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Mymph wrote...
People need to understand that modeling, texturing, scripting, animating, rigging all takes time. Would you rather they rush it and give you a PoS character that looks bad, moves bad has no personality and is boring? When you don't understand the complexity of it read up on it or just stay quiet.
If you mean that some people don't believe everything they get told I agree.DSerpa wrote...
Mymph wrote...
People need to understand that modeling, texturing, scripting, animating, rigging all takes time. Would you rather they rush it and give you a PoS character that looks bad, moves bad has no personality and is boring? When you don't understand the complexity of it read up on it or just stay quiet.
I think you're expecting too much from the internet.
JohnEpler wrote...
Except this isn't what we're doing. This isn't something we've ever done, at any point. I know many people are convinced that whenever we mention any kind of DLC that's released near the on-disc product that it's stuff we just tore out of the main game to sell for an extra price, but that's not true. DLC of any sort is budgeted and worked on in a completely separate fashion from the main game. For the most part, we need to be completely locked down content-wise a good two or three months in advance. More is preferable, of course, but there's a minimum of at least a month and a half.
Anything and everything that's worked on as PRC is both budgeted and worked on completely separately from the main game. Sometimes, the timelines intersect a bit - writers tend to be done with the game a little sooner than anyone else, so they've got some downtime to write dialogue and such. But we've never gone in and stripped something from the main game just so we could sell it after the fact. As it is, most of our projects end up in a lot of 14 hour days and long weekends at the office just so we can finish what you're actually getting on the disc. Nevermind extra content for us to cut so we can later repackage it and resell it. That just doesn't happen.
Of course, I work for the company, so I'm certain some people wouldn't believe me if I told them rain is wet. That's their prerogative! For the rest, though, I figured I'd chime in and dispel some of the fears.
JohnEpler wrote...
Except the decision isn't between 'do we release this as DLC' and 'do we put it on disk', but rather 'do we release this as DLC' and 'do we not release it'. We do not have unlimited time and resources. We cannot simply put every piece of content we can think of on-disc, as it's not being completed during the development process. There is, simply, never enough time to do everything you want to - otherwise, if you decide to add every bit of content you can think of to the on-disc product, you're never going to release your game.
It's fine if you don't believe me, or don't agree with me - that's cool! Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. But at this point, it seems obvious that debating this with you is pointless, and so I will withdraw from this discussion.
Modifié par drahelvete, 01 mars 2011 - 11:40 .
Covi wrote...
It's a strategy to prevent used sales. The software industry thinks they are special and that we are not allowed to sell our property, oh sorry licenses. That's why they butcher used copies with release-day dlc.
Modifié par Dr. Nexas, 01 mars 2011 - 11:48 .
Dr. Nexas wrote...
I think the issue here is not that there is Day 1 DLC, but that you had to pre-order it 2 months in advance. With Shale and the Cerberus Network, everyone got it free if they bought it new. It didn't matter if you pre-ordered 6 months in advance, walked into a store Day 1, or bought it months later. But the limited time offer on the Signature Edition kinda screws over the casual fans who don't regularly follow gaming news.
IrishSpectre257 wrote...
If DLC didn't exist, The Exiled Prince would have just been an idea that didn't make the cut.
Modifié par DM Veil, 02 mars 2011 - 12:25 .
Darkhour wrote...
IrishSpectre257 wrote...
If DLC didn't exist, The Exiled Prince would have just been an idea that didn't make the cut.
Or it would have been on the disk like everything else.
It's to make more money. That's what businesses do. I can accept that. But since BIoware don't have the balls to admit this I can only assume that they feel it is an unethical practice. With that in mind I loathe them for it, not because milking more money is necessarily shady, but because they think it's shady and do it anyway.
cloudstrife070 wrote...
this is making fun of the fans just to suck 10 or 15 more dolars.
Modifié par druplesnubb, 02 mars 2011 - 12:23 .
Nonoru wrote...
Couldn't implement the character in time.
And it's free for those who preordered before january.
OSUfan12121 wrote...
Because they didn't have time to put it in the full game? Companies do have an area now devoted entirely to DLC while the other team works on the game. Just because the DLC comes out the same day as the game doesn't mean debs had the time to program it into the full game.
Achromatis wrote...
OSUfan12121 wrote...
Because they didn't have time to put it in the full game? Companies do have an area now devoted entirely to DLC while the other team works on the game. Just because the DLC comes out the same day as the game doesn't mean debs had the time to program it into the full game.
Lol it surprises me people still believe **** like this. When they did it once for DAO, ok maybe. But then again for ME2 and now DA2? Yeh it must just keep slipping their minds.
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