in the demo.

[bikeracer4487]

Dataminer wrote...

The power supply is fine on this rig. It's a Corsair 1200w. If you'd like full specs:

Intel i7 920 D0 2.66 @ 4.00ghz
w/o vDroop: CPU 1.2v, QPI: 1.175v
Video Card: EVGA 570 GTX
Motherboard: EVGA classified 3 (E770)
RAM: G.Skill 1600 24gb (Hex)
PSU: Corsair 1200w

LinPack, Prime95 tested.

Hey, I recently switched mobo's from an MSI to my current Rampage III but haven't gotten around to overclocking yet. I just noticed your 4 GHz overclock and that we seem to have pretty similar systems and was wondering what kind of cooling you use and what temps you get.

[MingWolf]

Sourya Cousland wrote...

bikeracer4487 wrote...

Sourya Cousland wrote...

I Know my PC has really poor specs, so no need to rub it in.
OS:Win 7 32-bit
Graphics:ATI Radeon HD 4350 1 GB dedicated
RAM:4 Gigs
But the thing is, DA:O and both of the Mass Effect games ran fine on it.

K, first, I was about to defend you and say that Gorath Alpha should just take your word and that maybe you're just running at super low resolutions or something...but I just checked the minimum system requirements for Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1, and Mass Effect 2, and you're below min specs for ALL of them. Hell, ME2 specifically states that the 4350 is below minimum requirements. So, I don't know what your definition of fine is...maybe you're just running the games at like 800x600... But for the sake of anyone reading this topic, your 4350 is most definitely below the min specs for Dragon Age II, and if you have to disable the intro movie to get the game to play, then something is wrong...

I SWEAR i ran ME2 on 1280x1024 resolution with everything, high quality bloom, film grain, motion blur, dynamic shadows, light environment shadows, spherical harmonic lighting, EVERYTHING on...and i didn't suffer a single incident of frame rates dropping or crashes.
Maybe it still looks better on better graphics cards, but I think Bioware just brags about the min. system requirements.

I believe him/her.  I've tried running DA:O on a Radeon 4350 long long time ago and it managed about 1024x768, all sliders right except for AA and ~ 25-30 fps.  Not sure about ME2, since I play it with a totally different configuration, but I've seen videos of the 4350 running it just fine at low res, and from my experience with the game, didn't seem much heavier on the hardware. 

DA2, naturally, is probably a different story. 

Modifié par MingWolf, 04 mars 2011 - 06:10 .

[MingWolf]

Dataminer wrote...

I've tried windowed, high settings, low settings, with vsync (w/o too), etc. The farthest I've reached in the demo is the player creation. I hope this isn't a glimpse of the QA team and what we're going to see in the final release.

Specs:
i7 920 4.0ghz
24gb RAM
570GTX

You've tried different drivers for this, yeah?  That machine should be able to run DA2 on a large TV screen at near max resolutions.