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#326
Sylvius the Mad

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0rz0 wrote...

Well the devs said that there's all shapes and sizes of dual daggers, I'm sure there will be something sword-ish, too.

I'm still hoping for something mace-ish or hammer-ish.  But I'm not optimistic.

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In DA2 demo there's at least one mace. It's restricted for weapon + shield warrior style, though.

Modifié par tmp7704, 02 mars 2011 - 10:01 .


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Well weapons work a bit different know, with daggers always coming in pars for example so there could be a pair of "daggers" withe a mace/hammer look usable only by dual wielding rogues, i very much doubt it though.

Modifié par Leonick91, 02 mars 2011 - 10:15 .


#329
TheConfidenceMan

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Are there traps to set? I hate that the utility class is now just another combat class.

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Can't wait to play a rogue, hoping that there are bigger versions of the weapons used in the Super Hawke scene. Hawke with Warglaives FTW.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaive

Those are not glaives.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 02 mars 2011 - 11:25 .


#332
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Vieuxcruex wrote...

Rouges are over-powdered


Best.  Comment.  Today. 

:lol:


(Yes, I know you wrote it yesterday.  But I had to give you props.)

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99krogas wrote...

same here im really more interested in archer so far then rouge..


Same thing.

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I Tsunayoshi I

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Jzadek72 wrote...

99krogas wrote...

same here im really more interested in archer so far then rouge..


Same thing.


Ditto. Archer has always had more interest for me for Rogues though I am considering a DW Rogue sometime after my canons as an alternate if I keep hearing good things about them based on the full games. The Demo leaves so much for me to consider a canon Rogue.

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Jzadek72 wrote...

99krogas wrote...

same here im really more interested in archer so far then rouge..


Same thing.


Demo Archer was awesome. Maybe it's the flexiblity of a tank + ranged dps party. Maybe it's the absurd aoe you get (firestorm + fireball + 2 * Volley and Explosive bolt is pretty nice). But I facerolled the demo like nothing else as an archer.

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Aradace wrote...

It's called Flourentine Style and a style Im rather familiar with myself.  Im no master mind you but Im no slouch either lol.


Heh - is that another crack about rouges being overpowdered?

FWIW, it's Florentine.  As in, from the city of Florence.  Mind you, I've been to Florence a fair bit, and it's all a big lie - people there eat with knives and forks, just like the rest of us.

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I Tsunayoshi I

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Blastaz wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

99krogas wrote...

same here im really more interested in archer so far then rouge..


Same thing.


Demo Archer was awesome. Maybe it's the flexiblity of a tank + ranged dps party. Maybe it's the absurd aoe you get (firestorm + fireball + 2 * Volley and Explosive bolt is pretty nice). But I facerolled the demo like nothing else as an archer.


As hard as I rolled as an Archer almost made me call myself a Huntard.

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I'm surprised no one liked the Dual wield rogues. I liked them a lot. I loved backstab, and while yes archers were awesome, after that portion I switched back to dual wield so I could backstab.

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"IMO the changes were mostly about perception. People who thought rogues were weak fighters just didn't know how to build a rogue." - Addai 67

This. I for one love rogues. Face stabbing FTW

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Will there be legendary/ultimate bows this time around? Seemed like only swords got love in Origins.

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VillainZ wrote...

Will there be legendary/ultimate bows this time around? Seemed like only swords got love in Origins.


Did you not ever play as a Rogue before. There were some pretty OP bows in DAO and DAA. Forget the uber Sorrows or Arlathan DLC bow.

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Sora Kitano wrote...

VillainZ wrote...

Will there be legendary/ultimate bows this time around? Seemed like only swords got love in Origins.


Did you not ever play as a Rogue before. There were some pretty OP bows in DAO and DAA. Forget the uber Sorrows or Arlathan DLC bow.


For real haha I had some amazing bows. I beat the archdemon with a bow actually.

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Can rogues steal or make poisons? I like to role play a variety of different rogues, not all of which are weapon masters...

#344
I Tsunayoshi I

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JoshPloof wrote...

Sora Kitano wrote...

VillainZ wrote...

Will there be legendary/ultimate bows this time around? Seemed like only swords got love in Origins.


Did you not ever play as a Rogue before. There were some pretty OP bows in DAO and DAA. Forget the uber Sorrows or Arlathan DLC bow.


For real haha I had some amazing bows. I beat the archdemon with a bow actually.


Thats because a good archer can bring the pain damn quick with a bow. Sorrows claimed the Archdemon. Heartwood claimed The Mother, the Harvester, and the Varterral.

I just hope we dont get another weapon made for the purpose of being exploited for a glitch via DLC again.

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bluewolv1970 wrote...

Can rogues steal or make poisons? I like to role play a variety of different rogues, not all of which are weapon masters...



Can definitely steal. I'm sure there'll be poison making although I haven't seen it yet, but it was a huge part of me surviving in DA:O so it better be in DA2

#346
I Tsunayoshi I

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I doubt poison making is going to be around since they have a talent based to using a preset poison/agent.

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Graunt wrote...

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Balanced build for DW dagger? Con? Will? NEVER!

Min Max DPS glass cannon for live...!! Fragile melee character is fun to play anyways.


PREACH!


And then explode in one hit as the "other" melee class next to you pretends he's PvPing.  I won't be playing a melee Rogue for my first Nightmare playthrough that's for sure.  So if I'm going to be forced to bring one along it will be an Archer...not that they are too terribly exciting either, but at least I won't have to babysit as much.

When I do end up playing a melee Rogue, I'll probably have two in the group.


Well it all depends on the equips really. My backstabber I am doing in DAO again doesn't have a single point above the base ten con and she does just fine. If/When she takes any hits, the lifegiver ring is a godsend and keeps her going long enough to quickly smite that fool while my ass off, lolz.

Nightmare in DA2 is gonna be a **** though, I'm going to have to revamp my whole style of play. Often times my backstabbers are right next to the tank in the battle so I can keep clearing the enemies off it with my high damage so it won't die and will hold aggro, if I do that in DA2, the tank will kill me, lolz. Well if I use Fenris as a tank at least, Aveline might not be so bad but I don't see the point. It'd be easier to still use high AoE damage 2H Fenris and just use an archer rogue and mages from a distance. In theory at least, I reserve the right to change my mind when the game comes out. Posted Image

#348
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I just finished a quick archer play-through in the demo, holy beejezuz, great improvement.

Modifié par NKKKK, 03 mars 2011 - 04:08 .


#349
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NKKKK wrote...

I just finished a quick archer play-through in the demo, holy beejezuz, great improvement.


Using DAA as the standard for the high dex builds that came up since consoles were really screwed in that regard, Archers feel even more powerful now than they did in Awakening with stuff like Aim and Weak Points.

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Now if only we had bowstrings...