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#701
Ryzaki

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Quething wrote...
No no,  you're missing one thing. He's white.

And if there's one thing Western culture likes to tell us, it's that that makes someone very special indeed.

TV, comics, video games, they all make it quite clear that people of color can't really be heroes. Not the big important heroes. Maybe like, Blade, or some third-stringer like that who most people have never heard of, but not Buffy or Spider-Man or any Space Marine ever (default Shep included).

Dragon Age 2 is just carrying on that fine and important tradition and reminding nonwhite video game fans that they shouldn't get their hopes up about anyone ever thinking they could be awesome.


I...doubt they saw it like that. 

Though it is pretty odd when they go out of their way to avoid the Cousland incident by changing you family's skin color to match your own but do that legendary Hawke thing regardless. 

But no I don't think it was trying to put people down or anything. They just got a little too happy shoving their defaults in people's faces. <_<

Modifié par Ryzaki, 03 mars 2011 - 04:53 .


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Quething wrote...

TV, comics, video games, they all make it quite clear that people of color can't really be heroes. Not the big important heroes. Maybe like, Blade, or some third-stringer like that who most people have never heard of, but not Buffy or Spider-Man or any Space Marine ever (default Shep included).


Green Lantern John Stewart is pretty mainstream. So is Storm from X-Men.

There are others, of course, but those are pretty high up there in the superhero hierarchy.

#703
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Double post. Derp.

Modifié par Sarielle, 03 mars 2011 - 04:54 .


#704
Ryzaki

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Ryzaki wrote...

And Saibh I am disappoint. I said I was trolling you a page ago.

Anyways Lulz.

I'm going to put you on the list.  I'm not sure which the list, but it's one of them.


The list of awesome? ;)

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Saibh

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Quething wrote...
No no,  you're missing one thing. He's white.

And if there's one thing Western culture likes to tell us, it's that that makes someone very special indeed.

TV, comics, video games, they all make it quite clear that people of color can't really be heroes. Not the big important heroes. Maybe like, Blade, or some third-stringer like that who most people have never heard of, but not Buffy or Spider-Man or any Space Marine ever (default Shep included).

Dragon Age 2 is just carrying on that fine and important tradition and reminding nonwhite video game fans that they shouldn't get their hopes up about anyone ever thinking they could be awesome.


Imagine an African.

Was he black?

Well, if you're asked to imagine a Fereldan, he'd probably be white.

#706
Quething

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Ryzaki wrote...

Quething wrote...
No no,  you're missing one thing. He's white.

And if there's one thing Western culture likes to tell us, it's that that makes someone very special indeed.

TV, comics, video games, they all make it quite clear that people of color can't really be heroes. Not the big important heroes. Maybe like, Blade, or some third-stringer like that who most people have never heard of,
but not Buffy or Spider-Man or any Space Marine ever (default Shep included).

Dragon Age 2 is just carrying on that fine and important tradition and reminding nonwhite video game fans that they shouldn't get their hopes up about anyone ever thinking they could be awesome.


I...doubt they saw it like that. 

Though it is pretty odd when they go out of their way to avoid the Cousland incident by changing you family's skin color to match your own but do that legendary Hawke thing regardless. 

But no I don't think it was trying to put people down or anything. They just got a little too happy shoving their defaults in people's faces. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]


Thing is, they didn't have to mean it like that for that to be the effect it has. If you toss an apple core out the window of your third-story office, you don't have to mean for it to hurt someone for it to hit some poor passerby on the head. Unintended consequences are still consequences and can still cause problems.

Sarielle wrote...

Green Lantern John Stewart is pretty mainstream. So is Storm from X-Men.

There are others, of course, but those are pretty high up there in the superhero hierarchy.


Yeah, but that was when he was part of an ensemble cast. They're doing the live-action Green Lantern movie about Hal Jordan.

Modifié par Quething, 03 mars 2011 - 05:03 .


#707
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Not about DA2 anymore.


LOCKDOWN!



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