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[cha0sgod]

Get rid of the 3 functions in 1 key for pc...

[Toxico Rosa]

 I think what they should do with the story line is have the "inventers" of the reapers (the Levithans created the Intellagence/catalyst wich then created the reapers) try to over through the rest of the citdel space because they still think they are the "one and only" apex civalization. Also they should take some time with it aspecaily if it is going to be a multiconsol game. I do not care how long it will take i just want it to be as good or better than the last three taking the best things from each one. Also EA dont mess this up I am very loyal fan. it takes alot to disapoint me, so please dont. Bioware best of luck to you.

[Toxico Rosa]

a pepper wrote...

PsiFive wrote...

I can understand it if they go multiplayer anything because its a business and multi is easy to monetise, and fair enough to all those people who like it. But they'll lose me if there isn't a decent SP campaign to go along with it. My multiplayer gaming consists of me, my wife and our friends playing poker for chips or backyard cricket. At a push I'll go for LAN partying, but there must be beer bottle clinking, handshakes and high fives, and a complete absence of text screens accusing people of being a n00b or f4g. It's just my preference and I may be a minority these days but for me RW MP rocks and online MP sucks. I'm not asking for no MP because that's not fair on people who do like it, but if there's no SP campaign or there is one but the company's not put a lot of effort in (because MULTIPLAYA!!!) then my wallet just ain't opening.

I'm with you there about not wanting an MP-exclusive title. I enjoy some online MP, but as a rule I won't buy a game unless there's a reasonable single player element. There's only one reason for this, and it's that I like knowing that if I buy a game, I can still break it out 10 years later and enjoy it again. The problem with MP-centric games, even ones that develop a cult following, is that eventually the developer stops supporting them and the community dies off. One of the things that really pissed me off about ME3 is that in 10 years there won't be anyone playing the mutiplayer, so I won't be able to achieve a high enough EMS score with some choices.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you can just sp the whole wy not even a single second Mult and get the best endings  you just have to scan every system that you can and manly do paragon then you can get the best endings

[ethos231]

 As much as people has requested/wanted a prequel, it will never happen, we already know what happened in the wars b4 shepards so theres no point in making one during one of those wars because it wont change anything, it will probably just a FPS with no RPG feel to it with no choices as well. There best bet would be making a sequel as a new hero maybe taking off where shepard left it, like you start off as a new Alliance Recruit (possibly shepards son/daughter) which you discover a new threat on a dailey and normal trip with a new squad, your squad gets killed off and even your commanding officier, after that you go back to alliance space to tell Admiral Hackett which he then sends you to join/takeover as the new commanding officier of the Normandy (which means all the fan favorites are still there which will be great because i dont want to see the Normandys crews story end with sheps as well) maybe have shep in there too as possibly a woretorn Admiral taking over Andersons persission(that will only happen if u got the breath ending). But personally, i want the original SR2 Normandy with her awesome crew to be in the next game because seriously i dont want them to just completely kick out the original crew members in the next game, i will miss Joker, Liara, Tali, Wrex and Garrus if they do

PS sorry for the spelling, i suck at using my phone

Modifié par ethos231, 15 mars 2013 - 09:02 .

[Krayziebone101]

Yes I would love to have the Normandy's crew back, BUT I think the new cast of characters will grow on us like the old ones and we will love them just as much. I understand why everyone says it should be a new protagonist with the same crew, but it'd be nice to have the opportunity to get to know a whole new crew. In time, we will cherish them as much as the old ones.

[master of assassins]

i hope they make an ME4 and still have shepard as the main character it doesnt have to be the shepard we all know and love but it could be his son or daughter that he has with liara or ashley or tali or jack or miranda and if you chose the destroy option shepard takes anderson's place as admiral and turns the alliance into the most feared and respectful military in the entire galaxy or he and his love interest ( mine is miranda) take over cerberus and rebuild it into a respectful organization and ME4 you should be able to fully customize the character from looks build powers and weapons and armor stats and for ME3 love interest should be in more depth and be able to tell him or her how much he or she means to shepard and have a marriage proposal in there somewhere since shepard is with the person that means the world to him or her and if your love interest is someone who isn't on the normandy crew that person should be able to join your crew in the final fight against the reapers and i really hope EA and bioware don't screw this up and rush it take your time read what we fans are saying and implement some of these ideas to the game

[ethos231]

I've got another idea: You are a merc that starts off on omega during the events of mass effect 3 and u can choose which race you want to play as and that certain race belongs to a certain merc group, for example: you chose to be an asari, you group is the eclipse. Turian: blue suns, Krogan:blood pack etc. After you've chosen your race and customized their looks to your liking, you start off in your merc groups main base on Omega and there is a warning on Omega that Cerburus will be attacking so you and your group realises that you should get off Omega to save yourselves rather than fight off the attackers. After you escape you hear Aria survived and that she's going to thr citadel but your group landed on a local colony that was getting attacked by Reaper ground forces so you and your group defend the colony which you save, the colony thanks you for saving them and they give you a lift to the Citadel to gather supplies and to see the Council for possible help (You go to the citadel during main missions that happened during Mass effect 3) After the visit you just go to places that you never went to in mass effect 3 to defend people/uncover secrets that Cerburus is hiding. At the end of the game you are retaking back earth (coz Aria told you, that was another reason you went to the citadel, to see what Aria wanted you to do) now what ever u did at the end of the third game was the ending of the new game. After the war you and your group get contacted by Admiral Hackett because he noticed your bravery above others and wanted you to join the Alliance and take over the normandy as the new Commander. Next game you start off in a bruised up Normandy as the new commander with the legendary normandy crew that survived.

[Ragnarokvr1]

Sheppard told his story. He saved the GALAXY. What the hell could top THAT? Save the UNIVERSE?

Come on get real.

We need a new story, that's what Bioware's good at. If Mass Effect trilogy was this good why not trust them to make something new that will be just as good?

[TJByrum]

I'd appreciate a sort of strategy alement.  In Mass Effect 3 you had the three forces (Hammer, Forge, and Anvil I think it was) and I expected some sort of strategy element...

I don't know, like selecting a Turian force to attack a Krogan force, and some tanks to attack somewhere else or something, I don't know.

Space combat would be welcomed.

[Ragnarokvr1]

A well made Mass Effect game would be truly glorious. Just don't make something stupid like starcraft 2 where it's more of a click-fest instead of using your brain to come up with amazing strategies.

I'd pay 100$ for a well made Mass Effect strategy game, even as a shooter it has more strategy than many shooters out there.

Imagine having the tanks from Mass Effect which can boost up in the air for short durations, units with biotic powers, energy shields and strategic cover based environments. It would be really great. Plus the unique features of every race like Krogans fast regen would be great.

[master of assassins]

another idea i have for mass effect 4 would be with shepard and all mass effect crew members it would start off as the alliance finds shepard's body in the rubble barley clinging to life they get him to a hospital asap and hackett looks at his injuries and gets miranda to fix him up since she did in me2 and during his recovery the alliance gets reports of a creature looking like the reapers attacking colonies all over the galaxy and shepard over hears it and tells them its leviathan and shepard and crew gear up and find out what leviathan is up to and they find out leviathan is doing this to regain control as the apex of the galaxy and shepard has to stop leviathan before leviathan takes control of every organic in the galaxy and reestablishes their dominance as the apex predator and enslave every organic if bioware doesnt make a game about leviathan they will always remain a threat to the galaxy and if they don't have shepard in mass effect 4 have it so shepard's love interest becomes commander of the normandy

[Revan111]

master of assassins wrote...

another idea i have for mass effect 4 would be with shepard and all mass effect crew members it would start off as the alliance finds shepard's body in the rubble barley clinging to life they get him to a hospital asap and hackett looks at his injuries and gets miranda to fix him up since she did in me2 and during his recovery the alliance gets reports of a creature looking like the reapers attacking colonies all over the galaxy and shepard over hears it and tells them its leviathan and shepard and crew gear up and find out what leviathan is up to and they find out leviathan is doing this to regain control as the apex of the galaxy and shepard has to stop leviathan before leviathan takes control of every organic in the galaxy and reestablishes their dominance as the apex predator and enslave every organic if bioware doesnt make a game about leviathan they will always remain a threat to the galaxy and if they don't have shepard in mass effect 4 have it so shepard's love interest becomes commander of the normandy

Did you you even play mass effect 3, did you even ****ing play it? This makes no sense what so ever first proplem most people would have gone for the control ending or synthisis ending so shepard's body would have been  
disintegrated so that ideas ****ed. Second proplem Miranda is ****ing dead you moron seriously I don't think you played this game at all. Third proplem Leviathans are ****ING sea creatures they have gills the reason they became the apex creatures was because they masted indoctrination they didn't conquer the other creatures with weapons they indoctrinated them using the artifacts they didn't fight back againist the Leviathans because they were primatives at the time and saw them as gods. Forth proplem even if the Levianthans were planing a galaxy wide takeover it wouldn't go well firstly they are stuck on a planet covered in water so they have no army secondly every one will know what to stay away from to stop themself's getting indoctrinated or just shoot the artifacts just to be safe, and third I always saw the Leviathans as a race that just wants to be left alone, happy just being left alone so I don't see them wanting war. Last proplem why would shepard's love interest get command of the Normandy the Normandy is not a family heirloom you give away in a will it is a ****ing stealth warship and I don't think just because they slept with shepard they have the right to command a military warship after shepard's death the crew propably do what they always do find a new backstory for the next game the Normandy will propably be given to admiral hackett or someone. So my final words are before you plan the forth game, PLAY THE ****ING THIRD ONE FIRST!     

Modifié par Revan111, 31 mars 2013 - 03:32 .

[Synergizer]

Bioware doesn't seem keen on calling the next game Mass Effect 4, maybe because it would imply some kind of chronological order?
Anyway, BW have raised subject matter like dark energy, mercenary groups, earth experimentation to create human biotics (probably early Cerberus). I could go on, but my point is that there is so much that they can draw on from just the existing 3 Mass Effect games - or they may choose to go down an entirely different path. I just hope it's not some N7 elite force shoot'em up with no role-playing, trying to make it some kind of "Battlefield" in space.

[ethos231]

Synergizer wrote...

Bioware doesn't seem keen on calling the next game Mass Effect 4, maybe because it would imply some kind of chronological order?
Anyway, BW have raised subject matter like dark energy, mercenary groups, earth experimentation to create human biotics (probably early Cerberus). I could go on, but my point is that there is so much that they can draw on from just the existing 3 Mass Effect games - or they may choose to go down an entirely different path. I just hope it's not some N7 elite force shoot'em up with no role-playing, trying to make it some kind of "Battlefield" in space.

I agree, Shepards story is over, his story was supposed to be a trilogy anyways but they could still put it in order just have another new character to take sheps place maybe 100 years or something after the events of the third game so much stuff could happen during that time another threat to the galaxy might rise up during that time. TBH im a big RTS fan and FPS but i cant see the next game being that maybe a DA:O feel game where you can control anyone in your party, to many fans loved the Third Person RPG feel Mass Effect brought us, people will complain if they change thr game type. Since the next ME is running on the new Frostbite 3 engine, maybe a 3rd person RPG with a destructible environment and more vehicle exploration since we arent rushing about trying to save the galaxy, also make the MP larger with pvp but have pve in there as another gamemode.

[urazoktay]

wildmage03 wrote...

 Honestly they really need to go back and finish ME3... the game was epic but the ending just made me feel like they got cheap and let EA control them and just send the game unfinished... I got the perfect Ending I was alive so why couldn't I go explore with Tali and my friends, instead it just left me there in some rubble... -.-

The ME series is the first and only game/series to ever EVER make me actually cry I felt actually connected to all my friends in that game heck I was better friends with the characters in the game then I ever was with my real life Friends

İ share the same feelings with you. İn a way, maybe it's awkward to say that but the whole Mass Effect experience was more real than anything i've yet to feel.

İ cried, i felt depressed, i cared for my friends, i nearly fell of my chair laughing at some points ( Mordin Salarian Scientist song and the awkward moment of silence accompanied with Mordin's cough for example  ) so much emotional attachment to my crew, my loved ones, i was crying my eyes out when i realized that in his final moments Thane was blessing my soul and giving his best wishes for me, preying for me to be relieved of my sins, mistakes...

İncredible moments in each Mass Effect game, i just can't count them all.

No other form of art give me that feel with that much of deepness, impact, nothing ever touched my soul more than my friends did in this series.

İ have friends, a lover, im not a no lifer or something, this was just more than reality. İn reality, love, faith, loyalty, trust, friendship, relationships are just not that refined and feel real, so much complications, so much complications, so much pain along with them.

İ really felt loved playing Mass Effect. İ will always remember them. They made me cry, made me feel those noble feelings, they made me feel a real human being.

Experiencing Mass Effect was just like living in a world that everyone is fair to each other, like you always get the things you deserved from them if you care about them.

There is just no real equal form to that in reality, you care for people, they stab you from behind, you care about them, they continue to live in their self centered perception of things, life.

For a human being who can really empathize and sympathesize with all his heart, Mass Effect may very well be the reality over so called reality of grey dust in which we're struggling to feel alive each day.

There are just so many complications and different concepts, perceptions of human relations and love for us out there to handle at times. İ for one just got tired of bleeding my heart for people who got stuck in their problems. Damn i might even be able to talk sense into Harbinger!  İf i might be able to put the same effort in game as i im do trying to help people in my real life, trying to overcome their burdens and receive no help at all, but nope, it won't work. Well at least i can manage to make peace between Geth and The Quarians lol. A real accomplishment there for me eh. 

But be true to your Krogan for once and he will come to hell with you no matter what till the end, care for Miri, earn her trust and she will be more than any other woman in the series for you. Show Garrus who he really is and errors of his ways, he will see them, accept them and be grateful to you and will become your eternal friend until the end of time.

İn Mass Effect you have the chance to become a modern day Socrates and have your chance of earning real love, respect, admiration of people you've met, you get along with, you spend your time with, you fought with.

Just don't take them away from us Bioware.

Just don't.

To many who got frustrated, got tired, got their hearts broken, got misunderstood, let down or got disappointed in real life, you just gave us hope through a game concept in a masterpiece of an art form.

Like as i was running away from all the complications that broke my heart through the years reading some classical literature or something alike, this experience was just went so deep in my soul, more than anything i've mentioned here.

İ just love them and don't care at all if this is just all synthetic life, a Geth consensus or something.

İf reality is what we perceive than i've been experiencing another reality for a while with me being Shepard.

Mass Effect is more than a game series, i hope you realize what you have come to accomplish all these years by creating the best alternative perception of reality for people like us, feel the way we feel like us out there.

Give us Shepard back, give our friends back, give our loved ones back. My crew did not put my name on the wall, Miri was waiting for me looking for a sign of me staring at the sun, and i just took a deep breath of life at the very end of my adventure.

Bioware, you just created a new form of art, you believe it or not. Realize it, accept it.

No way a single novel, a poem, song or a movie can have an impact on me like your story, the world you gave me.

İ am 29 years old, and have played truckload of games, read tons of books, no nothing even comes close to that.

İ' am literally in love with Mass Effect, with Garrus, with my Shepard, with Miranda, with Wrex, with Joker.

İ grew so attached to them all. 

The reality of they're all being fictional changes nothing for me, they are just so much more real than lots of thing in this self centered, only care about myself kind a world.

So give them back to us please, we don't recognize, perceive Mass Effect as just a video game. And i don't think your intentions of creating this universe were like lets just make an epic game.

That's my open letter to Mass Effect creators, to writers of Mass Effect.

İt is our love, child as much as yours.

You're more than a Game Devoloper Company to us. 

WE WANT SHEPARD, WE WANT OUR LOVE, WE WANT OUR FRİENDS, WE WANT OUR OTHER FORM OF REALİTY WE HAVE COME TO LOVE AND BE ABLE TO FEEL ALİVE İNSİDE MORE THAN THİS WHOLE REALİTY SOMETİMES.

Here my third love letter to you, to Mass Effect ends...

İ apprecieate and feel grateful for everything you've done for us and expecting you to not act with the cold sense of Shepards story is over, he has passed away, in fact which means your story is over in a way.

We deny him being dead. And we can continue this in our imagination if we had to but we will be more than happy if you just give him back to us.

Thank you for your time for reading this.

Modifié par urazoktay, 31 mars 2013 - 02:06 .

[ethos231]

@urazoktay I would've quoted your comment but it was to long.

But, I feel the same way as you do, I cry (manly) tears when ever something happens to my friends coz i care for them as much as i care for anyone, when Legion/Thane died, i cry every time, i love both of them, they are amazing and well written characters and it's just sad to see them die.

When Thessia is lost i feel the same way as Shepard and Liara, like shep because we lost the most amazing and beutiful planet and Liara because i hate to see her cry, her homeworld gets taken away from her, i just love her to much that it breaks my heart to see her cry. I was angry with Shep when Joker made the "joke" about the Asari, i wanted to do Javiks favorite thing, throwing him out the airlock.

Bioware did an amazing job with series, they made it feel like real life which most game commpanies dont do. The amount of characters i got attached to is just crazy, the whole Normandy Crew is amazing, we lost a few friends on the way to the end but they will be remember and be with us till the end of time. Liara......she is perfect, the voice, how she changes through out the game and her personality, i wish i knew someone like her in real life but i know for sure i wont because she is just to perfect, the amount of compassion and how she cares for Shepard since the begining is like no other, yes i know young males have a fascination with her race but its different for me, i care about her, i dont want to see her sad or angry, just happy all the time, her smile is just beutiful. I love you Liara T'Soni, i hope you're in the next game.

Raz, I respect you so much, reading everything you said just makes me remember all the amazing times ive had in the trilogy, also to say all that? It takes guts, you Sir are awesome hell the whole Mass Effect community is awesome, the best gaming community. You get all my respect amd Thank You for being one of the passionate Mass Effect players(i am as well) you deserve everything.

[urazoktay]

Revan111 wrote...

master of assassins wrote...

another idea i have for mass effect 4 would be with shepard and all mass effect crew members it would start off as the alliance finds shepard's body in the rubble barley clinging to life they get him to a hospital asap and hackett looks at his injuries and gets miranda to fix him up since she did in me2 and during his recovery the alliance gets reports of a creature looking like the reapers attacking colonies all over the galaxy and shepard over hears it and tells them its leviathan and shepard and crew gear up and find out what leviathan is up to and they find out leviathan is doing this to regain control as the apex of the galaxy and shepard has to stop leviathan before leviathan takes control of every organic in the galaxy and reestablishes their dominance as the apex predator and enslave every organic if bioware doesnt make a game about leviathan they will always remain a threat to the galaxy and if they don't have shepard in mass effect 4 have it so shepard's love interest becomes commander of the normandy

Did you you even play mass effect 3, did you even ****ing play it? This makes no sense what so ever first proplem most people would have gone for the control ending or synthisis ending so shepard's body would have been  
disintegrated so that ideas ****ed. Second proplem Miranda is ****ing dead you moron seriously I don't think you played this game at all. Third proplem Leviathans are ****ING sea creatures they have gills the reason they became the apex creatures was because they masted indoctrination they didn't conquer the other creatures with weapons they indoctrinated them using the artifacts they didn't fight back againist the Leviathans because they were primatives at the time and saw them as gods. Forth proplem even if the Levianthans were planing a galaxy wide takeover it wouldn't go well firstly they are stuck on a planet covered in water so they have no army secondly every one will know what to stay away from to stop themself's getting indoctrinated or just shoot the artifacts just to be safe, and third I always saw the Leviathans as a race that just wants to be left alone, happy just being left alone so I don't see them wanting war. Last proplem why would shepard's love interest get command of the Normandy the Normandy is not a family heirloom you give away in a will it is a ****ing stealth warship and I don't think just because they slept with shepard they have the right to command a military warship after shepard's death the crew propably do what they always do find a new backstory for the next game the Normandy will propably be given to admiral hackett or someone. So my final words are before you plan the forth game, PLAY THE ****ING THIRD ONE FIRST!     

Man, he played the game, stop being foolish.

He made some valid points, and created a logical continuation for ME 3.

How the hell can you say Miranda is dead as a fact. You should take lots of things into consideration and put some thought on this matter.

She was alive in my game. You realize that no matter you killed Wrex in the first game we were able to see him in other games and the Citadel DLC lol.

Miranda and Shepard was alive in my game at the end. So if you just screwed up and killed them doesnt mean Bioware wont be able to bring them back lol.

Do you really think that Mass Effect has not a ( even not being admitted ) canon storyline or even a canon ending.

He played the game bro, he may even had purchased the Leviathan dlc too.

İ suspect you did, he made some logical story continuation offeringsd there.

You just think what you choose in 3 games are so important that no matter what Shepard cant be brought back with Miranda or anyone else.

So Shepard and Miri was alive in my game, what say you lol?

Realize this, there is always a canon ending to a story, you choose control or synthesize like all you want. İt won't change the fact of MAss Effect's story will continue on Destroy ending which is the only logical ending to all we have done in the game yet and the only one which makes a continuation of events logical.

Choosing control or Synthesize only means you had been indoctrinated in the end and doomed the galaxy for good. Which can very well and will be ignored as story progresses on the next trilogy.

Control or Synthesize will never be accepted as canon, they contrast the very essence of Mass Effect, everything you've done in the series.

İt is so easy for Bioware to reject those 2 endings because they were just alternatives and traps for the real ending.

You just cant grasp this as a whole, that's all about it.

Mass Effect, in reality gives you only one option, only one way at the end to end its story.

There is only one ending to a story which being told the way Mass Effect did.

Mass Effect trilogy does have a driven story buried inside, you just choose the variables throughout the series.

Think about it.

You killed the last Rachni Queen, but it showed up again in ME 3. You killed Wrex, Wreav raplaced it in ME 3. 

İt has some degree of freedom of choice but not as much as you think due to its being an art form of storytelling.

No matter what you chose along the way, you just could not agree with SAREN or İM remember?

You just had to reject them, your only option was always HOW you rejected them.

Mass Effect gives you the freedom of choice to a degree, not as a whole, it restricts you brilliantly for the sake of the storytelling in ways you can still perceive it as it was all about your choices.

That's the trick, that's difference of telling masterpiece of a story and becoming all simulation.

Now if you did grasp the concept you may easily understand there was only one ending that being "high EMS destroy" in real.

Because no mattter your given freedom over the story arc, there was always a way the story dictated itself this way or that way.

And this is normal, in order to tell a story, to create a form of art, you have to have your own ideas and choices.

Mass Effect gives you the free choice of becoming the PERSON you want to be, this is its real offer on freedom of choice.

NOT HOW İTS STORY CONCLUDES.

Regardless of what you've done, you just did not have the whole control of the narrative at all.

Just for you to know.

No matter if you're a paragon saint or a full throttle Renegade the "destroy" ending was the only option both a paragon or renagede Shepard would choose.

İt was given through out the whole series, especially the last one, it was hinted everywhere.

Even EDİ was ready to die rather than be a part of Reaper community lol. Yet you choose Syntesize ( become the SAREN ! ) or CONTOL ( İllusive Mas committed suicide just for you believing he was right afterwards lol ) and ruin the Galaxy forever lol.

You get it now?

The freedom of choice you had was really all about key events, minor and some major substories and in turn how they shaped your character as a whole in your journey.

Main Plot, some main key points and the ending was always there for the sake of storytelling.

Like no matter what you would never be able to side with Saren or İ Man's way of thinking. No matter what you did, Reapers came and destroyed half the known Galaxy.

Main story had its way of progressing further and you had the oppotunity of help shape it to a degree. But what you really shaped was YOUR CHARACTER through your choices.

That was the real deal Bioware offered.

You have a false perception of that you were given full freedom over everything but it was never been the real case right from the first game.

You killed the council or what? You just had to unite the whole Galaxy however in ME 3 right?

You get the point?

So, there is no reason to think Synthesize or Control have a meaning after all.

Destroy was the only option yo had, only right thing to do also.

Mass Effect will do continue with Reapers being destroyed by Shepard.

İ give you my advice, take my word for it. Go play the series again, you'll understand that it was always progressed by a driven story at some key points. 

You shaped the story and your character by doing so, but when it came to some points you just had one option, it was like that.

Control and Synthesize was just the illusions of free choice both in game and in real life lol.

Don't fall for it twice.

The only logical coclusion the story dictates, ( cause it has a driven story no matter how you shaped it ) leads to Destroy ending. No matter paragon or renagade. İt was told you by Anderson, Javik, Edi, Legion, Wrex, Garrus, Hackett everyone in the last game, they told you to do the right thing no matter what, destroy the Reapers no matter what, even Destroyer Reaper on Rannoch warned you that they will be there in the end to trick you into doing otherwise.

İt was all hinted through the game.

That, you, actually had no ****ing choice but to destroy them all.

Those other two options were just illusions of doing the right thing, traps of Harbinger, last attempt to indoctrinate you.

There is still people who just can't realize that the child they spoke with was Harbinger in fact and not a new character that was being introduced to them in these final moments.

İt was indeed Harbinger, just trying to trick you desperataley for the sake of his and rest of the Reapers very own existence, that's it.

Modifié par urazoktay, 31 mars 2013 - 08:12 .

[urazoktay]

ethos231 wrote...

@urazoktay I would've quoted your comment but it was to long.

But, I feel the same way as you do, I cry (manly) tears when ever something happens to my friends coz i care for them as much as i care for anyone, when Legion/Thane died, i cry every time, i love both of them, they are amazing and well written characters and it's just sad to see them die.

When Thessia is lost i feel the same way as Shepard and Liara, like shep because we lost the most amazing and beutiful planet and Liara because i hate to see her cry, her homeworld gets taken away from her, i just love her to much that it breaks my heart to see her cry. I was angry with Shep when Joker made the "joke" about the Asari, i wanted to do Javiks favorite thing, throwing him out the airlock.

Bioware did an amazing job with series, they made it feel like real life which most game commpanies dont do. The amount of characters i got attached to is just crazy, the whole Normandy Crew is amazing, we lost a few friends on the way to the end but they will be remember and be with us till the end of time. Liara......she is perfect, the voice, how she changes through out the game and her personality, i wish i knew someone like her in real life but i know for sure i wont because she is just to perfect, the amount of compassion and how she cares for Shepard since the begining is like no other, yes i know young males have a fascination with her race but its different for me, i care about her, i dont want to see her sad or angry, just happy all the time, her smile is just beutiful. I love you Liara T'Soni, i hope you're in the next game.

Raz, I respect you so much, reading everything you said just makes me remember all the amazing times ive had in the trilogy, also to say all that? It takes guts, you Sir are awesome hell the whole Mass Effect community is awesome, the best gaming community. You get all my respect amd Thank You for being one of the passionate Mass Effect players(i am as well) you deserve everything.

Thank you for all your compliments and lovely attitude man. İ really wasn't expecting anyone to even care to read all those long texts. But i just couldn't help myself but write them all down.

They are all love letters for who feels the same way i do towards this very special thing Bioware gave us. İ just can't name it really. İt is just way more just than the world we happen to live, i would left this world without a single thought and join to Wrex, Garrus, Shephard, Liara, Miranda given the chance lol.

About Liara, yes, to contrary of Miranda's genetical perfection ( actually she is not, she can't conceive a child due to her genetic tailoring's side effects. ) the real Perfect Woman was always Liara.

She was just like heaven sent really. Maybe the big change Miranda went through was just miraculous and heart touching for me.

İf you ever happen to romance her and stay true to her you gonna realize that she is the only woman that comes close to Liara with a human mind and soul. My point is Liara is perfect yes, but it has something to do being an Asari as well as she is being really a special character.

İ got attached to Miranda in a way that i can't even describe it. Even after Lair of The Shadow Broker, where you can find some unpleasant and cold, emotionless attiude towards life in her past in SB's dossiers. But she was so much more than that. Had so much potential in her, i went for it.

Come to think of it, Liara and Miranda were the only females that can overcome their problems without your help and yet again the only ones who really loved Shephard with all their hearts.

Maybe you won't believe me but let me tell you this anyway. İ was that much into roleplaying that i feared  broking Liara's heart so much that i did not ever never went her room and start that conversation where i had to face her " what about us" question till the end of the game.

İ just couldn't say sorry but no to her. But i could never abondon Miri either. So i made sure that talk never took place in the first place.

You know what happened, she understands over time and last time in citadel she just told me that she will always want me in her life as a friend. And she gave me this gift in the end, but she did not kissed me, just put her head to my shoulder and watch the white light coming towards us in peace.

Than she thanked me for everything.

And before all this i made a promise to Miranda that i will be back for the first time, and damn i'm alive, she is waiting, not loosing hope just like my crew on Normandy...

İt was really hard to recover from even the high EMS Destroy ending man. You know you're alive but you just want to hug your friends your lover dammit!

Find Shepard ! That will be cool or even better for me Find Miranda! Or unite the whole goddamn galaxy, find everyone! 

İt's wonderful to know there are peole like me out there who share similar passion and love towards this epicness of a journey called Mass Effect.

And i thank you with all my heart for giving your precious time and sympathesing with me.

Hearing all those ugly things from people time to time, i just can't help but think which one is the real thing. The one who really can make me to feel attached to itself only with some coding and textures or those supposed to be " real " people around me, without a lean towards empathy or sympathy.

İ just don't remember anyone who really made me cry out of noble feelings, just through pain or alike...

When Mordin did the right thing, tears came from my eyes, when Wrex was aware that we did cure the Genophage "a future for Krogan" was playing aaand guess what, i was feeling everything Wrex was at the moment, tears continues...

Those moments, i just lived them, they were real. İ just dont remember those kind of things in my life for a very long time.

And only someday i somehow manage to find my place with friends like Garrus, Wrex i will remember them helping me stay alive and not loosing my hope for a better future...

They are my friends, end of the story, i love them, literally.

Reality is just your perception of things.

And sometimes you find in a game like this. Oh by the way i had never grew so attached to any kind of game or even in classical literature, a poem, a movie... No nothing ever made me feel this way before. 

İ am literally happy being part of it. İ mean even with a sad ending. Cause i have hope maybe. İ see her waiting for me, my crew not believing that i was dead, my last breath, Stargazer telling the little boy, " ok, one more story about Shepard."

That's a fool's hope maybe but i'm holding to it no matter what.

And you my friend is now a part of this story for me, sharing the same love for Mass Effect. The very reason of your passion and the way you got attached to this thing makes you my buddy.  İt's just wonderful to know there are people who can feel, relate themselves to same ideals as you do. Sometimes real life is just not cutting it.

You give all you can, receive even maybe half of it. Then, to hell with it, Garrus is my man! 
Oh by the way the thing with Liara, that you can't bear witness her crying is just same here with Miri. Just out of curiosity i rejected her ( take a goddamn save before of course ) in the last game, she cried, turned her back, trying to hid her desperation and torn soul, broken heart.

İ felt like i was going to die, seeing her like that, man, i was literally in love with her. İ just couldn't stand her crying, i was never meant to do it anyways but yet again i filled with guilt and agony, sorrow...

And when that moment came and i broke the damn sword of Kai Leng and put him to rest with my omni blade i was yelling " this is for Thane you son of a ****! " İ felt that one within me.

Mass Effect 2... Man, i can't even start to describe how awesome it was.

The first one?

İ was in total shock!

İt was nothing like i have yet to experience. İt was just awesome. İ remember being floored when the inevitable moment of choice between Kaidan and Ashley came at last. İt took more than 1 hour to be able to decide.

Letting the Rachni live or killing it. That one was really diffucult too.

ME 2, it was unique in every way. Damn all of them are unique in their own terms.

Waiting for more to come. 

My only concern nowadays is how may i even be able to get into a new game's atmosphere again. İ may be one of the biggest Starcraft fans out there, purchased the HOTS CE at launch but did not even load it to my computer lol.

For last 3 months i was all in ME universe... And considering to return to it once more. Mass Effect was so special to me, the first experiance years ago, that i just waited the right moment to play them all in a row. So i read nothing about the second one, third one, and i was dumbstruck with the awesomeness of the second game a month ago for the first time. İ just waited for the right moment to come for Mass Effect. İ never done such a thing to anything, no video game. İt was special tom me, i knew it after i finished Mass Effect for the very first time years ago. 

İ played the first game when it was realeased, then i dont know why but, even i bought the second one, collectors edition version, i just did not play it, then third one came. İ just run away from them like vermin, manage to overcome getting spoiled somehow, and finally when i thought it was the time, i played them all with all their DLC's, reading all the codex, doing everything, playing all in insanity in a single row of more than 300 hours, yea i just stayed there as long as i could, even listening news, watching commercials, harvesting every single planet to exhaustion lol, i just didn't want to end, it was just plain beatiful. Playing all of them in a row, knowing only the first one- i played it again for the continuation feel, took 80 hours, ME 2 120 hours, last one 140 with some multi, it was unique, this maybe the very reason i guess helped me get the whole idea of it, ME 3 was a wonderful game in my books, but has a depressing end, but it was normal, the main theme of ME 3 was desperation, being not able to help everyone, but yes we want closure, and i believe it will come with a new game sometime. They just did not want to kill him,her i guess even they say otherwise.

Take care my friend.

Modifié par urazoktay, 31 mars 2013 - 10:29 .

[SHEPARD 38]

Of coarse they confirmed it...but I'd guess late 2014,early 15

[master of assassins]

to Revan111 comment yes ive played mass effect 3 ive played it so many times i could beat it in my sleep and yes miranda can live if she doesnt die in the suicide mission in me2 or her father doesnt kill her and shepard can live if you pick destroy and i have all the dlc for me3 and yes i know miranda cant carry a child have you ever heard of adoption or someone carrying the child for them as far im concerned the romance between shepard and miranda is the best one its more real and they truly love eachother unlike the one with ashley or liara and the ending what the hell is with that just leaving shepard in a pile of rubble if you pick destroy how is shepard and his love interest supposed to have the future they talk about for example liara and shepard talk about having kids and getting married and growing old together hows that suppose to happen when shepard is in a pile of rubble and his love interest is on the normandy or on some planet there's a big void there that bioware needs to fix hell i even know how they could fix it during the citadel dlc mission when you fight your clone on the normandy instead of shepard killing him or the clone killing himself shepard saves him and lets him live and when it comes time for the extraction in the final assault against the reapers mission shepard trades places with the clone the reapers would be none the wiser and shepard would get rid of his clone and be able to settle down with his love interest and thats how bioware could fix that void with all shepard's been through he deserves to have a happy ending and bioware needs to grow a pair not let EA push them around and rush the game release that's when you run into problems like receiving a lot of complaints or breaking promises which bioware did for me3 do the next game right

[urazoktay]

master of assassins wrote...

to Revan111 comment yes ive played mass effect 3 ive played it so many times i could beat it in my sleep and yes miranda can live if she doesnt die in the suicide mission in me2 or her father doesnt kill her and shepard can live if you pick destroy and i have all the dlc for me3 and yes i know miranda cant carry a child have you ever heard of adoption or someone carrying the child for them as far im concerned the romance between shepard and miranda is the best one its more real and they truly love eachother unlike the one with ashley or liara and the ending what the hell is with that just leaving shepard in a pile of rubble if you pick destroy how is shepard and his love interest supposed to have the future they talk about for example liara and shepard talk about having kids and getting married and growing old together hows that suppose to happen when shepard is in a pile of rubble and his love interest is on the normandy or on some planet there's a big void there that bioware needs to fix hell i even know how they could fix it during the citadel dlc mission when you fight your clone on the normandy instead of shepard killing him or the clone killing himself shepard saves him and lets him live and when it comes time for the extraction in the final assault against the reapers mission shepard trades places with the clone the reapers would be none the wiser and shepard would get rid of his clone and be able to settle down with his love interest and thats how bioware could fix that void with all shepard's been through he deserves to have a happy ending and bioware needs to grow a pair not let EA push them around and rush the game release that's when you run into problems like receiving a lot of complaints or breaking promises which bioware did for me3 do the next game right

Dude, im with you all the way. İ romanced Miranda just like you, and i even did not care if she could have a baby or not.

İ just can't stand her being sad.

Read my posts if you want, there was always a canon ending, it was high EMS Destroy. Shepard is alive. İts just that, read them, you'll understand why i say so...

[urazoktay]

master of assassins wrote...

to Revan111 comment yes ive played mass effect 3 ive played it so many times i could beat it in my sleep and yes miranda can live if she doesnt die in the suicide mission in me2 or her father doesnt kill her and shepard can live if you pick destroy and i have all the dlc for me3 and yes i know miranda cant carry a child have you ever heard of adoption or someone carrying the child for them as far im concerned the romance between shepard and miranda is the best one its more real and they truly love eachother unlike the one with ashley or liara and the ending what the hell is with that just leaving shepard in a pile of rubble if you pick destroy how is shepard and his love interest supposed to have the future they talk about for example liara and shepard talk about having kids and getting married and growing old together hows that suppose to happen when shepard is in a pile of rubble and his love interest is on the normandy or on some planet there's a big void there that bioware needs to fix hell i even know how they could fix it during the citadel dlc mission when you fight your clone on the normandy instead of shepard killing him or the clone killing himself shepard saves him and lets him live and when it comes time for the extraction in the final assault against the reapers mission shepard trades places with the clone the reapers would be none the wiser and shepard would get rid of his clone and be able to settle down with his love interest and thats how bioware could fix that void with all shepard's been through he deserves to have a happy ending and bioware needs to grow a pair not let EA push them around and rush the game release that's when you run into problems like receiving a lot of complaints or breaking promises which bioware did for me3 do the next game right

Oh by the way, as i see it, the true love is Miranda for Shepard, i sensed it and went for it. She is the only character who can't carry the weight of you rejecting her and burst into tears, she is the only one for Shepard in my book.
And i loved her with all my heart. Liara comes after her for me. The only two strong woman characters in whole series that can match Shepard, but most likely Miranda i think.

[Revan111]

urazoktay wrote...

Revan111 wrote...

master of assassins wrote...

another idea i have for mass effect 4 would be with shepard and all mass effect crew members it would start off as the alliance finds shepard's body in the rubble barley clinging to life they get him to a hospital asap and hackett looks at his injuries and gets miranda to fix him up since she did in me2 and during his recovery the alliance gets reports of a creature looking like the reapers attacking colonies all over the galaxy and shepard over hears it and tells them its leviathan and shepard and crew gear up and find out what leviathan is up to and they find out leviathan is doing this to regain control as the apex of the galaxy and shepard has to stop leviathan before leviathan takes control of every organic in the galaxy and reestablishes their dominance as the apex predator and enslave every organic if bioware doesnt make a game about leviathan they will always remain a threat to the galaxy and if they don't have shepard in mass effect 4 have it so shepard's love interest becomes commander of the normandy

Did you you even play mass effect 3, did you even ****ing play it? This makes no sense what so ever first proplem most people would have gone for the control ending or synthisis ending so shepard's body would have been  
disintegrated so that ideas ****ed. Second proplem Miranda is ****ing dead you moron seriously I don't think you played this game at all. Third proplem Leviathans are ****ING sea creatures they have gills the reason they became the apex creatures was because they masted indoctrination they didn't conquer the other creatures with weapons they indoctrinated them using the artifacts they didn't fight back againist the Leviathans because they were primatives at the time and saw them as gods. Forth proplem even if the Levianthans were planing a galaxy wide takeover it wouldn't go well firstly they are stuck on a planet covered in water so they have no army secondly every one will know what to stay away from to stop themself's getting indoctrinated or just shoot the artifacts just to be safe, and third I always saw the Leviathans as a race that just wants to be left alone, happy just being left alone so I don't see them wanting war. Last proplem why would shepard's love interest get command of the Normandy the Normandy is not a family heirloom you give away in a will it is a ****ing stealth warship and I don't think just because they slept with shepard they have the right to command a military warship after shepard's death the crew propably do what they always do find a new backstory for the next game the Normandy will propably be given to admiral hackett or someone. So my final words are before you plan the forth game, PLAY THE ****ING THIRD ONE FIRST!     

Man, he played the game, stop being foolish.

He made some valid points, and created a logical continuation for ME 3.

How the hell can you say Miranda is dead as a fact. You should take lots of things into consideration and put some thought on this matter.

She was alive in my game. You realize that no matter you killed Wrex in the first game we were able to see him in other games and the Citadel DLC lol.

Miranda and Shepard was alive in my game at the end. So if you just screwed up and killed them doesnt mean Bioware wont be able to bring them back lol.

Do you really think that Mass Effect has not a ( even not being admitted ) canon storyline or even a canon ending.

He played the game bro, he may even had purchased the Leviathan dlc too.

İ suspect you did, he made some logical story continuation offeringsd there.

You just think what you choose in 3 games are so important that no matter what Shepard cant be brought back with Miranda or anyone else.

So Shepard and Miri was alive in my game, what say you lol?

Realize this, there is always a canon ending to a story, you choose control or synthesize like all you want. İt won't change the fact of MAss Effect's story will continue on Destroy ending which is the only logical ending to all we have done in the game yet and the only one which makes a continuation of events logical.

Choosing control or Synthesize only means you had been indoctrinated in the end and doomed the galaxy for good. Which can very well and will be ignored as story progresses on the next trilogy.

Control or Synthesize will never be accepted as canon, they contrast the very essence of Mass Effect, everything you've done in the series.

İt is so easy for Bioware to reject those 2 endings because they were just alternatives and traps for the real ending.

You just cant grasp this as a whole, that's all about it.

Mass Effect, in reality gives you only one option, only one way at the end to end its story.

There is only one ending to a story which being told the way Mass Effect did.

Mass Effect trilogy does have a driven story buried inside, you just choose the variables throughout the series.

Think about it.

You killed the last Rachni Queen, but it showed up again in ME 3. You killed Wrex, Wreav raplaced it in ME 3. 

İt has some degree of freedom of choice but not as much as you think due to its being an art form of storytelling.

No matter what you chose along the way, you just could not agree with SAREN or İM remember?

You just had to reject them, your only option was always HOW you rejected them.

Mass Effect gives you the freedom of choice to a degree, not as a whole, it restricts you brilliantly for the sake of the storytelling in ways you can still perceive it as it was all about your choices.

That's the trick, that's difference of telling masterpiece of a story and becoming all simulation.

Now if you did grasp the concept you may easily understand there was only one ending that being "high EMS destroy" in real.

Because no mattter your given freedom over the story arc, there was always a way the story dictated itself this way or that way.

And this is normal, in order to tell a story, to create a form of art, you have to have your own ideas and choices.

Mass Effect gives you the free choice of becoming the PERSON you want to be, this is its real offer on freedom of choice.

NOT HOW İTS STORY CONCLUDES.

Regardless of what you've done, you just did not have the whole control of the narrative at all.

Just for you to know.

No matter if you're a paragon saint or a full throttle Renegade the "destroy" ending was the only option both a paragon or renagede Shepard would choose.

İt was given through out the whole series, especially the last one, it was hinted everywhere.

Even EDİ was ready to die rather than be a part of Reaper community lol. Yet you choose Syntesize ( become the SAREN ! ) or CONTOL ( İllusive Mas committed suicide just for you believing he was right afterwards lol ) and ruin the Galaxy forever lol.

You get it now?

The freedom of choice you had was really all about key events, minor and some major substories and in turn how they shaped your character as a whole in your journey.

Main Plot, some main key points and the ending was always there for the sake of storytelling.

Like no matter what you would never be able to side with Saren or İ Man's way of thinking. No matter what you did, Reapers came and destroyed half the known Galaxy.

Main story had its way of progressing further and you had the oppotunity of help shape it to a degree. But what you really shaped was YOUR CHARACTER through your choices.

That was the real deal Bioware offered.

You have a false perception of that you were given full freedom over everything but it was never been the real case right from the first game.

You killed the council or what? You just had to unite the whole Galaxy however in ME 3 right?

You get the point?

So, there is no reason to think Synthesize or Control have a meaning after all.

Destroy was the only option yo had, only right thing to do also.

Mass Effect will do continue with Reapers being destroyed by Shepard.

İ give you my advice, take my word for it. Go play the series again, you'll understand that it was always progressed by a driven story at some key points. 

You shaped the story and your character by doing so, but when it came to some points you just had one option, it was like that.

Control and Synthesize was just the illusions of free choice both in game and in real life lol.

Don't fall for it twice.

The only logical coclusion the story dictates, ( cause it has a driven story no matter how you shaped it ) leads to Destroy ending. No matter paragon or renagade. İt was told you by Anderson, Javik, Edi, Legion, Wrex, Garrus, Hackett everyone in the last game, they told you to do the right thing no matter what, destroy the Reapers no matter what, even Destroyer Reaper on Rannoch warned you that they will be there in the end to trick you into doing otherwise.

İt was all hinted through the game.

That, you, actually had no ****ing choice but to destroy them all.

Those other two options were just illusions of doing the right thing, traps of Harbinger, last attempt to indoctrinate you.

There is still people who just can't realize that the child they spoke with was Harbinger in fact and not a new character that was being introduced to them in these final moments.

İt was indeed Harbinger, just trying to trick you desperataley for the sake of his and rest of the Reapers very own existence, that's it.

What the **** are you talking about seriously WTF. You start talking about how I was wrong about Miranda which I was sorry propably should have reseached that better but everyone I talked to said Miranda died in thier game as well so for me and my freinds to play mass effect 4 we need to start the game again and save Miranda, **** YOU I'm not sitting on my ass for another 30 hours just to save miranda that **** can **** off and also I don't think cerberus will bring her back when the illussive man is just lying there waiting to be resurected and the alliance has lost dozens of amirals and generals so I don't think a rouge cerberus agent is on the top of their bring back to life list and they wouldn't even bring back shepard back to life again because they need to rebuild earth and countless other planets but if shepard was still breathing I guess they would give him top medical support. And then you go off telling me about the indoctronation theory, I all ready know it I think it is a good theory but bioware has denided that theory so all endings are canon no matter what you say. But I have something to ask you did you read all of assassins and my posts because you mainly just call me out on my first and second points and not the other three, you just say "yes his is logical because of the destroy ending and it has Miranda the rest about the space traviling giant squids is not important, now let me tell you about the indoctriantion theory and why it should work but bioware says no to it" I mean you agree with him but not me because I chose synthisis ending and he chose the destroy ending, thats bull**** and you are a ****, ****** and **** combinded into one. 

[Revan111]

master of assassins wrote...

to Revan111 comment yes ive played mass effect 3 ive played it so many times i could beat it in my sleep and yes miranda can live if she doesnt die in the suicide mission in me2 or her father doesnt kill her and shepard can live if you pick destroy and i have all the dlc for me3 and yes i know miranda cant carry a child have you ever heard of adoption or someone carrying the child for them as far im concerned the romance between shepard and miranda is the best one its more real and they truly love eachother unlike the one with ashley or liara and the ending what the hell is with that just leaving shepard in a pile of rubble if you pick destroy how is shepard and his love interest supposed to have the future they talk about for example liara and shepard talk about having kids and getting married and growing old together hows that suppose to happen when shepard is in a pile of rubble and his love interest is on the normandy or on some planet there's a big void there that bioware needs to fix hell i even know how they could fix it during the citadel dlc mission when you fight your clone on the normandy instead of shepard killing him or the clone killing himself shepard saves him and lets him live and when it comes time for the extraction in the final assault against the reapers mission shepard trades places with the clone the reapers would be none the wiser and shepard would get rid of his clone and be able to settle down with his love interest and thats how bioware could fix that void with all shepard's been through he deserves to have a happy ending and bioware needs to grow a pair not let EA push them around and rush the game release that's when you run into problems like receiving a lot of complaints or breaking promises which bioware did for me3 do the next game right

Yes sorry about the Miranda thing I didn't look into that as well as I should of so i'm the idiot there. But I do not remember saying anything about Miranda not having babies I didn't even know that ( I always romance Tali in mass effect 2 as a male shepard but I would usally play as a femshep because the voice is better and I had a good facecode for her.) It wasn't really the Miranda thing that made me think you didn't play it, it was the leviathan thing that made me think that. But the clone thing you just metioned is a great idea that would be a great ending for shepard and then we can move on to different people. Hopefully the next game will have a choice of species, a new setting and a new enemies that aren't working for the reapers for a change.

[master of assassins]

Revan111 does make a valid point about the indoctrination theory cause at the beginning of the game shepard see's the little boy but nobody else does and shepard talks to him in the citadel and the boy tells shepard he's the catylist and he controls the reapers but then again bioware also makes a valid point that it doesnt exists cause if shepard was indoctrinated he wouldn't be able to destroy the reapers or control the boy would force him to choose synthesis cause that's the reapers ultimate goal