More than worth the Full Price and with all the DLC that came out through the year it kept me playing nearly all year round. That's testament to what an amazing game ME2 is to me.
Was Mass Effect 2 worth full price?
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#52
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 06:54
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Bioware are making more money then ever. Just because people like you wish the video game industry and RPG games was still in the nineties doesn't mean everybody else does. More Bioware fans liked ME2 then ME1. Bioware got more critical and commercial sucess from ME2 then from ME1. You really think they don't have 3 years left?Gatt9 wrote...
Orkboy wrote...
Not a chance in hell.
If i'd known back then just how butchered and generic the ME2 system had been made, I would have rented it instead of buying it.
This.
I bought it day one, and was horrified to discover they'd taken a fine RPG and turned it into a really crappy TPS. I struggled to play it, but somewhere around when I realized that Quake's AI was an order of magnitude better, and the constant contradiction and nonsense in the story became glaring, I just gave up.
I really feel I was ripped off my $60.
I also really feel that Bioware's gone straight downhill since EA took over, quality has gone to crap and suddenly they're trying to imitate shooters instead of making RPGs.
I don't think they've got 3 years left.
#53
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 07:02
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Yeah it was worth it. Mess with dlcs though. They should really stop w/ exclusive crap and dr. pepper bull****.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:07
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I am finding it hard to enjoy ME2 as much as ME1. I played through ME1 for the first time last week (without sidequests) and loved it. Then I downloaded ME2 and played ME1 again (NG+ with Sidequests) and imported my character into ME2.
I am not a fan of shooters and ME2 is more a shooter than ME1 was.
I only paid $20 for ME2 on Steam but it will cost another $34 for all the DLC (which I probably won't buy). However, when I think about possibly spending $94 on ME2 ($60+$34) then I would certainly consider that too much for one game.
I have never realized before just how much games have gone up in price this console generation. It isn't just the $10 rise from $50 to $60, it's the added cost of the DLC. In the end, how many games (with all their content) cost close to $100? Just something to think about.
I am not a fan of shooters and ME2 is more a shooter than ME1 was.
I only paid $20 for ME2 on Steam but it will cost another $34 for all the DLC (which I probably won't buy). However, when I think about possibly spending $94 on ME2 ($60+$34) then I would certainly consider that too much for one game.
I have never realized before just how much games have gone up in price this console generation. It isn't just the $10 rise from $50 to $60, it's the added cost of the DLC. In the end, how many games (with all their content) cost close to $100? Just something to think about.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:08
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darknoon5 wrote...
Bioware are making more money then ever. Just because people like you wish the video game industry and RPG games was still in the nineties doesn't mean everybody else does. More Bioware fans liked ME2 then ME1. Bioware got more critical and commercial sucess from ME2 then from ME1. You really think they don't have 3 years left?Gatt9 wrote...
Orkboy wrote...
Not a chance in hell.
If i'd known back then just how butchered and generic the ME2 system had been made, I would have rented it instead of buying it.
This.
I bought it day one, and was horrified to discover they'd taken a fine RPG and turned it into a really crappy TPS. I struggled to play it, but somewhere around when I realized that Quake's AI was an order of magnitude better, and the constant contradiction and nonsense in the story became glaring, I just gave up.
I really feel I was ripped off my $60.
I also really feel that Bioware's gone straight downhill since EA took over, quality has gone to crap and suddenly they're trying to imitate shooters instead of making RPGs.
I don't think they've got 3 years left.
They aren't worth arguing with. Mass Effect 2 had much better critical reviews. Mass Effect 2 had much better player ratings (as evidenced by polls and meters on sites like ign, gamespot, and uh THIS VERY SITE), and finally, Mass Effect 2 sold better. Thus, by every statistical measure Mass Effect 2 was a better game. The "ME1 is superior in every way" crowd is so backward it isn't even funny.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:08
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Whilst I disagree with you, on the vein of DLC, you should at least get the Liara one if you enjoyed ME1 so much.Garak2 wrote...
I am finding it hard to enjoy ME2 as much as ME1. I played through ME1 for the first time last week (without sidequests) and loved it. Then I downloaded ME2 and played ME1 again (NG+ with Sidequests) and imported my character into ME2.
I am not a fan of shooters and ME2 is more a shooter than ME1 was.
I only paid $20 for ME2 on Steam but it will cost another $34 for all the DLC (which I probably won't buy). However, when I think about possibly spending $94 on ME2 ($60+$34) then I would certainly consider that too much for one game.
I have never realized before just how much games have gone up in price this console generation. It isn't just the $10 rise from $50 to $60, it's the added cost of the DLC. In the end, how many games (with all their content) cost close to $100? Just something to think about.
QFT.Metroidbum wrote...
darknoon5 wrote...
Bioware are making more money then ever. Just becauseGatt9 wrote...
Orkboy wrote...
Not a chance in hell.
If
i'd known back then just how butchered and generic the ME2 system had
been made, I would have rented it instead of buying it.
This.
I
bought it day one, and was horrified to discover they'd taken a fine
RPG and turned it into a really crappy TPS. I struggled to play it,
but somewhere around when I realized that Quake's AI was an order of
magnitude better, and the constant contradiction and nonsense in the
story became glaring, I just gave up.
I really feel I was ripped off my $60.
I
also really feel that Bioware's gone straight downhill since EA took
over, quality has gone to crap and suddenly they're trying to imitate
shooters instead of making RPGs.
I don't think they've got 3
years left.
people like you wish the video game industry and RPG games was still in
the nineties doesn't mean everybody else does. More Bioware fans liked
ME2 then ME1. Bioware got more critical and commercial sucess from ME2
then from ME1. You really think they don't have 3 years left?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]
They
aren't worth arguing with. Mass Effect 2 had much better critical
reviews. Mass Effect 2 had much better player ratings (as evidenced by
polls and meters on sites like ign, gamespot, and uh THIS VERY SITE),
and finally, Mass Effect 2 sold better. Thus, by every statistical
measure Mass Effect 2 was a better game. The "ME1 is superior in every
way" crowd is so backward it isn't even funny.
I will concede ME1 is better then ME2 in someways, but overall ME2 is definetly a better game.
Modifié par darknoon5, 03 mars 2011 - 09:10 .
#59
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:09
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A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:12
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Null_ wrote...
A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE
If you wanna play that game then Oblivion GOTY is a much better deal than ME1, ME2 or DAO.
#61
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:13
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Because it doesn't have multiplayer or anything, IGNORANCE IS KIND OF A BAD THING MATENull_ wrote...
A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE
#62
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:14
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It was worth way more than full price to me. I've played it one hell of a lot.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:18
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That ME2 sold better than ME1 can easily be attributed to the greatness of ME1. I bought ME2 because I loved ME1 and I'll bet alot of other people did too. The success of ME3 will depend greatly on how many loved ME2.
That reviewers liked ME2 better than ME1 doesn't really matter when you don't trust professional reviewers. These are the same reviewers who gave Final Fantasy 13 high scores too.
I do care about player reviews, players pay out instead of getting paid to review a game.
That reviewers liked ME2 better than ME1 doesn't really matter when you don't trust professional reviewers. These are the same reviewers who gave Final Fantasy 13 high scores too.
I do care about player reviews, players pay out instead of getting paid to review a game.
#65
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:21
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The question, to me, is absurd. So few games on the market even come close to the quality of Mass Effect 2 from a narrative, gameplay & dollar-per-hour perspective.
Mass Effect 1&2 was well worth full price plus the added price of all the DLCs that have been released. How is this even a reasonable question? There are hundreds of retail game released each year and there are perhaps no more than 10-20 that are actually worth the full $50-60 price.
If Mass Effect 2 were still 50-60 bucks today, I would still say it's worth every cent. The fact you can buy digital version of it for 20 dollars though is mind blowing... the game is still better than 95% of the games that have come out since ME2 was released over a year ago.
Mass Effect 1&2 was well worth full price plus the added price of all the DLCs that have been released. How is this even a reasonable question? There are hundreds of retail game released each year and there are perhaps no more than 10-20 that are actually worth the full $50-60 price.
If Mass Effect 2 were still 50-60 bucks today, I would still say it's worth every cent. The fact you can buy digital version of it for 20 dollars though is mind blowing... the game is still better than 95% of the games that have come out since ME2 was released over a year ago.
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#66
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:28
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YES.
I pre ordered the LE after the TIM/Miranda trailer, I've played it 11x and I've got more than my money's worth.
I pre ordered the LE after the TIM/Miranda trailer, I've played it 11x and I've got more than my money's worth.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:34
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Point 1: That is an assumption which you cannot back up in any way, shape, or form. I like Fable 2, but I did not buy Fable 3 because it looked like it was not a good game. And by all accounts, it wasn't.Garak2 wrote...
That ME2 sold better than ME1 can easily be attributed to the greatness of ME1. I bought ME2 because I loved ME1 and I'll bet alot of other people did too. The success of ME3 will depend greatly on how many loved ME2.
That reviewers liked ME2 better than ME1 doesn't really matter when you don't trust professional reviewers. These are the same reviewers who gave Final Fantasy 13 high scores too.
I do care about player reviews, players pay out instead of getting paid to review a game.
Point 2: By high scores do you mean an average of 8.1? cause thats what FF13 average is. That's the review equivalent of a "meh". You can choose not to trust professional reviewers, but I have found through personal experience that the review aggregate is a pretty good indicatior of quality.
Point 3: And the player review scores favor Mass Effect 2. Bon voyage.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:50
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Metroidbum wrote...
Point 1: That is an assumption which you cannot back up in any way, shape, or form. I like Fable 2, but I did not buy Fable 3 because it looked like it was not a good game. And by all accounts, it wasn't.Garak2 wrote...
That ME2 sold better than ME1 can easily be attributed to the greatness of ME1. I bought ME2 because I loved ME1 and I'll bet alot of other people did too. The success of ME3 will depend greatly on how many loved ME2.
That reviewers liked ME2 better than ME1 doesn't really matter when you don't trust professional reviewers. These are the same reviewers who gave Final Fantasy 13 high scores too.
I do care about player reviews, players pay out instead of getting paid to review a game.
Point 2: By high scores do you mean an average of 8.1? cause thats what FF13 average is. That's the review equivalent of a "meh". You can choose not to trust professional reviewers, but I have found through personal experience that the review aggregate is a pretty good indicatior of quality.
Point 3: And the player review scores favor Mass Effect 2. Bon voyage.
Point 1: I don't need to back it up, people know why they chose to buy ME2 and I'll bet alot of them decided to buy it because they loved ME1. Most of the pre-orders probably fall into that category. On the other hand though, you can't prove the opposite either.
Point 2: FF13 was not worth an 8.1, it was really bad. Lost Odyssey got worse reviews than FF13 but was a far better game.
Point 3: I know that and there is no argument here but how many of those players also love every other generic shooter that comes out? If you are a fan of shooters, then sure ME2 is better than ME1.
#69
Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:50
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How to you come to value decisions?
As a quick thing I pit it is a $ per hour thing, I put movie theaters in at the expensive end of worth it at 10$ an hour per person. I have put near 300 hours into mass effect 2 all of it fun, so even under my stingiest appraisal of $ per hour scenario it is more than worth it. Now degree of fun has bearing as well, I consider my food and booze based expenditures worth it even though I might be blowing well over a $100 in an hour since I had a blast with friends. And on that side while not has amazingly fun as a night at Smuggler's Cove or Hobsans Choice(when not crowded with college kids), etc. with friends it is very fun for a game so every $per hour is worth my standard rate.
On the other hand I have seen plenty of people put their value not on a per hour basis but by the deal they can get. And in that case since discounted versions are available within months sometimes 1/2 off I doubt full price is worth it to them for pretty much any game since all they have to do is wait a bit.
As a quick thing I pit it is a $ per hour thing, I put movie theaters in at the expensive end of worth it at 10$ an hour per person. I have put near 300 hours into mass effect 2 all of it fun, so even under my stingiest appraisal of $ per hour scenario it is more than worth it. Now degree of fun has bearing as well, I consider my food and booze based expenditures worth it even though I might be blowing well over a $100 in an hour since I had a blast with friends. And on that side while not has amazingly fun as a night at Smuggler's Cove or Hobsans Choice(when not crowded with college kids), etc. with friends it is very fun for a game so every $per hour is worth my standard rate.
On the other hand I have seen plenty of people put their value not on a per hour basis but by the deal they can get. And in that case since discounted versions are available within months sometimes 1/2 off I doubt full price is worth it to them for pretty much any game since all they have to do is wait a bit.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:54
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Did the same thing! I went first with the xbox version then found the collectors edition on pc for like 25 dollars from best buy. Basiclly got it free because of my rewards points.MrFob wrote...
Bought 2 copies at almost full price (long story) and it was absolutely worth it. Especially since one was the collectors edition.
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Garak2 wrote...
Null_ wrote...
A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE
If you wanna play that game then Oblivion GOTY is a much better deal than ME1, ME2 or DAO.
For a lot of people I am sure it was. I loved Arena, daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and put close to as many hours into each of those games as I put into mass effect. Oblivion is a great game, easily woth its money.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 09:59
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I'd say all Bioware games are worth the full price. I bought 2 copies of DAO cause it was so good!
Nah I bought the second copy because it was the ultimate edition being sold for 20 dollars. I wanted to play Awakening and the DLCs.
Too bad EA doesn't allow you to gift extra copies of your game... I wanted to give my friend a copy of DAO.
Nah I bought the second copy because it was the ultimate edition being sold for 20 dollars. I wanted to play Awakening and the DLCs.
Too bad EA doesn't allow you to gift extra copies of your game... I wanted to give my friend a copy of DAO.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 10:01
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Ahglock wrote...
Garak2 wrote...
Null_ wrote...
A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE
If you wanna play that game then Oblivion GOTY is a much better deal than ME1, ME2 or DAO.
For a lot of people I am sure it was. I loved Arena, daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and put close to as many hours into each of those games as I put into mass effect. Oblivion is a great game, easily woth its money.
With all the side quests, you can do ME1 in less than 50 hours (I am being generous here). Doing all the sidequests in Morrowind or Oblivion will cost you twice that, easily. I haven't played Arena or Daggerfall.
Of course, that's assuming that you enjoy Oblivion or ME1 enough to do all the sidequests in the first place. This is the flaw in counting hours vs dollars. If you count multiplayer hours then popular FPS are worth thousands of dollars.
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Posté 03 mars 2011 - 11:50
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Sure, it's on sale for around £14 brand new but... looking back... yes. Totally worth it. Every penny well spent.
