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[Veex]

Seems like casual difficulty would be more the OP's speed, but they've the right to not purchase a product for whatever reason they choose. You don't have to be fully informed or aware of something to make a decision about whether to purchase it. It isn't necessarily wise of a consumer, but hey, it happens.

[danabe]

The hostility in this thread is strong indeed.

[Ziggeh]

asaiasai wrote...
While i was happy in that i finally beat the ogre in the demo i was not happy with the way i was forced to do it.

Haha, "forced".

Not sure if serious.

[AlexXIV]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

I bet we'll see another one of these threads the day just before the game is released

I'll make an 'omg why didn't I cancel my preorder?' thread after release.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 02 mars 2011 - 02:10 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Ugh, some of the responses in threads like these remind me of why I hate internet forums. The disconnect of type makes everyone so freakin' rude to one another. The OP has valid opinions, in fact everyone has valid opinions, that is why they are opinions...not facts. I'm not terribly impressed with quite a few of the changes in DA 2 either. It is hard to judge a final product by a demo but if you have to buy the final product to try it out, then you are supporting something you had doubts about in the first place so it's a catch twenty-two.

Not everyone has to have the same opinion, and forums don't exist only for yes-men. Criticism is good if constructive.

[AkiKishi]

Ziggeh wrote...

Haha, "forced".

Not sure if serious.

Forced works if that was only way they could continue the demo.

Approaching combat like you would in DA would get you killed, unless you pause an awfu lot. Like I've seen some PC gameplay videos that are 6 minutes of pausing and 4 minutes of movement to finsh that part of the demo.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 02 mars 2011 - 02:13 .

[hangmans tree]

F! me, look all you kids here
And I thought this game was for MATURE audience.
Someone expresses concerns in well put, coherent text, with manners and all but there goes the whiplash.
All the kkthxbye, go away, never come back, dont let the stairs... etc etc.

I guess there are people and there are door knobs. Heh.

[Elsariel]

asaiasai wrote...

Playing the demo i was unable to beat it with a mage class until i ran around the entire time kiting the ogre in one very large circle until the rest of the party finally killed the ogre. All that i had to do was enough DPS to continue to draw the ogre's aggro while the rest of the party killed it. While i was happy in that i finally beat the ogre in the demo i was not happy with the way i was forced to do it. Running around in a big circle for 5 to 10 minutes was not entertaining,

Asai

Holy cow.  It took you 5-10 minutes to kill the ogre using a mage? 

You're doing it wrong.

[0x30A88]

EDIT: Oops -- thought it was the preorder being cancelled thread. Sorry.

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 02 mars 2011 - 02:22 .

[outlaw1109]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Ugh, some of the responses in threads like these remind me of why I hate internet forums. The disconnect of type makes everyone so freakin' rude to one another. The OP has valid opinions, in fact everyone has valid opinions, that is why they are opinions...not facts. I'm not terribly impressed with quite a few of the changes in DA 2 either. It is hard to judge a final product by a demo but if you have to buy the final product to try it out, then you are supporting something you had doubts about in the first place so it's a catch twenty-two.

Not everyone has to have the same opinion, and forums don't exist only for yes-men. Criticism is good if constructive.

The point of the trolling if you missed it in previous pages:

IT's okay to post your opinion in the appropriate thread/forum. To create a new thread for something that already has one is going to attract the bridge dwellers. IE, if I wanted to post my opinion of Lady Gaga's newest video in the Dragon Age II general discussion forum, I would be spammed.

Modifié par outlaw1109, 02 mars 2011 - 02:17 .

[AkiKishi]

Elsariel wrote...

Holy cow.  It took you 5-10 minutes to kill the ogre using a mage? 

You're doing it wrong.

That's pretty much what happened to me the first time. I loaded Beth with the heal/protect spells. It was an Ogre plus 4 or 5 spawn.

[Elsariel]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Elsariel wrote...

Holy cow.  It took you 5-10 minutes to kill the ogre using a mage? 

You're doing it wrong.

That's pretty much what happened to me the first time. I loaded Beth with the heal/protect spells. It was an Ogre plus 4 or 5 spawn.

I did the same my first time.  Gave Bethany all the healing spells and forgot she went bye-bye so I had to do healing using potions.  I swear it didn't take 5-10 minutes, though. 

[Ziggeh]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Approaching combat like you would in DA would get you killed, unless you pause an awfu lot. Like I've seen some PC gameplay videos that are 6 minutes of pausing and 4 minutes of movement to finsh that part of the demo.

I paused a lot in Origins, so that comes naturally. But you can be pretty sloppy provided you don't stand melee in front of the dude, tank things with your backside and or let the smaller spawns run amok. And use abilities I guess.

I can see it being a bit harsh if you're unfamiliar with the combat mind.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 02 mars 2011 - 02:23 .

[Icy Magebane]

Horrible tactics... you could at least learn how to play before giving up. Whatever.

[HyperLimited]

I'm sorry you feel that way OP. However it's completely your fault for having to run around in circles in the first place. I played this as a mage and had no trouble. Is Aveline taunting enemies? She can take the beating during that fight. You don't need to run around and kite the ogre. She'll probably only need one or two healing potions, and there's plenty to pick up beforehand. Just have her tank while you and Carver take out the hurlocks, then kill the Ogre.

[rogue_assassin]

Sticky Controller wrote...

Why does everyone think they need to make a thread about why they cancelled a pre-order?

Completely agree. No one cares what you choose to do or not do. I cringe every time I read a topic "Why I am not going to buy this game" or "I'm leaving these forums, and here's why".

Write it in your diary...

[Coldest]

Sticky Controller wrote...

Why does everyone think they need to make a thread about why they cancelled a pre-order?

[Veex]

asaiasai, if you're still lurking and don't mind sharing I'd be interested in knowing what difficult you played Origins on?

[soteria]

rogue_assassin wrote...
Completely agree. No one cares what you choose to do or not do. I cringe every time I read a topic "Why I am not going to buy this game" or "I'm leaving these forums, and here's why".

Worse: they never seem to actually leave. It's just grandstanding.

[PinkShoes]

Nobody cares you are cancelling your order, seriously people stop making threads about this. But people do care when you make a reasonable argument why you didnt like the game (there is also a thread for that but oh well)

You can be a healer but in the actual game you cant in the demo because, well, its a demo. If you cant defeat the orge on the demo be more tatical in your approch. Think about where you will place your party members and manage your health in you stats as well as your magic. In orgins it started off the same thing with healers, you couldnt be a healer at the start of the game until level 7.

Also, sometimes the smartest move is to run away so you can be at a better advantage.

Anyway  i hope you get the game at another time because it does look like a good game.

[Matroska]

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

Ugh, some of the responses in threads like these remind me of why I hate internet forums. The disconnect of type makes everyone so freakin' rude to one another. The OP has valid opinions, in fact everyone has valid opinions, that is why they are opinions...not facts. I'm not terribly impressed with quite a few of the changes in DA 2 either. It is hard to judge a final product by a demo but if you have to buy the final product to try it out, then you are supporting something you had doubts about in the first place so it's a catch twenty-two.

Not everyone has to have the same opinion, and forums don't exist only for yes-men. Criticism is good if constructive.

The reason people are being hostile is that the OP's opinions weren't all opinions, they were stated as facts and they were wrong. He/she was complaining about the lack of a healing mage, despite there being a dedicated skill tree. This is like someone saying they cancelled their pre-order of Mass Effect when they found out there were no guns, aliens or spaceships. The OP's statements that were actually opinions weren't stated as such, and were given in an insulting way. For example, some may prefer the slowler, less exciting shuffles of the DA:O combat animations because they feel they're "more realistic" (just like all the real sword fights they've been in, I'm sure) but the OP didn't come out with that statement, they just said the new animations are "honk kong chop suey flick combat animations", utterly failing to spell Hong Kong right in the process.

So this is less like someone earnestly stating their humble opinion only for the internet rabble to descend on them, and more like someone coming up to you at a party and saying "I was going to buy that t-shirt until I realised only a ****got would wear it" and then you say "**** off". It's how it goes...

[packardbell]

The mage was the easiest freakin class in the demo. If the ogre manages to KO your group then you can easily kite him, avoid the boulders he throws..ect. Still quite faceroll when compared to Origins.

[Koiruoho]

Also because people are tired of seeing this exact damned thread pop up every 15 minutes because someone feels that they're too special to post their concerns in the place where they have been explicitly invited to be posted.

Then when someone decides to respond in kind with, say, taking a huge, strained dump on their trainwreck of a thread it MUST be because they disagree with the content of the post. It's also a bonus when they get in a huff about it.

[shadowpiranha]

Yes, yes, your anguish sustains me.

I kid, I kid.

Don't blame the game if the concept of tactics escapes you, I played the demo as a mage and did not have to go kitting like a madwoman to kill the ogre. I also don't understand why you say the healer tree is useless and the healer mage has been removed, I find it rather similar to the old one and rather useful and I'm sure you can make a healer build easily, but that is, of course, a matter of opinion.

Good on you for saving your money though, if you don't like it, you don't like it. We just didn't need to hear about it yet again, I suppose.

[Loc'n'lol]

asaiasai wrote...
WAAAAAAAH
Asai

Ok.