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#26
Sir Edric

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Nah, that was only in the demo.

Or perhaps it will be like that, and the Varric will be like "Oh wait, I think he was black, or was he...?"

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Stanley Woo

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The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.

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Why would the legend make me look ugly instead of my awesome custom Hawke? Makes no sense. Not to mention everytime I want to try out a new character appearance I have to go through the silly intial segment first. That's the one thing I absolutely HATED about ME2.

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Yes is a terrible starting but, we can't do anything about it, I dought anyone will be able to start the game with his already created character.
Thas a -50dkp Bioware.

Side notes, I hope mod's start early :P

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rabidhanar

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But at least in ME2 you never actually see shepards face...only a little bit of hair.

DA2 shows a character that can look NOTHING like my personal Hawke and even Carver and Bethany might look different. Skin color is the most obvious problem...Hawke was a beast while (s)he is white, then when (s)he changes skin color suddenly (s)he is horrible...LOL

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.

I think you guys kind of missed the point of a demo ...

"oh healing sucks, not going to be like that in the game ... wait and try it out"

"oh targeting on the PC sucks for AoEs ... well it works on the XBOX, wait and try it out"

"oh character selection seems like it will be racist ... wait and try it out"

There is no good reason we could not have tried all this out in the demo ...

Modifié par PinkysPain, 01 mars 2011 - 05:40 .


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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.


BUT is it like the demo? thats what make them/us/me a little upset. still -50dkp, no epic loot for you!

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cephasjames

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.

Despite a recent overabundance of complaint threads this isn't actually one of them. Image IPB I'm fine with the choice. I was just wondering.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.

You mean you want us to try it out before complaining about it.  That's crazy talk.

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People did try it out, they tried out the demo ... which is generally meant to be representative of the game.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.


Deal.  Do you want to overnight the game to me, or should I just download it from your internal distribution site?  I'd rather you overnight it, if it's all the same to you.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.


Varric got drunk.
Hawke walks in
Cassandra "I thought you said he was white?"
Hawke "Im Bla-Varric lay off the booze"

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I see nothing wrong with it. People need to learn the difference between, "this is what people say happened" and, "But this is what really happened"

Actually, I think everyone here knows that, they're just complaining because it's not what they want, and if it's not what they want, it's garbage.

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It's there to show the difference between the legend and the real hawke, your hawke. It's a hyperbole.

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rabidhanar

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What is needed to wait till we complain?

If the character creation comes into play after the exaggerated segment of the game like the demo, this issue shall still continue...I shall play as a character I have not created, they call this character Hawke...then when Varric changes his story the same name of Hawke is given to my personal character. The exaggerated character can be an entire different race as my personal Hawke, yet they say that the two of them are the same character? What is unavailable to hate?

If they changed the location of the character creator in game to before the CGI scene and the CGI matches my character I shall be happy...if not I will still feel detached from my Hawke as he will not look the same as the exaggerated Hawke.

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Hawke's kinda like Jesus, people start wondering whether he really was white :P. But seriously, I'm fine with this. Gender obviously would be impossible to get wrong, and for all we know this Hawke is the viewer's imagination speaking, not Varric's (if he didn't give a skin tone it would be assumed that he's the major ethnicity).

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rabidhanar wrote...

What is needed to wait till we complain?

If the character creation comes into play after the exaggerated segment of the game like the demo, this issue shall still continue...I shall play as a character I have not created, they call this character Hawke...then when Varric changes his story the same name of Hawke is given to my personal character. The exaggerated character can be an entire different race as my personal Hawke, yet they say that the two of them are the same character? What is unavailable to hate?

If they changed the location of the character creator in game to before the CGI scene and the CGI matches my character I shall be happy...if not I will still feel detached from my Hawke as he will not look the same as the exaggerated Hawke.


^This. I didn't play the demo so I didn't know this happened..it really doesnt seem to make much sense to me.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.


tried it, didn't like it. can see the sense in doing it that way though, but I'd kill for an option to customise at the very beggining, you could still have it default to default Hawke if you don't tick that option

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Oblivionous wrote...

I guess it can and does happen where legends are concerned, but you think they'd (the ones spreading the legend) would at least get one attribute of (custom) Hawke...


Human. Male/Female. Warrior/Mage/Rogue. Two eyes. Two ears. Two arms. Two legs. Ten fingers. Ten toes.  Mage sister/Warrior Brother. Fought darkspawn outside Lothering during the Blight. Slew an Ogre. Aided by a dragon. There.  You've got your "at least" and then some.

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I fail to see the issue. In the beginning Varric is making things up, then he changes it to the truth. What does it matter that the made up Hawke and the real one look different? The first one isn't "real", you are playing a "fabrication" of Varric's imagination.

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Naitaka

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In terms of either role playing or convience, this new system is a terrible idea. And to think they did it because they don't want players from a certain demography to get bored by the lack of "action" at the beginning of the game just makes me cringe. It's especially bad for people like me who want their custom Hawke to look perfect. Without being able to edit your morph in the toolset, I probably have to go through the initial section dozen of times before I can even start playing the game.

Modifié par Naitaka, 01 mars 2011 - 06:07 .


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rayvioletta wrote...
tried it, didn't like it. can see the sense in doing it that way though, but I'd kill for an option to customise at the very beggining, you could still have it default to default Hawke if you don't tick that option

The problem is prerendered CGI.

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I don't see why it would be a problem, its more of a short tutorial. You'll probably never see that "special" Hawke again. Its not like its "special" Hawke taking down Flemeth (please let her be a boss), its just an exaggerated, simplified version of what really happened.

Plus, they first gave us this http://na.llnet.biow...a-1280x1024.jpg
but then changed her to an olive toned skin.

I'd take everything with a grain of salt until your play the retail copy of the game.

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Machines Are Us wrote...
I fail to see the issue. In the beginning Varric is making things up, then he changes it to the truth. What does it matter that the made up Hawke and the real one look different? The first one isn't "real", you are playing a "fabrication" of Varric's imagination.

So why does he get so much right, but the ethnicity wrong? He thinks white people are more heroic?

I understand the technical reasons, but I don't understand this in game justification ...

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Stanley Woo wrote...

The way we've chosen to do character creation in Dragon Age II is a little different than what you may be used to, but I think it works fine. Try it out and see what you think of it.


Tried it -- hated it.


I don't know what it buys you really.
Folks who want to jump right into the action in games just hit default, default and start.
So the only thing gained by this method is saving two button clicks for those who want to start the action.
Those who don't are force to play 5 minutes with not their character.


If you wanted to hide the numbers until later, then put up the face creation screen first, do the exaggerated scene and then put up the stat screens.
That would have gotten folks right into the game without forcing them to play 5 minutes with not their character.

I'm a huge BioWare supporter and am really enjoying a lot of the changes, just not this one.


Alodar :)