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Ultimate Sacrifice/Awakening Import Explained


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#26
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Crunchyinmilk wrote...
I'm sure Alistair and Anders have no reason to wax lyrical with Hawke about the personal details of the Warden. Will you really feel the need to pester them and find out if they remember what colour your Warden's eyes are (and squee when they get it right).


It would be hilarious though.

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A ton of things from ME1 changed ME2

And it was bioware that brought up the import thing

If it wont have much change at all then why bring it up?  Marketing?


I disagree. A fair amount of things from ME1 were mentioned in ME2, but the ME2 story was written in such a way that they had no real impact. Regardless of what you did at the end of ME1, the political situation in the galaxy at the start of ME2 is exactly the same, as are your options when dealing with Cerberus. The fact they changed a few lines of dialogue to reflect your other choices was a nice gesture... but just that.

The same exact thing will happen with DA - the story of DA2 is almost certainly written in such a way that it won't matter whether the main DAO character lived or died, but depending on your choices you might get a short cameo apperance by DAO character A instead of DAO character B, and a few lines of dialogue will be different.

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JulianoV wrote...

@DavidSims: And this is why I respect and adore Bioware so much.

Thank you =D


I would adore and respect them more if you could play as the Orlesian with an import US save or even if your Warden survived but went back to Orzammar, his clan, to travel w/LI, etc.  But maybe my standards are just too hogh.

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DavidSims wrote...

If you import an ultimate sacrifice warden into Awakening and then into DA2, all of your choices will be recognized, or at least recorded for future recognition. To avoid the contradiction, we are deliberately vague about who the "Warden Commander" was whenever referencing choices made in Awakening. That is true regardless of what you import.


Have a quick question... does any of DLC content decisions will be imported into DA2? Like Stone prisoner, Soldier Peak and witch hunt?

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DavidSims wrote...

If you import an ultimate sacrifice warden into Awakening and then into DA2, all of your choices will be recognized, or at least recorded for future recognition. To avoid the contradiction, we are deliberately vague about who the "Warden Commander" was whenever referencing choices made in Awakening. That is true regardless of what you import.


And what about the ritual if you HAVE performed it, but morrigan does not recognise so in witch hunt (Even with the patch)....

While importing from the Witch Hunt autosave:
Will it take the info from origins (which does acknowledge it) or Witch hunt (which does not acknowledge it)?

Quite important regarding which file to import...

Thanks in advance,

Modifié par Knal1991, 03 mars 2011 - 01:38 .


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Darkhour wrote...

JulianoV wrote...

@DavidSims: And this is why I respect and adore Bioware so much.

Thank you =D


I would adore and respect them more if you could play as the Orlesian with an import US save or even if your Warden survived but went back to Orzammar, his clan, to travel w/LI, etc.  But maybe my standards are just too hogh.


I was refering to the celerity of the response. I myself didn't pursue the course of action you mentioned, but I feel genuinely bad for anyone who did.

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Gabriel S.

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DavidSims wrote...

If you import an ultimate sacrifice warden into Awakening and then into DA2, all of your choices will be recognized, or at least recorded for future recognition. To avoid the contradiction, we are deliberately vague about who the "Warden Commander" was whenever referencing choices made in Awakening. That is true regardless of what you import.


Eeeeeh, WHAT?! :o

So Anders isn't going to somehow mention that his commander, the person that possibly recruited him was also the king or the Hero of Ferelden?

Won't this subject come up if you're talking to him about his past? Or does he not talk about it at all?

Modifié par Gabriel Stelinski, 03 mars 2011 - 03:55 .


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The Warden just got relegated to MMO PC status. Doesn't exist, but did things.

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Crunchyinmilk wrote...

mmu1 wrote...

I think the question has been answered:

"We want to be able to say without (technically) lying that the choices you made in DAO mattered, but it would have been way too complicated to implement, so we designed DA2 in such a way that your choices won't really affect the big picture at all."


I didn't read it that way at all.  I read it more that events matter in your import, more than what race or class you played or who you kissed behind the bleachers at school.
 
Would you rather they handwave your failure to embrace the ultimate sacrifice choice you made in Origins. You could have stuck with the story and re-rolled a new warden instead of embracing convenience.

I'm sure Alistair and Anders have no reason to wax lyrical with Hawke about the personal details of the Warden. Will you really feel the need to pester them and find out if they remember what colour your Warden's eyes are (and squee when they get it right).


Lol...I'll admit I would love it if things could be more detailed (and I would totally squee), but of course that is just too complicated and I'm sure too costly from Bioware's standpoint.  I'm just grateful that we have an import option and to have the important events count even in a minor way is more than fine by me.  What is it that people expect?  This isn't Mass Effect; we aren't playing the same main character...let it go people.  Embrace Hawke and enjoy the few lines/differences your save game makes in DA2.

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DavidSims wrote...

If you import an ultimate sacrifice warden into Awakening and then into DA2, all of your choices will be recognized, or at least recorded for future recognition. To avoid the contradiction, we are deliberately vague about who the "Warden Commander" was whenever referencing choices made in Awakening. That is true regardless of what you import.


Thank you soooooooooo much for answering this question (again?).  I just finished playing DAO for a 2nd time and decided to make the ultimate sacrifice.  I assumed this would make Awakenings take place before the events of Fort Drakon...when I realized I was playing a resurrected warden I became concerned about how this would translate into the import.

I admit it does annoy me that an adjustment could not be made in Awakenings that make the game take a save file from let's say before the Landsmeet.  This way you are still alive and Awakenings could be a side quest that Riordan sends you on before you can take on the archdemon.  I may make the baby deal with Morrigan again to avoid the sloppy resurrection slap even if import choices I made with zombie warden dont make a difference from a living warden import in Dragon Age 2...I'll still know that the continuity is off and that will bug me.

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Gabriel S.

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Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

DavidSims wrote...

If you import an ultimate sacrifice warden into Awakening and then into DA2, all of your choices will be recognized, or at least recorded for future recognition. To avoid the contradiction, we are deliberately vague about who the "Warden Commander" was whenever referencing choices made in Awakening. That is true regardless of what you import.


Eeeeeh, WHAT?! :o

So Anders isn't going to somehow mention that his commander, the person that possibly recruited him was also the king or the Hero of Ferelden?

Won't this subject come up if you're talking to him about his past? Or does he not talk about it at all?


Should I take the lack of response as a NO? :huh:

Okay, then. :)