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[Darji]

I think this long article sums it up very well for Dragon Age 2.

Here is some small quote.

Like many other developers, BioWare have made their three main cRPG series into Action-RPGs with Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age 2 and Star Wars: The Old Republic.
There is no doubt that these will be great games, but the problem is
that they have been sculpted to what will sell, rather than making the
gaming experience that a number of players are struggling to find
nowadays. The market has always been driven by sales, but nowadays the
publishers and producers are sacrificing genres in order to make more
money. As said previously, Dragon Age: Origins was a commercial
success so there was no real need to change the game so dramatically.
This declination is inextricably tied in to the popularity of consoles
over PCs amongst today’s gamers. As gaming spreads to mass audiences,
producers and publishers are lured by the money that comes along with
it. In this case it seems that EA have encouraged BioWare to open up the
game to a bigger audience, and in doing so have lost many aspects of
the genre it once was.

www.hookedgamers.com/editorials/2011/03/02/dragon_age_ii_the_decline_of_the_classic_rpg.html

But people should read the rest too.

[Skilled Seeker]

Ridiculous. SW:TOR is a PC exclusive. How in the world is it an action RPG and what in the world does it have to do with consoles. Stupid article.

[jacobdg]

It has the same feel of Origins, you should all stop trolling.

[Narrsan]

His opinion is not mine! THE FIEND!!!!!

[steelfire_dragon]

.... just becuase thats what it says does not make it so....

a company is in buisiness to make money....

[October Sixth]

jacobdg wrote...

It has the same feel of Origins to me, you should all stop having opinions that disagree with mine.

[Maria Caliban]

Everything BioWare has made since BG II has been labeled the decline of the classic RPG.

[ToJKa1]

That reminds me, i haven't watched this weeks Zero Punctuation yet. (Edit: Heh, Two Wolds 2, how fitting ).

On topic, i personally don't care if a game follows a genre to the letter, if it's a good game, it's a good game, and that is enough.

Modifié par ToJKa1, 03 mars 2011 - 12:44 .

[Darji]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Everything BioWare has made since BG II has been labeled the decline of the classic RPG.

^Yes it is but Origins went back to the glory days again. Back to the days of a baldurs Gate feeling. It wasnt quite there yet of course but it feels much closer to this than any other game since Kotor.

[jacobdg]

Heres the sad truth: You all complain because you follow the crowd.

Modifié par jacobdg, 03 mars 2011 - 12:45 .

[Cuthlan]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Everything BioWare has made since BG II has been labeled the decline of the classic RPG.

Heck, there were even people that complained about BGII's changes from the original BG.

[falconlord5]

I agree with Skilled Seeker, the part about SWTOR is pure BS. It's an MMO for pete's sake, doesn't have a damned thing to do with consoles or the so-called classic RPG.

[Narrsan]

jacobdg wrote...

Heres the sad truth: You all complain because you follow the crowd.

Icwhatudidthere

[October Sixth]

Cuthlan wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Everything BioWare has made since BG II has been labeled the decline of the classic RPG.

Heck, there were even people that complained about BGII's changes from the original BG.

I believe Sylvius still does that, 10 years later.

[Maconbar]

ToJKa1 wrote...

That reminds me, i haven't watched this weeks Zero Punctuation yet. (Edit: Heh, Two Wolds 2, how fitting ).

On topic, i personally don't care if a game follows a genre to the letter, if it's a good game, it's a good game, and that is enough.

I watched it earlier today. Well worth it.

[Daniteh]

incoming lock 3,2,1, go.

[Nefario]

Yeah... the first sentence in the quoted blurb seems to imply that Mass Effect and KOTOR were cRPG series, so I didn't bother reading the rest. Lamenting the disappearance of the classical cRPG is all well and fine if that's your viewpoint, but I loathe revisionist history.

[AdmiralCheez]

Eh. Old-school RPGs are a bit too tedious for my tastes, anyway.

[iamrawn]

Narrsan wrote...

jacobdg wrote...

Heres the sad truth: You all complain because you follow the crowd.

Icwhatudidthere

The sad truth is that you're an idiot. People's opinions are the same so it's following the crowd? Per-lease.

[AustinKain]

Well if all the complainers want to go back to classIC rpgs then we would all be playing TEXT based rpgs like ZORK.

If you want that keep complaining otherwise please shut the heck up.

[Klace]

Good riddance I say. It's time we moved on.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

**** classic RPGs. **** them in the ancient, withered asses. I'm here for a great story. If BioWare keeps coming up with new and better ways to tell stories, they keep getting my money. It's simple.

[Anathemic]

Agree with the article.

As for the SW:TOR bit, when did action rpgs have to be console only? Diablo and Dungeon Siege would like to have a word with you.

[drahelvete]

Just like the Infinity games and other "old school" RPGs replaced the REALLY old school RPGs, like the Ultima games, and changed the entire genre. I know a lot of people who hated the Baldur's Gate games when they first came out. "They're not real RPGs blah blah". Pretty much the same arguments that we hear now.
Evolution or devolution, call it whatever you want, but resistance is futile.

Modifié par drahelvete, 03 mars 2011 - 01:52 .

[Pcrews]

Ugh I hate these threads. EVERYTHING CHANGES OVER TIME. IF ALL RPG's STUCK TO THE "classIC" FORMULA THAN THEY WOULD ALL BE THE SAME AND PEOPLE WOULD B*TCH ABOUT THAT INSTEAD.

As for ME2 being dumbed down. Most of the talents in the talent trees in ME1 overlapped each other and were just filler more than anything. ME2 just got rid of the useless talents like WOW in cataclysm. Think of it as trimming the fat off a slab of beef. It was not needed.

Lets play classic rpgs where every game is a dungeon crawler and ohhhhh, let's all have random trun based battles and grind for 5+ hours in each area just to be strong enough to take out the next boss. It's soooooo much fun, why did they get rid of that.

As much as you people complain you will buy the game, love it, beat it, than come back to the forums and complain more. Life goes on.