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[Mlaar]

At face value you would assume that Seb and the desire demon are working together, I believe the demon is more his hidden foe, toying with him, feeding his desires for revenge when all along it is her that destroyed his family.
Since im getting SE i'll have access to him but personally I think he should be available to all without people needing to pay for him, games cost enough these days as it is without paying extra for content that is already designed and implemented before release. I dont mind DLC after release as that feels like it is extending and enhancing the game but not content already created thats tacky and cheap and imho belittles the paying customer (heres the game but now we are going to squeeze you for all you've got)

[LPPrince]

Aww, you guys. *feels glomped*

To bring this back to Sebastian, I wonder if he'll be more like me and Alistair, or more like a Prince who's in power.

Me- Prince, Heir, and Descendant of a Royal Sikh Warrior Family. Keyword-Warrior. My family was never the ones with millions and millions of dollars sitting there. So I'm not rich.

Alistair- Bastard Prince and Heir to the throne of Fereldan. His father's side had to have tons of money, but being who he was, he had no access to it. So Alistair's not rich.

Sebastian- Prince and sole surviving Heir to.....something. Is he rich? Is he not?

What would you prefer?

I think I'd like Sebastian more if he actually did have access to lots of sovereigns.

[ACDimps]

did bioware suddenly add eye-movement since the demo? People in these cutscenes actually MOVE their eyes! they dont just stare blankly ahead like in the demo!

I am very optimistic not crazy about the way he spins everything around, but that's DA2 for ya :-P

[LPPrince]

Damn it ACDimps, now you're gonna make me watch the video again.

[Rompa87]

Hm. The fact that he's some sort of clergy, or chantry-related profession, leads me to believe that he originally was far removed from the dealings of his family. Perhaps his family sent him to the chantry for an honorable education since he was not in line to inherit the wealth, due to elder siblings? An "exile" of sorts.

I'm also curious as to whether he's from a princely or a royal family. There aren't that many kingdoms to chose from, is all I'm saying

Modifié par Rompa87, 02 mars 2011 - 12:37 .

[Black_Warden]

Yojimboo wrote...

I am cool but common do you really belive that Sebastian couldn't make it into the final build under no circumstace? I already told you i thought it was fine with Shale but common 3 times in a row? Shale Zaeed and now Sebastian? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

Black_Warden wrote...

The content on the disc for any game is finalized 6-8 months prior to launch, at which point nothing may be added or removed without resetting that process. Sebastian + his quests were not finished in time for that content lock, as such, adding him into the main game would have resulteded in the game being delayed. i have heard (admittedly unconfirmed) reports of Exiled Prince content being worked on as recently as mid-february, which means for Seb to have been put in the game, DA2 would have had to have been delayed until roughly October.

extra comment: Pre-DLC days, content that was not finished in time for content lock was simply left on the proverbial cutting room floor. Be appreciative of the work that goes in to preparing this additional content, as, if DA2 had been released not so many years ago, Sebastien would have been little more than an abandoned bit of concept art as far as we're concerned.

[LPPrince]

If he's a Prince, that makes him royalty. Doesn't mean he's got to be related to the Queen of Orlais or anything. Its one step above being a noble.

But yeah, where? Probably some place we haven't heard of yet. I expect a lot of new things from DA2.

[Black_Warden]

I predict that Prince Vael is aquainted with everyone's favorite stoic boy, young master Howe.

[Rompa87]

LPPrince wrote...

If he's a Prince, that makes him royalty. Doesn't mean he's got to be related to the Queen of Orlais or anything. Its one step above being a noble.

But yeah, where? Probably some place we haven't heard of yet. I expect a lot of new things from DA2.

Yes, but there are principalities where both the ruler and the male family members are known as 'princes'. Hence 'princely' rather than 'royal'

I think that this might be more plausible. The Free Marches are a collection of city states. Seems possible that one of these are/was ruled by Seb's family

[JustS]

LLPrince, you are right with many points..but you have to look beyond this being justifiable because people need to get paid.

You want to say customers have no right.. but they have every right to demand what they like. It may make little to no difference but they do have the right.

As for it getting cut, then being added later is all up in the air. The fact with this is that it makes the game look bad when DLC is offered before the release. Its a turn off to many people. They see this and they think, "well this game is not done why should I go out and pay $60.00 for a game that is not finished and I have to pay more to get everything.." It gives a headache for the marketing department.. they have to spin it and spin it to quell all the bad press.

I agree that these devs deserve money for their hard work. But what makes people angry is that games not long ago were $50, and had more content than some games coming out today.

I wish all the best to Bioware, and I am getting the game for sure. My main point is that this leave a bad impression.

[LPPrince]

Black_Warden wrote...

I predict that Prince Vael is aquainted with everyone's favorite stoic boy, young master Howe.

I fully expect to see Nathaniel Howe in DA2, so having some interaction between him and Sebastian would be really nice.

[Black_Warden]

I'll adress one thing here, then leave the rest to stand as i personally don't feel like comenting on perception vs fact.

JustS wrote...

You want to say customers have no right.. but they have every right to demand what they like. It may make little to no difference but they do have the right.

Customers have absolutely no right or basis to demand anything. You (the general you, not you specifically JustS) have no stake in the development of the game, you stand to make no financial profit from it's success, you have zero connection to the creative or technical processes. Your demands are made out of ignorance and hold no weight. you are free and, at least on these forums, encouraged to voice your opinions and concerns, but you do not have any right to demand anything.

[Black_Warden]

LPPrince wrote...

Black_Warden wrote...

I predict that Prince Vael is aquainted with everyone's favorite stoic boy, young master Howe.

I fully expect to see Nathaniel Howe in DA2, so having some interaction between him and Sebastian would be really nice.

High social station, family murdered/ made pariah, vague aura of badassness, interest in shooting sharp things into soft things.... they certainly have enough in common to form a friendship, i think.

[LPPrince]

Black_Warden wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Black_Warden wrote...

I predict that Prince Vael is aquainted with everyone's favorite stoic boy, young master Howe.

I fully expect to see Nathaniel Howe in DA2, so having some interaction between him and Sebastian would be really nice.

High social station, family murdered/ made pariah, vague aura of badassness, interest in shooting sharp things into soft things.... they certainly have enough in common to form a friendship, i think.

I'd say so.

[Rogue-Element]

Awesome, love his va, the Scottish Alec Newman.

[LPPrince]

That's why I've always got to remind people that his accent is Scottish, not Irish.

[Black_Warden]

LPPrince wrote...

That's why I've always got to remind people that his accent is Scottish, not Irish.

So he's from Ireland then?

[Knal1991]

the demon thing makes him THAT more awesome imo, I mean imagine him and Anders in the same team.... I seriously hope theres some interesting interaction between them...

EDIT : totally kills my party setup though, I mean Mage hawk, Anders, Vael, Fenris is a bit too much ranged...

Modifié par Knal1991, 02 mars 2011 - 01:26 .

[LPPrince]

Knal1991 wrote...

the demon thing makes him THAT more awesome imo, I mean imagine him and Anders in the same team.... I seriously hope theres some interesting interaction between them...

EDIT : totally kills my party setup though, I mean Mage hawk, Anders, Vael, Fenris is a bit too much ranged...

Fenris is a Two Hander. Its not like you're bringing Varric with you in his stead.

[JustS]

Black_Warden wrote...

I'll adress one thing here, then leave the rest to stand as i personally don't feel like comenting on perception vs fact.

JustS wrote...

You want to say customers have no right.. but they have every right to demand what they like. It may make little to no difference but they do have the right.

Customers have absolutely no right or basis to demand anything. You (the general you, not you specifically JustS) have no stake in the development of the game, you stand to make no financial profit from it's success, you have zero connection to the creative or technical processes. Your demands are made out of ignorance and hold no weight. you are free and, at least on these forums, encouraged to voice your opinions and concerns, but you do not have any right to demand anything.

I think you are confusing the word "right" with something else. I have the right to go in a store and demand that they replace my cheeseburger because its cold. Do they have to replace it? No. Do they have to do anything? No. They change your favorite meal at a restauran you have been coming for years.. do you have a right to complain? If you feel what has been done to you is unjust.. you do. 

You are looking too far into the word as if I say I had the right to go to the office and change things myself. Demanding something is not the act of being owed something. Remember a right is..........

 a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral..

If you pay for a product.. or you are a loyal customer.. you from your own perspective have a just claim.. even if it is not a LEGAL right. And in some cases it can be legal if the customer was lied to in any way(which this is NOT the case what-so-ever)

Past this, my main point was.. its not good practice and it makes DA2 team look greedy when they are not(my opinion) and are just trying to do the best they can and make a living off it. 

P.S. I cannot wait to play in 6 days... ughhh :-p 

[Cless Godhard]

Prince of what country?

[Knal1991]

LPPrince wrote...

Knal1991 wrote...

the demon thing makes him THAT more awesome imo, I mean imagine him and Anders in the same team.... I seriously hope theres some interesting interaction between them...

EDIT : totally kills my party setup though, I mean Mage hawk, Anders, Vael, Fenris is a bit too much ranged...

Fenris is a Two Hander. Its not like you're bringing Varric with you in his stead.

No but having three of four characters being a ranged one, is a bit over kill on that... At first  decided (quite reluctantly) to bring Isabela with me as another close up fighter... but the whole Sebastian/ Demon + Anders/Spirit thing is a bit too good to pass on...

Or offcourse I have to change my own class >_>, 2nd playthrough planned on having an archer though and othe third on being a warrior....

decisions , maybe I shouldn't meta game with DA2, I didn't with origins and that worked out quite well....

[Thicos]

EVERYBODY FOLLOW ME

CALL TO DESIRE DEMON PLAYABLE

:happy:;)

[Matroska]

JustS wrote...
Past this, my main point was.. its not good practice and it makes DA2 team look greedy when they are not(my opinion) and are just trying to do the best they can and make a living off it.

I know where you're coming from. Also, when content gets magically "unfinished in time for release" in this fashion, an increasing trend which completely coincidentally seems to be increasing along with the acceptance of DLC, it's not the developers' choice, it'll be the publishers. Look at the cluster**** of greed and exploitation of customers that is Dragon Age Legends - you see a good, fun game obscured by thousands of EA's grubby, greedy fingerprints to the point where you feel like you're just been taken for a ride.

[Amirantha]

Actually this prompted me to look over at amazon again, someone mentioned the sig ed is still available and not only from third partys for 20+ bucks more than originally... and yes *dance* there it is... stopped my normal pre-order and ordered the sig for 46Euro... Hello my prince, welcome home

Modifié par Amirantha, 02 mars 2011 - 02:48 .