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[chester013]

I'm actually a big fan of Overlord (Hammerhead notwithstanding) the oppressive creepyness of entering that base for the first time, piles of corpses, those security cams following you and (on the first playthough at least) not making out what that AI is screaming at you.

As you advance you slowly piece together the story and then after a pretty intense fight presented with the rather horrific truth. "Overlord" goes from being this omnipresent threat to a person that couldn't be more vulnerable. Well written stuff in my opinion.

Anyways, seems David just wants it to end to me and has no idea what's been done to him and why. Having met people with symptoms across the autism spectrum, you can see in some cases even slight deviations from an individuals comfort zone can cause so much stress adn I think BW dealt with it well.

[Praetor Knight]

^ agreed

[I will kill you both]

Slayer299 wrote...

I will kill you both wrote...
Exactly you are giving killing machines to a guy with no human emphaty...are you sure YOU understand how foolish this is?  People with AS are basicly like little kids, violent and unable to understand reasoning.  (They throw fits all the time)  NOTHING you said makes sense. AT ALL. 

Ignorance is not a virtue, especially in your case!

Um yes it is. http://en.wikipedia....drome#Mechanism
http://www.aspergers...ssyndrome.org/  ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png
Asperger syndrome (AS) is a neurobiological disorder that is part of a group of conditions called autism spectrum disorders. The term "autism spectrum" refers to a range of developmental disabilities that includes autism as well as other disorders with similar characteristics.

Yes genius, it is autism. I said it was not a standard form of autism since AS allows the individual to function at what is considered at an adult level as opposed to standard autism where the individual's function varies but is generally impaired with their ability to communicate their needs, understand others, deal with friends, family and strangers in an appropriate fashion in addition to the host of other issues they may have.

Whatever makes you feel better and helps you sleep kid.

That isn't really my opinion on the disorder;it is but a definiton.
It's on many books of mental disorders based on many proffesional opinions not from a bleeding heart that does not accept reality.  Either you know somebody with the disorder or you yourself are a "sufferer" that lives in denial.  It is sad how some cards are played laid out and how some people are born without the ability to comprehend the simplest things, but I will not appologize for my first comment which I think you should read and get off your high horse!

How in the HELL did I offend you by saying it wasn't smart to put a aspie in control of the geth, specially one that was tortured by his brother?  I mean did you even play the dlc and saw what happened?

Know what? I don't care what you think on the subject you just can't see. My words are but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT.

Modifié par I will kill you both, 05 mars 2011 - 10:16 .

[TuringPoint]

I will kill you both wrote...

I just want to know... what's with the name?  Sociopathic much?

[Praetor Knight]

Alocormin wrote...

I will kill you both wrote...

I just want to know... what's with the name?  Sociopathic much?

  wait, what did I miss?



Edit: well, I guess I did upon closer reading

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 05 mars 2011 - 10:41 .

[I will kill you both]

Alocormin wrote...

I will kill you both wrote...

I just want to know... what's with the name?  Sociopathic much?

This was an old joke username from another website mainly done so that I could register my ME2 game. (launch date btw)  Or something like it.  It holds no meaning to me.  Is my explanation clear or am I on trial again for not sharing your opinion?

[Samwell]

Geth Pulse Rifles are not permanently attached to the Geth unit.

Why the **** would you leave the Geth test subjects with weapons? Or leave them around for the Geth to pick up?

The scientists may have had a better chance if the geth were unarmed. It seems like no-one else has noticed this MASSIVE oversight.

[Samwell]

Damnit, hit the wrong button, double post.

Modifié par Samwell, 05 mars 2011 - 12:09 .

[Smeelia]

Samwell wrote...

Geth Pulse Rifles are not permanently attached to the Geth unit.

Why the **** would you leave the Geth test subjects with weapons? Or leave them around for the Geth to pick up?

The scientists may have had a better chance if the geth were unarmed. It seems like no-one else has noticed this MASSIVE oversight.

The Geth seem to be good at building them quickly with any available materials though, they also did so on the Alerei (although there may have already been a few there).  There were also other weapons around such as turrets and drones and the Geth could have used the weapons that the security forces had until they could build their own.

[Slayer299]

I will kill you both wrote...

That isn't really my opinion on the disorder;it is but a definiton.
It's on many books of mental disorders based on many proffesional opinions not from a bleeding heart that does not accept reality.  Either you know somebody with the disorder or you yourself are a "sufferer" that lives in denial.  It is sad how some cards are played laid out and how some people are born without the ability to comprehend the simplest things, but I will not appologize for my first comment which I think you should read and get off your high horse!

Cutting and pasting one 2-sentence paragraph on AS doesn't say you understand what it is or that you know the disorder. Or are you claiming to be a professional who deals with autistic individuals? You're quote was just a short intro into AS and where it is classified, not its symptoms or anything else, that hardly counts as a definitive definition of either autism, autism spectrum disorders or AS.

How in the HELL did I offend you by saying it wasn't smart to put a aspie in control of the geth, specially one that was tortured by his brother?  I mean did you even play the dlc and saw what happened?

So this quote below isn't you from page 2 and you weren't yelling? Did I play Overlord? Yes and the ending was very good too! I was saying that you cannot call someone with AS (not an "aspie" as you put it.) 'a violent, unreasoning child with no emotions' since it is wrong. Period. The fact that it drove David crazy had less to do with him having AS (Or whatever it was specifically and that being not overly relevent in the scheme of things) as opposed to the fact that his mind could not take the information overflow from everything he was plugged into.

Exactly you are giving killing machines to a guy with no human
emphaty...are you sure YOU understand how foolish this is?  People with
AS are basicly like little kids, violent and unable to understand
reasoning.  (They throw fits all the time)  NOTHING you said makes
sense. AT ALL. 

Know what? I don't care what you think on the subject you just can't see. My words are but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT.

Actually you just can't think at all and that just sums it up.

Modifié par Slayer299, 05 mars 2011 - 04:59 .

[I will kill you both]

Slayer299 wrote...
I was saying that you cannot call someone with AS (not an "aspie" as you put it.) 'a violent, unreasoning child with no emotions' since it is wrong. Period.

No isn't.   Prove it to me.  It's funny how you are defending the mary sue in this topic when there is nobody to defend as well.  You keep "insulting" (hardly) my intelligence to feel better about what? You think I can't see through you?  I can think quite clearly and without BIAS; unlike you.

Modifié par I will kill you both, 05 mars 2011 - 07:07 .

[Ty2011]

He wanted it to stop.

[Slayer299]

I will kill you both wrote...

Slayer299 wrote...
I was saying that you cannot call someone with AS (not an "aspie" as you put it.) 'a violent, unreasoning child with no emotions' since it is wrong. Period.

No isn't.   Prove it to me.  It's funny how you are defending the mary sue in this topic when there is nobody to defend as well.  You keep "insulting" (hardly) my intelligence to feel better about what? You think I can't see through you?  I can think quite clearly and without BIAS; unlike you.

OKay, last time, having AS does not make you a 'violent, unreasoning child with no emotions'. Period. Here's the information for some symptons from the Mayo Clinic and Asperger Syndrome Definition,  AS Symptoms when you go there (if you do) actually read the entire page, not just 3 sentences in, because it'll tell you very clearly that AS are not violent children as you seem to believe.

I'm done talking about this with you, I have stated facts about AS, I have backed it up with information from accredited sites on the subject (not a wikia) and you are sticking to your misguided view and continuing this discussion is pointless since it is entirely one-sided.

Have fun claiming your "victory".

[I will kill you both]

Slayer299 wrote...
you are sticking to your misguided view and continuing this discussion is pointless since it is entirely one-sided.

I'll say you never answered my questions on why you are so inclined to defend the AS. (Denial)  Are you one of those parents?  Don't even get me started on their innavility to understand not to stalk people or innapropriately touch others or their man child fits of rage... Yeah...we are done talking.

Modifié par I will kill you both, 05 mars 2011 - 08:36 .

[TuringPoint]

I will kill you both wrote...

Slayer299 wrote...
I was saying that you cannot call someone with AS (not an "aspie" as you put it.) 'a violent, unreasoning child with no emotions' since it is wrong. Period.

No isn't.   Prove it to me.  It's funny how you are defending the mary sue in this topic when there is nobody to defend as well.  You keep "insulting" (hardly) my intelligence to feel better about what? You think I can't see through you?  I can think quite clearly and without BIAS; unlike you.

I wonder if you may not be an AS child yourself.  You seem to think everyone else is shouting at you when they're not, which may be a symptom. 

The "devil" can whisper, too, you know.  I daresay temptation comes from such whispering - not the shouting of a child, or the crying of a baby; as loud as a baby may be, it is still innocent of its behavior.  Shouting back at the baby or manchild or suffocating it to death or ensuring it has no rights doesn't solve or prove anything.  

I am sorry if you have a child with AS who does those things, but not every child with AS is the same; and those with severe AS or autism are as likely to hurt themselves as hurt others.  In fact, I doubt you have as much experience with that spectrum of disorders as I do, having gone to college with numerous professors and even some students with experience with such things, and having family experience with the disorder as well.

A majority of those with AS do not do the things you mention, and frequently seem normal or even go undiagnosed for most of their lives.  It is a spectrum of disorders, not a matter of just "you have it or you don't."  There is a strong difference between someone at the Autism end and someone at the AS end of the spectrum, or who is basically normal.  Wikipedia says this if you bother to read it.

There are many better sources of information about AS and autism spectrum disorders out there which you would discredit by pointing at and misrepresenting what wikipedia says.  It may be more accurate to say that those with AS or autism disorders have trouble matching their behavior with cultural and behavioral norms.  They also tend to be less full of crap than you seem to be, in fact quite inappropriately diligent with their facts at times.

It's not acceptable for anyone to touch another inappropriately, or to have fits of rage, but those things can be dealt with or redirected productively in someone with severe AS, or someone who is not intelligent enough to recognize other human beings compassionately.  Most who have AS are too preoccupied with their own nerdy or savant-ish thoughts to bother anyone else too greatly, which is reason enough to challenge the assumption that someone who has AS lacks any empathy.

Your opinion is unjust to many human beings.

Modifié par Alocormin, 06 mars 2011 - 06:55 .

[TuringPoint]

I will kill you both wrote...

This was an old joke username from another website mainly done so that I could register my ME2 game. (launch date btw)  Or something like it.  It holds no meaning to me.  Is my explanation clear or am I on trial again for not sharing your opinion?

This response doesn't suggest you aren't sociopathic, just that you have a joke username.  Your username is inappopriate in its implication that murder is amusing, which is some cause for concern from someone with such supposedly high moral standards relative to "aspies" as you call them.  

Correct me if I'm wrong, though - by all means.

Modifié par Alocormin, 06 mars 2011 - 07:01 .

[Nodscouter]

This may be off-topic, but I'm getting the feeling most people here took the Paragon path in the mission.

Modifié par Nodscouter, 06 mars 2011 - 10:56 .

[zer0netgain]

I did both...Paragon first.

The Renegade path makes little sense in light of Legion and what you learn from him. If anything, I'd think David's ability to communicate with the Geth would be better served in creating a way to effectively communicate with them as a race.

[Homey C-Dawg]

David just wanted to curl up in a corner and count numbers like he's been doing all his life.

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 09 mars 2011 - 12:35 .