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Will your Hawke Believe in the maker?


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#101
Rompa87

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My FemHawke has always been a nice chantry going girl, and will continue to do so

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Annarl

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I never know until I start playing the character. So I will wait until Hawke's personality takes shape as I play.

#103
BallaZs

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Haven't decided yet, but I think he won't.

#104
Mr_Steph

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LoL no

#105
Arokel

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My apostate Hawke will believe in the Maker and that Andraste was his bride/prophet. He will however continue to fight against the opression of mages by the chantry and the templars.

The Templars have gone way too far in their interpretation of "magic never ruling over man".

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Hmm... My Warden definitively does believe in the Maker, and would support the Chantry.

My Hawke? I'm not sure as of yet... I nearly always play the "forgive everyone and try to reason with everyone" incredibly good-natured character. In Dragon Age 1, there's been a grand total of 1 specific dwarf female NPC that I wanted dead: Every single other non-demon NPC got out of encounters with my Warden alive if the option existed, and if it didn't I certainly tried all I could not to kill them. Playing an evil character just feels "wrong" to me and I just can't do it. I did try a "non-evil renegate run" in Mass Effect 1 for a time but I still eventually dropped it.

I'm fiddling with the idea of doing a sneaky rogue for my first run through of Dragon Age II instead of my usual character for diversity sake (Plus, I don't mind a bit of intrigue and the playstyle looks fun). Since I'm extremely likely to do a Maker+Chantry good-natured character, I'd make sense to do a non-Maker+Mage good-ish rogue character. I just can't play evil so I won't try that, but a run with a slightly more morally gray and underhanded rogue could be fun.

I'll just have to see if I can stomach it or not! I bet I'll just end up either restarting, or going with the Maker+Chantry after all when the question pops up... But we'll see! :)

In unrelated matters... I hope that someone will make a "No Blood" mod like one existed in Dragon Age 1: I'm definitively old enough to play these games but I still prefers them without blood everywhere :)

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Marionetten

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No, my Hawke will be far more interested in the Tevinter Magisters of old.

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Lotion Soronarr

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@dirftglass:

Abut the ashes.
WE have no knowledge whatsoever or any other magical ashes. There's no mention of it anywhere. Not even a hint. Andrastes ashes properties are described as wonderous and legendary.

So it certnaly looks like on one in Thedas stumbled onto anything like it before..otherwise it wouldn't be so strange and wonderous.

Could it be that someone's elses ashes with amazing magical properteis lie undisturbed? Who knows.
But it still begs the question from there do these amazing pwoers come, and why is nothing known about it.

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Riloux wrote...

Not on my first playthrough. I always play evil first. I actually have a hard time playing good at all. I have 3 evil DA:O playthroughs and 1 good that still needs to complete Awakening.

So interesting. I was thinking exactly the opposite. I always play good on my first playthrough, and that's why I won't play Chantry.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...
But it still begs the question from there do these amazing pwoers come, and why is nothing known about it.


Of course. I'm all for the investigation - I was just arguing against the conclusion without investigation.

As I said, I wasn't saying "definitely false". I was just saying not "definitely true".

Modifié par dirftglass, 03 mars 2011 - 03:02 .


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My Hawke believes that the entity or force referred to as "Maker" is real, but the Chantry's interpretation is bull...In reality, whether it exists or not doesn't really matter much as it appears unconcerned for the fate of the "world" and the lives/welfare of its inhabitants.

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My Hawke will believe in the Maker as well as Andraste, but there will definitely be tension between her and the chantry.

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My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

PRAISE ANDRASTE!


I'm probably not going to be an Andrastian. I plan on going forth as an apostate Hawke, and I don't intent on being religious. It's similar to my Hero of Ferelden from the Circle of Magi (with the Surana background from the Denerim Alienage) who didn't see things the Chantry's way because of his background as an elven mage. I wonder what will happen to the Urn of Sacred Ashes, since Oghren brings up the fact that there's a wall of lyrium that's changing everything in the temple, including the ashes.

#114
shaneho78

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My Hawke believes in the cylon god.

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NinjaRogue

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 Maker =/= Chantry

All my characters believed in the Maker, but hated the Chantry. :P "It is the Maker who creates mages. The Chantry was built by men, and it can be brought down by them."

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Insom wrote...

TokerMate wrote...
I see the Chantry as some weird cult to be honest and don't believe in their beliefs.



Their beliefs are pretty much correct. They believe Andraste is a divine prophet, and she's been proven to be.


Sorry I should have been more clear that was a very stupid way to put it, I meant like what they see as fair when it comes to rules and punishment and what is good or bad. I didn't mean their main belief lol stupid of me.

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Gabriel S.

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I hope I will have the option. I hate it in real life and I hate it in games. At least in games I can pretend to "role-play".

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Celtic Latino

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Very likely, since my characters usually believe in a higher power (including my Shepard), though they are more like deists than Andrastians (though...my dwarven commoner was a convert and the first dwarven templar in Thedas).

I definitely will have a Templar/Chantry Hawke playthrough, and to make it more unusual my Hawke will be a mage! : )

#119
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My Warden was a follower of the chantry and the maker.. My Hawke despises the chantry and hates the maker.

My Orlesian Warden was previously a Templar before joining the wardens. He worshipped the maker but also hated the chantry - mainly because they tried to force Lyrium on him and his fellow Templars. He saw the effects it had on people and refused to take it

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dirftglass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
But it still begs the question from there do these amazing pwoers come, and why is nothing known about it.


Of course. I'm all for the investigation - I was just arguing against the conclusion without investigation.

As I said, I wasn't saying "definitely false". I was just saying not "definitely true".


 As much as the debater in me wants to take up an deliberatly opposing stance, just to keep the back-and-forth going
, I am going to resist the urge,  as  I agree pretty much with everything Driftglass has said in this thread. Anyone that has made a matter of fact claim that "The maker exists" or "The maker does not exist"  is doing so based not on logic or evidence but rather on their emotional interpretation of the data on "The Maker" provided in game.

That said, as we as players can not KNOW one way or the other without a Bioware Dev jumping in to say "Yes, the Maker is a reality in the DA world"  the way we play our own Hawke HAS TO be based on our emotional interpretations (or RP reasons), simply because in the question of "The Maker" we are not given an option to side in a grey area. We either Believe or we dont.  As such, as they are the only choices we have, I will most likly pick "There is a Maker", at least for my first play through. Simply because I "personally" feel that , given the setting and the time, a full blown anti-thestic movement is unlikly, and most people would probably believe in a Maker even if it does not match the Chantry definition. 

After that, I would probably pick and role-play a non-believer, just to see what happens :P

Modifié par Kovnic, 03 mars 2011 - 04:00 .


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Hellscream

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I would like the option to reform the chantry (specifically the templars) into a more benign faction aligned with helping the common folk with more separation of state and church and less "REPENT OR DIE"


But yeah, my Hawke will probably believe in the Maker. Yet he wont jump to help the chantry unless there is a good reason.


His specialization will be Templar, of Course. Kinda like a pure knight in a land full of corrupt ones

Modifié par Hellscream, 03 mars 2011 - 03:58 .


#122
Cless Godhard

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My Hawke does not believe in the fairy tale that is called The Maker. I will make it my personal mission to get rid of these mindless sheeps that people call the Chantery and it slaves the Templars.

PURGE THE CHANTERY!

#123
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The Chantry would be tolerable if say, Leliana was in charge.
The Templars are like a combination of jocks and jihadis, so major reform needed there.
The Maker? Meh.

#124
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SnakeHelah wrote...

Nah, My Hawke gonna believe in elephants



It's elephants all the way down, right?

#125
KenKenpachi

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My Hawk will fallow the one Truth known as the Qun. >>