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So, DA2 is definitley cut half in length compared to DAO


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TwistedComplex

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In other news, CDprojekt announced that The Witcher 2 will be shorter than the first, but when they make a game shorter, it's fine, cause that's how RPG fans are

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TheEgoRaptor

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Wow, 60 hours of game play, I got ripped off with my 17 hours then.

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TC, those numbers far exceed those of Jade Empire. I'm certain they also exceed KOTOR and ME1/2.

The original Dragon Age had a rediculously long development time. DA2 on the other hand could have used a little more. But these numbers shown for DA2 look rather good for the time they spend on it. Certainly better then 99% of all other games out there.

You hold Bioware up to a standard they, and they alone, created. Few other wRPG can live up to this 'bioware standard'. So you wont get DA2 until the ultimate edition is out. Yet you will get other games such as The Witcher 2 and Dues Ex:HR I think?Or you will simply buy no games at all? Because I'm certain no game can compete with the DA:O figures.

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MitchDragonage wrote...

Guys are you serious? 40 hours compared to 60 hours is nothing...It all depends on if you take your time and how you play it. If you rush through on easy mode in Origins, skipping dialouge, it will be probably 14 hours long.


couldn't say it better origins for me = 14 hours rushed or 27when doing slow pace with a little skipped talking
done all side quests 2

Modifié par Tezzajh, 02 mars 2011 - 08:41 .


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First and foremost is that in DA:O we had a lot of Origins stories which all of them contained a lot of Dialogue.

Second: Does that news post take in consideration things like Awakening, Warden's Keep, Return to Ostagar, Stone Prisoner and Witch Hunt?

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SnipingNewb wrote...
hmm just becuase some of those numbers are smaller doesnt mean anything.


Yes, it does. It means the game is smaller. Which is a bad thing. More than that, the fact that DA2 has a lower proportion of actual words and characters but a higher proportion of cut-scenes, means that even in the reduced length, it is less of a game where I am in control, and more of a movie where I sit back and watch.

Thank you to the OP for sharing the numbers. Good to know.

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I don't think those statistics are correct. They probably added in the DLC for DA:O, but not DA2.

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Johnsen1972 wrote...

Naw I dont want to be a troll.


And yet you do it so well.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

First and foremost is that in DA:O we had a lot of Origins stories which all of them contained a lot of Dialogue.

Second: Does that news post take in consideration things like Awakening, Warden's Keep, Return to Ostagar, Stone Prisoner and Witch Hunt?


Nope.

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I'm currently working on a playthrough that stands at 66 hrs with just the four treaty areas--I have barely touched Denerim, and I haven't bothered with the pointless fetching quests from the mages collective and the sort. DA:O has a lot of content, so long as one doesn't rush it. With that in mind, I have to say that as long as DA2 has similar depth, a notional shortened campaign length doesn't bother me.

Now, having 40% the wordcount is distressing, but... well, we'll just have to see.

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Protip: Never take other people's "Total Gameplay" stats into account. More often than not they are wrong, be it longer or shorter. DAO for me was much shorter than 60 hours, my average being around 20.

Lesser dialogue doesn't matter, as it appears there is more than double the cinematic.

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Soooo when is 40 hours half of 60? do you know your basic math?

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TwistedComplex wrote...

In other news, CDprojekt announced that The Witcher 2 will be shorter than the first, but when they make a game shorter, it's fine, cause that's how RPG fans are


Have thye really? :D

Whats its reported length?

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CharliePrince wrote...

you kidding me? that's amazing :D 2,500 cinematics compared to a miniscule 1,000 for DAO

DA2 completely blows away DAO in my eyes :D you know what it means?


That I would spend more of my time watching cutscenes in DAII, rather than actually controlling my character?

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Costin_Razvan

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You could easily spend 100 hours in the first Witcher. I know I did so myself in my 2 playthroughs

Was long, but quite very satisfying for me to play even if I only did it twice.

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Morroian wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

In other news, CDprojekt announced that The Witcher 2 will be shorter than the first, but when they make a game shorter, it's fine, cause that's how RPG fans are


Have thye really? :D

Whats its reported length?


I dont know the exact length, but they said they're taking out the mundane side quests.

Which is EXACTLY what Bioware is doing, but when Bioware does it, it's cause they're pandering to console kids
When The Witcher does it, it's the best RPG in the history of FOREVARZZZZ

Same thing with the combat systems

Somehow Witcher fans consider DA2 combat to be hack and slash, but when the witcher combat consists of unending spaming of the left mouse button, it's the best RPG combat in FOREVARZZZZ

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 02 mars 2011 - 10:58 .


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ok, well....if they claim DA:O was 60 hours, but it took you 20 hours, does that mean that the claim of 40 hours for DA2 will mean its only going to take 13 hours and 20 mins for those same people? Its got to be said that if they have padded the DA:O numbers, the chances are they padded the DA2 numbers as well, meaning its probably going to take a LOT less than 40 hours for some people.

However you look at it, no matter if your play times match those posted or not, you are looking at a lot less play time in DA2 than in DA. Is that a bad thing? Depends if you put quantity over quality, and I for one cant judge the quality until I have the game.

Modifié par Kovnic, 02 mars 2011 - 11:03 .


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They want it to be more like Mass Effect it seem but don't worry, if you want a longer lasting RPG then wait for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

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Alaric123 wrote...

Wow, 60 hours of game play, I got ripped off with my 17 hours then.

Sounds like you rushed the game and played on easy, my first run was 59 hours but i didn't do everything but did not rush, when i tried rushing it i did in 20 hours but rushing the game isn't even fun so why would you do it?

Best to enjoy your games, rushing makes the game so un-interesting.

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I think I finished the first one in...40 hours. Round about.

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LightningSamus wrote...

Alaric123 wrote...

Wow, 60 hours of game play, I got ripped off with my 17 hours then.

Sounds like you rushed the game and played on easy, my first run was 59 hours but i didn't do everything but did not rush, when i tried rushing it i did in 20 hours but rushing the game isn't even fun so why would you do it?

Best to enjoy your games, rushing makes the game so un-interesting.

i only spent 34 hours not rushing.
I played on normal.
95% compelte
I was not slow as a snail though.
I knew immediately which items to sell and which to use.
I knew quickly how I wanted my characters to be.

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DAO didn't take me 60 hours to complete, so I'm just going to take a wild guess and say that 40 hours of gameplay in DA2 is a liberal estimate as well.

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Johnsen1972 wrote...

http://360.mmgn.com/...horter-but-More?

Dragon Age: Origins
 •  1,000,000 Words
 •  1,000 Cinematics
 •  1,000 Characters
 •  56,000 Spoken Lines
 •  60 Hours of Gameplay


Dragon Age II
 •  400,000 Words
 •  2,500 Cinematics
 •  500 Characters
 •  38,000 Spoken Lines
 •  40 Hours of Gameplay

I probably should sell my preordered Signatur Edition on Ebay and wait for the Ultimate Edition. Im definitley dissapointed. I really hope they wont cut ME3 in half and sell it for the same money. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

So in a day and age where most games are 10 hours or less somehow 40 bothers you?

And IMO this is a good move. DAO was too long. There was a lot of stuff that could have been cut out. Fade and a large part of the Deep roads for example. And that is coming from a guy who beat Origins over 15 times.

Modifié par atheelogos, 02 mars 2011 - 11:19 .


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DA:O 1,000,000 words - 16,667 per hour
1000 cinematics - 17 per hour
1000 characters - 17 per hour
56,000 spoken lines - 933 per hour
60 hours of gameplay

DA2 400,000 words - 10,000 per hour
2,500 cinematics - 63 per hour
500 characters - 13 per hour
38,000 spoken lines - 950 per hour
40 hours of gameplay

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Johnsen1972 wrote...

http://360.mmgn.com/...horter-but-More?

Dragon Age: Origins
 •  1,000,000 Words
 •  1,000 Cinematics
 •  1,000 Characters
 •  56,000 Spoken Lines
 •  60 Hours of Gameplay


Dragon Age II
 •  400,000 Words
 •  2,500 Cinematics
 •  500 Characters
 •  38,000 Spoken Lines
 •  40 Hours of Gameplay

I probably should sell my preordered Signatur Edition on Ebay and wait for the Ultimate Edition. Im definitley dissapointed. I really hope they wont cut ME3 in half and sell it for the same money. Image IPB


Don't worry, they're planning to sell the other half of DA2 in bits and pieces as DLC.