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#26
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Dominator24 wrote...

7 $ And who ever preordered signature edition will get it free and sig ed. costed the same as normal so yeah, he was more like a promotional item to boost preorder sales imo and to tell the truth it worked on me :) . At least its not like the stupid exclusive dlc that you can only get if you buy in gamestop or something.

This

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So, in your view they are only allowed to work on the game. They are not allowed to have a team work on DLC and have it ready to go at launch. Seems pretty narrow minded. If you do not like DLC, ignore it. You do not need it to play the game. Those of us who enjoy it will buy it and encourage Bioware to keep at it.


Besides, if you were like me and many others, you would have gotten the Exiled Prince DLC for free with your preorder. Your fault if you missed it.

Modifié par VanDraegon, 01 mars 2011 - 11:24 .


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SirRaphael wrote...

:ph34r:[inappropriate post removed]:ph34r:


Guys, is this the sort of thing we should report? Not for being an insulting jerk; that's expected. I mean the priacy promotion.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 01 mars 2011 - 11:43 .


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Maconbar wrote...

Is that the DLC that I got for free?


Yes.In fact, i guess OP is jealous of those who preordered more than pissed off about DLC at release.
I could be wrong though.

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sorry for create a new thread next time i don´t do that, but glad i see people that have the same bad taste in the mouth when this things happen, i love bioware but this is facking lame IMO

i could not preorder and now i have to pay :(

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johannes1212 wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

If DLC didn't exist, The Exiled Prince would have just been an idea that didn't make the cut.


You're talking about content that is released simultaeneously ALONGSIDE the game, if it is content that didn't make the cut you'd think they would release it weeks or even days after the original release...In this case, the content did 'make the cut' its just a case of 'EA wanting to squeeze customers dry' you know this is true, I know this is true, so why deny it? out of loyalty to Bioware? Please just accept the straight facts.


By 'simultaneously alongside the game' you mean several months after the game was finished? DLC content can be made available in a week. It takes months to create and ship enough copies of a finished game. It's more efficient to use that dead time on DLC.

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johannes1212 wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

If DLC didn't exist, The Exiled Prince would have just been an idea that didn't make the cut.


You're talking about content that is released simultaeneously ALONGSIDE the game, if it is content that didn't make the cut you'd think they would release it weeks or even days after the original release...In this case, the content did 'make the cut' its just a case of 'EA wanting to squeeze customers dry' you know this is true, I know this is true, so why deny it? out of loyalty to Bioware? Please just accept the straight facts.


Separate team, separate budget, and the full game has a strict deadline. I have no loyalty to Bioware, but I'm not completely ignorant as to how game development works. Or maybe I am? Doesn't matter, I'm getting the Signature Edition.

The only thing that I think is completely out of hand is the sheer amount of promotional DLC.

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johannes1212 wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

If DLC didn't exist, The Exiled Prince would have just been an idea that didn't make the cut.


You're talking about content that is released simultaeneously ALONGSIDE the game, if it is content that didn't make the cut you'd think they would release it weeks or even days after the original release...In this case, the content did 'make the cut' its just a case of 'EA wanting to squeeze customers dry' you know this is true, I know this is true, so why deny it? out of loyalty to Bioware? Please just accept the straight facts.


You do know that it's easy to model a character but to actually texture/animate, model the environment and devolop his sidequests/companion and story interactions/ etc... it takes time right? They can announce he will be free for those who pre-ordered and show a little pic of him and have none of his side quests done or environments modeled,etc...

Modifié par Mymph, 01 mars 2011 - 11:27 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

SirRaphael wrote...

:ph34r:[inappropriate post removed]:ph34r:


Guys, is this the sort of thing we should report? Not for being an insulting jerk; that's expected. I mean the priacy promotion.

Go for it.  Let the mods figure if it's harmless talk or not. 

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 01 mars 2011 - 11:44 .


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"The game was not been released and we have DLC !!!" = This game has not been released and we already have DLC! (I hope its right because my english isn't that well)
And to the topic..nothing to say I get it for free because I preorderd the Signature Edition. :)

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SirRaphael wrote...

:ph34r:[inappropriate post removed]:ph34r:



Advocating piracy on the official forums. Not your smartest move.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 01 mars 2011 - 11:44 .


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Nonoru wrote...

Maconbar wrote...

Is that the DLC that I got for free?


Yes.In fact, i guess OP is jealous of those who preordered more than pissed off about DLC at release.
I could be wrong though.



you mister are wrong , jealous ???? you must think i am a 11 years old boy or something...

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SirRaphael wrote...

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That wasn't a smart move.Reported.

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Well the DLC was never planned to make it into the game. And it is a rip-off. Simple as that. Reason I am playing the game without. Actually it is sort of modern legal piracy. So I find it rather funny if companies complain about people pirating their products if they are actually not doing much better. Anyway, not saying piracy is good or that I would ever do it. But it's always the same. If people feel their goverment cheats on them, they will try to cheat on their government. If they think a company cheats on them ... same thing. That's why companis or governmens should at least try to be subtle about it. Releasing a DLC together with the core game is not really sublte.

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johannes1212 wrote...

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

If DLC didn't exist, The Exiled Prince would have just been an idea that didn't make the cut.


You're talking about content that is released simultaeneously ALONGSIDE the game, if it is content that didn't make the cut you'd think they would release it weeks or even days after the original release...In this case, the content did 'make the cut' its just a case of 'EA wanting to squeeze customers dry' you know this is true, I know this is true, so why deny it? out of loyalty to Bioware? Please just accept the straight facts.


I kind of got to agree, though I think it is EA's meddling to do this. Besides, they did this with Shale back in Origins. Just that you had to purchase the golem if you didn't get the game new (lucky me). Sadly if Bioware said is true, we won't get the Ultimate Edition so it is unlikely we will get the DLC new in the future... Thankfully I preordered SE.

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cloudstrife070 wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Maconbar wrote...

Is that the DLC that I got for free?


Yes.In fact, i guess OP is jealous of those who preordered more than pissed off about DLC at release.
I could be wrong though.



you mister are wrong , jealous ???? you must think i am a 11 years old boy or something...


Then if you are an adult(which doesn't seem to be the case), you must be able to afford 7 bucks ? Or just don't buy it ? It's only one character.No need to whine.

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Well, Bioware´s a company like any other. EA as well. They both want our money. So why not suck a little extra money from us? I think i´ll get the spec edition, not sure.. either way, personally i dont like the thing with releasing DLC the moment a game releases.. but i´d probably do the same in their position.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Well the DLC was never planned to make it into the game. And it is a rip-off. Simple as that. Reason I am playing the game without. Actually it is sort of modern legal piracy. So I find it rather funny if companies complain about people pirating their products if they are actually not doing much better. Anyway, not saying piracy is good or that I would ever do it. But it's always the same. If people feel their goverment cheats on them, they will try to cheat on their government. If they think a company cheats on them ... same thing. That's why companis or governmens should at least try to be subtle about it. Releasing a DLC together with the core game is not really sublte.


...Most of the opening DLC is free and i'm takin' it. :happy:

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It's not like they are the first company to do this. Just something else for people to **** about

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Well there was such a thing as pre ordering DA2 back a few months ago before January 11th and it was announced even a month or 2 ago before the deadline that you could pre order it early to get it...

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People need to understand that modeling, texturing, scripting, animating, rigging all takes time. Would you rather they rush it and give you a PoS character that looks bad, moves bad has no personality and is boring? When you don't understand the complexity of it read up on it or just stay quiet.

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I just wish they had an actual collector's edition instead of a limited pre-order window. I waited too late and have to buy the D.L.C. I'm a little bitter about it but life goes on.

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Carlthestrange wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Well the DLC was never planned to make it into the game. And it is a rip-off. Simple as that. Reason I am playing the game without. Actually it is sort of modern legal piracy. So I find it rather funny if companies complain about people pirating their products if they are actually not doing much better. Anyway, not saying piracy is good or that I would ever do it. But it's always the same. If people feel their goverment cheats on them, they will try to cheat on their government. If they think a company cheats on them ... same thing. That's why companis or governmens should at least try to be subtle about it. Releasing a DLC together with the core game is not really sublte.


...Most of the opening DLC is free and i'm takin' it. :happy:

If it's free I am taking it too. I don't complain about DLCs in general or that they cost money though. Just the timing is rather odd since it ... just looks bad.

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It's getting abused, yes. That is expected. But in the long run, DLC can enhance the lifespan of games that you finished. Which is a nice modern addition to gaming.

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NeroSparda wrote...

I kind of got to agree, though I think it is EA's meddling to do this. Besides, they did this with Shale back in Origins. Just that you had to purchase the golem if you didn't get the game new (lucky me). Sadly if Bioware said is true, we won't get the Ultimate Edition so it is unlikely we will get the DLC new in the future... Thankfully I preordered SE.


Well, Shale is a little different. The devs have said that Shale had been planned for the game, but was buggy. The release delay let them turn Shale into DLC. Without the delay Shale might have showed up as paid DLC later. Without DLC Shale would have just been cut, like so many things from every RPG ever released.

In Sebastian's case, Bio always knew that they were going to do Day 1 DLC. The budget for him was the budget for Day 1 DLC. So, no Day 1 DLC, no Sebastian.