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[monika26]

It was totally worth the full price. I brought the Collectors' Edition and I have no regrets. Usually there's only a handful of games each year I'm willing to buy when they're released, the rest I wait for the price to come down. ME3 will be one of those this year, no doubt! I'm just waiting for the uber collector's edition to be announced so I can pre-order it!

[fmsantos39]

was tottaly worth, I will keep putting my money on this game until the DLC's are over
God what I did to get this game 1st day- I haven't pre-oredered so I have gone to the store just with hope, I gave 4 euros for the ticket in the train, almost 1 hour travelling to the Center of the city (Porto), 2 euros in the subway to the closest game stage store, I arrived the store they informed me the game sold out, I was desperated and the guy in the store also informed me they had a copy left from someone who pre-ordered it but just was interested in getting the game on the next week, I said ok but they said the game was in the other store on next shopping, so I put more 2 euros on the buss and then I bought the game full price 69,99 euros (Portugal thiefs...) and I dont regret any of this.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

I got my ME2CE back in sept '10 for cheap, so yeah, it was worth the price, imo. It was apparently the last copy in my area, so I guess that helped the sense of value as well.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 04 mars 2011 - 12:50 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Yes. And I almost bought it again just to have a boxed version. Good thing I was able to control myself.

[Ahglock]

Garak2 wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

Null_ wrote...

A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE

If you wanna play that game then Oblivion GOTY is a much better deal than ME1, ME2 or DAO.

For a lot of people I am sure it was.  I loved Arena, daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and put close to as many hours into each of those games as I put into mass effect.  Oblivion is a great game, easily woth its money. 

With all the side quests, you can do ME1 in less than 50 hours (I am being generous here). Doing all the sidequests in Morrowind or Oblivion will cost you twice that, easily. I haven't played Arena or Daggerfall.

Of course, that's assuming that you enjoy Oblivion or ME1 enough to do all the sidequests in the first place. This is the flaw in counting hours vs dollars. If you count multiplayer hours then popular FPS are worth thousands of dollars.

I don't think anyone just says I spent X hours doing something it was worth it.  It is hours you enjoy doing it.  With games hours played to hours enjoyed go hand in hand to some degree because if you would have more fun doing something else you would just stop playing  It is kind of a vloluntary thing to do after all.  My Gym costs me $28 a month, hours of actual use to value fits fairly well.  Sure I am there for my health and you can't put a price on that blah blah, but end of the day if I went only 1 hour a month it would not be worth it.  I go closer to 20 hours a month so it is.  But yes there are levels of enjoyment as well.(or for the gym if I get a crappy work out in that time)

  But for the sake of argument lets assume rating=fun in game.  Oblivion got a 91ish I think ME2 94?  I think both those scores are close enough and high enough that the hours played thing somewhat pans out.  Now oblivion might not be a persons prefered game style and for them it wont pan out, but they probably know that well before they put the 200 hours I put into the game.  Now the thing is a rating 70 games would probably never get you to play it for 50 hours much less 2-300 hours.(again assuming ratings are/were acurate) Personally I'd say any game that you put in more than 5 hours into probably was worth it.  Why because in 5 hours you know if it sucks or not and if it does you quit.  If it is good, you actually put time into the game past that 5 hours and you got your money's worth.  And at that point it isn't just time to money, it is time you are having fun to money.  I kind of figured in everyone's argument of time to money the having fun part is assumed. 

[Voods07]

 Very much worth full price to me.

[Garak2]

Ahglock wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

Ahglock wrote...

Garak2 wrote...

Null_ wrote...

A 30hr game for the same price as 5hr FPS IS KINDA A GOOD DEAL MATE

If you wanna play that game then Oblivion GOTY is a much better deal than ME1, ME2 or DAO.

For a lot of people I am sure it was.  I loved Arena, daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion and put close to as many hours into each of those games as I put into mass effect.  Oblivion is a great game, easily woth its money. 

With all the side quests, you can do ME1 in less than 50 hours (I am being generous here). Doing all the sidequests in Morrowind or Oblivion will cost you twice that, easily. I haven't played Arena or Daggerfall.

Of course, that's assuming that you enjoy Oblivion or ME1 enough to do all the sidequests in the first place. This is the flaw in counting hours vs dollars. If you count multiplayer hours then popular FPS are worth thousands of dollars.

I don't think anyone just says I spent X hours doing something it was worth it.  It is hours you enjoy doing it.  With games hours played to hours enjoyed go hand in hand to some degree because if you would have more fun doing something else you would just stop playing  It is kind of a vloluntary thing to do after all.  My Gym costs me $28 a month, hours of actual use to value fits fairly well.  Sure I am there for my health and you can't put a price on that blah blah, but end of the day if I went only 1 hour a month it would not be worth it.  I go closer to 20 hours a month so it is.  But yes there are levels of enjoyment as well.(or for the gym if I get a crappy work out in that time)

  But for the sake of argument lets assume rating=fun in game.  Oblivion got a 91ish I think ME2 94?  I think both those scores are close enough and high enough that the hours played thing somewhat pans out.  Now oblivion might not be a persons prefered game style and for them it wont pan out, but they probably know that well before they put the 200 hours I put into the game.  Now the thing is a rating 70 games would probably never get you to play it for 50 hours much less 2-300 hours.(again assuming ratings are/were acurate) Personally I'd say any game that you put in more than 5 hours into probably was worth it.  Why because in 5 hours you know if it sucks or not and if it does you quit.  If it is good, you actually put time into the game past that 5 hours and you got your money's worth.  And at that point it isn't just time to money, it is time you are having fun to money.  I kind of figured in everyone's argument of time to money the having fun part is assumed. 

A gym membership is a service and so should be measured by cost vs hours of usage, just like Netflix and instant streaming.  A video game is a product and indeed one $94 game (ME2 plus DLC) would be almost a full year of Netflix streaming only plan ($9.99 a month I think). ME2's price tag now looks alot bigger. One game that can last you anb average of 50 hours can't even compare to 9 1/2 months of Netflix where you can watch hundreds, maybe thousands of hours (of new content) in that time period.

[RenanBruno]

Totally worth it. Just an amazing game

[Iakus]

Nope.  I found it to be a very poor sequel to ME 1 The characters had to take turns really being alive.  The story was less an epic space opera than Shepard wandering the galaxy, righting random wrongs.  The game was one step forward and two steps back.  To this day I regret preordering it.

Now if LOTSB had been expanded to a 35hour + game, That would have been worth paying full price for.

[2kgnsiika]

If any game is worth its full price, ME2 is. I've regretted paying the full price for many games lately: bad ones (FFXIII) and even decent ones (Alpha Protocol, I'm looking at you...) but I never regretted a single penny spent on a BioWare game.

[Il Divo]

It was very much worth full price, imo. It's kinda funny because despite playing Mass Effect 1 I hadn't even looked at Mass Effect 2 until a buddy of mine pulled up the Mass Effect 2 launch trailer. I immediately ran out to my local gamestop and put down a pre-order only three days before launch. I was impressed against my will.

At the moment, I consider it my third personal favorite game, beaten only by Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

[Ahglock]

Garak2 wrote...


A gym membership is a service and so should be measured by cost vs hours of usage, just like Netflix and instant streaming.  A video game is a product and indeed one $94 game (ME2 plus DLC) would be almost a full year of Netflix streaming only plan ($9.99 a month I think). ME2's price tag now looks alot bigger. One game that can last you anb average of 50 hours can't even compare to 9 1/2 months of Netflix where you can watch hundreds, maybe thousands of hours (of new content) in that time period.

Something else being more worth it, does not make it any less worth it.  I have netflix, now lets assume I use thousands of hours of content and I have fun doing so.  It is worth the money, even more so than ME2.  ME2 was still worth it though because I got 300 hours of fun out of it, which makes it worth the money.  Sure if I only have $100 a year to spend on entertainmen I'd' probably choose netflix over ME2, but I don't I have a lot more than that to spend on entertainment.  So I can get both and they can both be worth the money I spent. 

Like I said in an earlier post I can see how others value things differenlty, like in comparative ways, or levels of fun. And hey great for them ME2 might not be worth it based on how they determine value/worth.  But I value things almsot entirely based on time.  Why because time is the one thing I can't buy, I have a finite ammount of time and I keep using it at the same slow steady pace.  So for something to be worth it, it has to use that time in a god way given my resources.  I can afford X ammount of expenditures over Y period of time, if I had enough fun to non-fun hours in my available time my money spent was worth it, if not it wasn't.  In my free time over the last year 300 hours went to ME2 and that time spent was fun.  I spent 90 of my X ammount of money in the last year on ME 2. That seems worth it to me. 

Now going back to netflix, unless I love my netflix so much I never have any avaialable time where I don't want to be using netflix, I'll still find other things to be worth it.  Why because I might have 2000 avaialble fun time hours, 1000 to netflix leaves another 1000 fun time hours. I don't plan on wasting those 1,000 fun time hours, I want to fill them up.  Getting the best bang for my buck is great especially since I can't guarantee how much money I will have tomorrow. 

[Garak2]

How many here loved ME2 and are planning to buy ME3?

[billybobjones]

iakus wrote...

Nope.  I found it to be a very poor sequel to ME 1 The characters had to take turns really being alive.  The story was less an epic space opera than Shepard wandering the galaxy, righting random wrongs.  The game was one step forward and two steps back.  To this day I regret preordering it.

Now if LOTSB had been expanded to a 35hour + game, That would have been worth paying full price for.

yes, because in Mass effect 1, all the character were always alive at once, in a colorful explosion of character development that somehow took place simultaneously.

If anything, the characters were more alive in ME2, because due to the nature of the story they were given more time to shine. As far as criticisms of ME2 go, that one is pretty weak.

[billybobjones]

Garak2 wrote...

How many here loved ME2 and are planning to buy ME3?

Me, unless ME3 looks really bad as we start to learn more about it. Doubt that will happen tho

[UKStory135]

I loved ME2 and I have already preordered ME3. The only way I'll cancel it is if I have to drive the Mako, Hammerhead, or something worse for half the game.

[insaner2play]

It was worth the full price brand new. I just wished I waited a bit longer cause I found a Collector's Edition at Best Buy weeks later. I wish I got ME1 new since it came with the DLC for the same price I bought used without it.

[Gatt9]

darknoon5 wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

Orkboy wrote...

Not a chance in hell.

If i'd known back then just how butchered and generic the ME2 system had been made, I would have rented it instead of buying it.

This.

I bought it day one,  and was horrified to discover they'd taken a fine RPG and turned it into a really crappy TPS.  I struggled to play it,  but somewhere around when I realized that Quake's AI was an order of magnitude better,  and the constant contradiction and nonsense in the story became glaring,  I just gave up.

I really feel I was ripped off my $60. 

I also really feel that Bioware's gone straight downhill since EA took over,  quality has gone to crap and suddenly they're trying to imitate shooters instead of making RPGs.

I don't think they've got 3 years left.

Bioware are making more money then ever. Just because people like you wish the video game industry and RPG games was still in the nineties doesn't mean everybody else does. More Bioware fans liked ME2 then ME1. Bioware got more critical and commercial sucess from ME2 then from ME1. You really think they don't have 3 years left?

and...

They aren't worth arguing with. Mass Effect 2 had much better critical reviews. Mass Effect 2 had much better player ratings (as evidenced by polls and meters on sites like ign, gamespot, and uh THIS VERY SITE), and finally, Mass Effect 2 sold better. Thus, by every statistical measure Mass Effect 2 was a better game. The "ME1 is superior in every way" crowd is so backward it isn't even funny.

1.  Bioware doesn't make money.  Bioware is owned by EA.  EA makes money.

2.  Isn't it interesting how when people can't find a rational counter arguement they always resort to "Everything but this game is OLD!  Only you bad people want to play OLD games!". 

3.  Apparently you are in possession of a survey of every single person who plays games and what they like,  since you clearly state you know that everyone else doesn't like Mass Effect's gameplay.  Would you please post a link to this data for the rest of us?  The complete breakdown I mean.

4.  Apparently you are also in possession of a survey of every single person who bought ME2 and what they like,  would you please post a link to that data as well?

5.  Because otherwise you're just making things up.

6.  Isn't it strange how the industries biggest advertiser's game got all of the awards?  I wonder how that happened...Especially since...

7.  Mass Effect sold 2 million units,  ME2 sold only 1.6.  DAO sold 3.2 million,  and Fable 2 sold 2 million.  So basically,  ME2's at the bottom of the list.

8.  Wouldn't it be really interesting if people realized those "Player ratings" have the low numbers culled out?  Take a look at some of your favorite examples,  it's really fun to notice almost everything below a certain threshold disappears when you go back further.

9.  Would be more interesting if people remembered the massive flame wars on THIS VERY FORUM about the changes.

10.  It's just so highly entertaining,  if you liked Mass Effect (2007) you're "Backwards and old!!!!!!".  I guess cloning Gears of War and throwing in some dialogue makes you up to date?  Oh...wait...Gears of War is as old as Mass Effect...Incoming Paradox!

It's just so entertaining that people use the same attacks to try and shout down anyone who thinks (insert game) made a turn for the worse.  "You're old and a stupid head!" for a game that isn't even 5 years old?  Really?

[Chaos Gate]

No.

Easily the most disappointing game I've ever encountered. Like other people have said, I felt completely ripped off and deceived by BioWare. My bitterness is still seething to this day.

Mass Effect 2 is a giant leap backwards when compared to the first game.

Modifié par Chaos Gate, 04 mars 2011 - 11:54 .

[Il Divo]

Gatt9 wrote...

10.  It's just so highly entertaining,  if you liked Mass Effect (2007) you're "Backwards and old!!!!!!".  I guess cloning Gears of War and throwing in some dialogue makes you up to date?  Oh...wait...Gears of War is as old as Mass Effect...Incoming Paradox!

It really depends on how you define cloning. Mass Effect if anything was Gears of War done badly, I'll take Mass Effect 2's redesign over that any day given how terrible many of those 'fine RPG' elements turned out, like the inventory. Regardless, I'd say people tend to devalue how much time you can spend in conversation or becoming enthralled in the story. That's not something you typically do in Gears of War multiplayer.  

Modifié par Il Divo, 04 mars 2011 - 01:50 .

[UKStory135]

Gatt9 wrote...


7.  Mass Effect sold 2 million units,  ME2 sold only 1.6.  DAO sold 3.2 million,  and Fable 2 sold 2 million.  So basically,  ME2's at the bottom of the list.

The 1.6 million figure that all the He-man Mass Effect 2 haters throw around is from May of 2011

kotaku.com/5536720/bad-company-2-sells-five-million-fifa-sells-a-lot-more

It has been on the market for 9 months since then.

It has sold nearly 250,000 on the PS3
http://gamrreview.vg.../mass-effect-2/
so we have at least 1.8 to 1.9 million sold if we assume that no one bought the game after the price drop.  If you are going to use figures to bash ME2, at least use up to date ones.

[Ahglock]

UKStory135 wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...


7.  Mass Effect sold 2 million units,  ME2 sold only 1.6.  DAO sold 3.2 million,  and Fable 2 sold 2 million.  So basically,  ME2's at the bottom of the list.

The 1.6 million figure that all the He-man Mass Effect 2 haters throw around is from May of 2011

kotaku.com/5536720/bad-company-2-sells-five-million-fifa-sells-a-lot-more

It has been on the market for 9 months since then.

It has sold nearly 250,000 on the PS3
http://gamrreview.vg.../mass-effect-2/
so we have at least 1.8 to 1.9 million sold if we assume that no one bought the game after the price drop.  If you are going to use figures to bash ME2, at least use up to date ones.

Ture with the PS3 it probably beats ME1 without it, it probably matches it or is so close it is not worth talkig about.  I doubt it comes close to DAO's numbers though, if these numbers are accurate.  I vastly prefered ME2 to DA anything exceot for the conversation system, I liked dragon age's conversation system better, which they just got rid of in DA2. 

[Gleym]

Worth full price? No.

Modifié par Gleym, 04 mars 2011 - 06:55 .

[Nohvarr]

Worth full price? Yes