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#26
Aidunno

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I've found if I play a character who previously was logged in with DLC it needs to be logged in again to work. If I play a char who has never been logged in it also works fine.

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I used to have this issue, but registering my game and DLC codes solved it. I no longer recall where I registered them, though ;) No pop-ups for me, and I can play logged out just fine.

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Cheiron the Centaur

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I figured it out. In C:\\Documents and Settings\\{Your Name}\\My Documents\\BioWare\\Dragon Age\\Settings there is a file called AddIns.xml which contains a list of all the DLC you have downloaded/installed. In my case, 5 of the files in this list had an entry: RequiresAuthorization="1"
I changed the 1 to 0, and after that I could play my saved games without the need to log in.

Modifié par Cheiron the Centaur, 19 novembre 2009 - 07:01 .


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Odd I never had this problem with my DLC. It simply said it could not update my stats on the social site which it hasn't done in a while anyway even when I am logged on.

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Game and all DLC registered. Always logged in.



Trying to use Resume always causes the pop-up. Loading the most recent save from the Load option does not.



If authenticated DLC is the wave of the gaming future, color me unimpressed.

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I had this issue on and off.



Last few days it stopped. I thought it was because 1.01b patch. But it happened this morning again T.T

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I got fed up with that really fast. My PC is old as hell, so I bought the game for 360. I got everything working (Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep, Blood Dragon Armor, Embri's Many Pockets) EXCEPT Amulet of the War Mage. I deleted my first save that was 6 hours in because I didn't want to deal with that crap, so I just unplugged my 360 from my router and started a new game, avoiding playing while I was connected. Not being harassed for owning a legitimate copy of the game was more than worth losing that amulet.

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DLC On The Disc wrote...
I got fed up with that really fast. My PC is old as hell, so I bought the game for 360. I got everything working (Stone Prisoner, Warden's Keep, Blood Dragon Armor, Embri's Many Pockets) EXCEPT Amulet of the War Mage. I deleted my first save that was 6 hours in because I didn't want to deal with that crap, so I just unplugged my 360 from my router and started a new game, avoiding playing while I was connected.


The problem has to do with bundling the data but not the rights. When you download one of the DA:J unlocks, you get all of Promo Item Pack 2, but you only get the offline rights for the item you clicked on to initiate the download. To use all of the DA:J unlocks while not connected to the DA servers, you need to re-download the data for each item. It's a clumsy workaround, but you should only need to do it once to make the problem go away.

Details here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/172548

Modifié par switzki, 19 novembre 2009 - 08:09 .


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daem3an wrote...

Is this only happening to people who downloaded the game? I'm glad I don't have this problem, it would royally annoy me.


From my experience, it's a sporadic issue that occurs when trying to load a game while you are still being logged in, as opposed to being logged out or completely logged in.

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Cambios wrote...
 Treating your legit, paying customers like criminals is really not the way to go.


God this rhetoric annoys the hell out of me for several reasons.  First of all, security =/= treating paying customers like criminals.  Are the cameras at your local Wal-mart treating you like a criminal? What about the sensor that they package in most products so you can't steal them?  If there wasn't a constant threat of theft, then these security measures wouldn't be in place.  They're not treating you like criminals, they're screening you for being a criminal and it's very very different.

Cambios wrote...
A few examples of why this needs to be removed:

1) It straight up works poorly. About 1/4 of the time I try to load a save, it gives me the error message about needing to be logged in even though I *AM* logged in.


You're loading the game too quickly most like, I can replicate this 100% of the time by immediately loading my save upon launching the game.  Wait 5 seconds and the message goes away once it authenticates.

Cambios wrote...
2) A couple nights ago my DSL went down. I couldn't work, and obviously couldn't surf the web. I wanted to play some Dragon Age but I couldn't. Since I couldn't login to "phone home", I couldn't play from any of my saves.


3) Loading the game on a laptop to play while traveling is basically a non option. That's a darn shame.


Legitimate complaints, absolutely it would be nice to use the DLC offline.  However, for most people this is hardly a big issue as most people have an internet connection.  Occasionally you won't be able to play because it's down or whatever but it is hardly a widescale issue and likely won't receive any major attention.  It's not that Bioware thinks you're a criminal it's that this is the way the system has to be done.  Otherwise they may as well just make the DLC a free download as someone downloads it and host the files for download: or worse they start putting Securom and other such crap on our PC's again.

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as a legitimate customer I don't find any hassle of insult involved in the present system. Then again I run a dsl hub that means I am connected 24/7.



is that what this is all about? having to connect something?

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ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

Cambios wrote...
 Treating your legit, paying customers like criminals is really not the way to go.


God this rhetoric annoys the hell out of me for several reasons.  First of all, security =/= treating paying customers like criminals.  Are the cameras at your local Wal-mart treating you like a criminal? What about the sensor that they package in most products so you can't steal them?  If there wasn't a constant threat of theft, then these security measures wouldn't be in place.  They're not treating you like criminals, they're screening you for being a criminal and it's very very different.

Cambios wrote...
A few examples of why this needs to be removed:

1) It straight up works poorly. About 1/4 of the time I try to load a save, it gives me the error message about needing to be logged in even though I *AM* logged in.


You're loading the game too quickly most like, I can replicate this 100% of the time by immediately loading my save upon launching the game.  Wait 5 seconds and the message goes away once it authenticates.

Cambios wrote...
2) A couple nights ago my DSL went down. I couldn't work, and obviously couldn't surf the web. I wanted to play some Dragon Age but I couldn't. Since I couldn't login to "phone home", I couldn't play from any of my saves.


3) Loading the game on a laptop to play while traveling is basically a non option. That's a darn shame.


Legitimate complaints, absolutely it would be nice to use the DLC offline.  However, for most people this is hardly a big issue as most people have an internet connection.  Occasionally you won't be able to play because it's down or whatever but it is hardly a widescale issue and likely won't receive any major attention.  It's not that Bioware thinks you're a criminal it's that this is the way the system has to be done.  Otherwise they may as well just make the DLC a free download as someone downloads it and host the files for download: or worse they start putting Securom and other such crap on our PC's again.



I play DA:O and all of the DLC without an Internet connection all the time.  There is absolutely no "phone home" requirement for the game or any of the DLC.  You only need to be connected when you download and install it.*

* I don't know if that's true for the download version of the game (such as through D2D).  They might have an "authenticate" requirement in place of the disc check that the retail version uses.

#38
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You're more likely to have problems if you actually enable "Always log me in".

The game will only try to authenticate if you're logged in (assuming you've previously authenticated). It takes some time for EA servers to authenticate your DLC, so if you start the game logged in and attempt to load your game save too early, you'll receive that popup stating you need to be logged in even though you already are.

I don't think you have to register your game on this site, although apparently some have needed to in order to redeem their promo codes, so to be safe you should register your game and redeem your promo codes, under the same account that you use to log in within the game's interface.

This may not be needed, but to ensure you can authenticate the first time, start the content updater service (Administrative Tools > Services) and run daorigins.exe as an Administrator. Start the game and log in, and wait until all your DLC is enabled and authorised. Now log out, disabling "Always log me in", and exit the game.

You should be able to play logged out now, because the most recent log in was with an authorised account, and without the game starting up always logged in, it won't attempt to authenticate.

If you wish to take this a step further, you can edit AddIns.xml (Documents > BioWare > Dragon Age > Settings) and change/remove RequiresAuthorization="1" for each problematic DLC. Doing this should allow you to enable "Always log me in" and load your game saves immediately.

Modifié par Sensory, 19 novembre 2009 - 08:30 .


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Sensory wrote...

You're more likely to have problems if you actually enable "Always log me in".

The game will only try to authenticate if you're logged in (assuming you've previously authenticated). It takes some time for EA servers to authenticate your DLC, so if you start the game logged in and attempt to load your game save too early, you'll receive that popup stating you need to be logged in even though you already are.


Just decided to test it again myself, I think it is as you say, only a problem if you try to load a save while the game is attempting to authenticate.  So went and pulled the plug from my connection, then loaded Dragon Age up, and did not get an error, showed up as Logged out, blah blah, and it worked for me at least, shale was still in the party and everything.

Might be something for a future patch to address though, since I'm hard pressed to think of a reason it should deny rights while attempting to log in but not deny while logged out.

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I'm disappointed in that too. Sometimes the games doesn't log me ion when I start it and then I can't play the game with my promo. I need to wait and re-connect with my account. Pretty useless. Why will I pay for something that'll need to get online to play it? There's no point in that especially that there is no multiplayer in that game. This attempt to try bashing on pirate means that more people will get pirate. Clap Clap Clap.



More information.. My game is registered, my promo code are bound to my account, and still I need to run is as an Admin to get them working.

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Well crap. I'm gonna go home to see the family for Thanksgiving. They don't have Internet. I was about to order some DLC. Good thing I didn't yet.

Modifié par nicodeemus327, 19 novembre 2009 - 09:27 .


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Sometimes when I click "Resume" too fast, after starting the game, I get a pop-up message telling me I have to be logged in because of the DLC used in that save. I assume something takes time to load, because if I try clicking "Resume" after that, it works fine.



However, yesterday, my cable company was working on some stuff in the building and my internet was turned off most of the day. Despite this, I could load my save file with no trouble whatsoever. I was not connected to the internet, but I could play, and had no DLC-related issues.

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I think this problem has more to do with I.T. issues at the users' end, rather than any underhanded intention by EA to enforce a DRM model. This is the only logical assumption as I am one of the many people who can play DA with my DRM activated at purchase, and then disconnected from the internet on all my subsequent playing sessions. EA are not randomly requiring constant internet connection for some, whilst giving others a free pass.

That said, I would hope that some employee with technical skill is troubleshooting this inconsistent issue as it is giving undeserved bad press for the game on these forums. I suspect it would be an inglorious trial and error style troubleshoot.

Modifié par Lobsang1979, 19 novembre 2009 - 09:33 .


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There is an issue with the DA Content Updater service not always starting. If it is not started and I am logged in the DLC is unauthorized. And no amount of waiting will get things to work. If I actually stay logged out, or my internet connection is down then its fine. I have to manually start the service everytime before I play for things to work if I want to stay logged in.

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IF you choose to go online (or have "Always log me in" enabled), THEN you might have trouble authorising. Many players are able to play logged out/offline after initial download and authorisation, so most likely the issue relates to the end user.

Key Points:
  • Dragon Age: Origins - Updater Service. IF you choose to log in through the game, this service needs to be started, either manually or running daorigins.exe as an Administrator.
  • After logging in, wait a few seconds before attempting to load your game save. If you wish, check your downloadable content, and when all DLC is authorised and enabled, you'll know you'll have authenticated successfully.
  • If you've already authorised your DLC, you can play the game offline. Make sure you disable "Always log me in" to avoid any trouble, and start the game logged out. You should be able to play without any annoying incorrect pop-ups, and you won't have to bother starting the Updater Service or running the game as an Administrator.
  • If you wish to play logged in and avoid authorisation issues, edit AddIns.xml and remove RequiresAuthorization="1" from the corresponding DLC entries. This way you also won't have to bother starting the Updater Service or running the game as an Administrator.

Modifié par Sensory, 19 novembre 2009 - 10:14 .