Bryy_Miller wrote...
No, what you said was that you wished he was never born. For liking something you don't.
Modifié par JediMB, 03 mars 2011 - 08:47 .
JediMB wrote...
Bryy_Miller wrote...
No, what you said was that you wished he was never born. For liking something you don't.
Actually... what he said was that is DAII, as it is, was made for the OP, then he wished that the OP had never been born... so that the game would have been made differently.
It was a joke, basically, and now I've ruined it by explaining it.
JediMB wrote...
Actually... what he said was that is DAII, as it is, was made for the OP, then he wished that the OP had never been born... so that the game would have been made differently.
It was a joke, basically, and now I've ruined it by explaining it.
Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 03 mars 2011 - 08:56 .
Merced652 wrote...
JohnstonMR wrote...
Volleyjeff wrote...
I would be curious to see the Demo feedback thread divided into a PC thread and a console thread. A month's salary says that the majority of people who love the demo and think DA2 is "made for them" are probably console gamers. Those of us who play PC are probably much more disappointed in the direction of the sequel.
Elitism is so unattractive. This idea that PC players and Console players are fundamentally different is just stupid. I'm both. I have ZERO problems with DA2.
I'm pretty sure there is a basis of fact that the two are fundamentally two seperate demographics. Does that mean they are mutually exclusive? Nope! But that doesn't mean they aren't different!
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
JediMB wrote...
Actually... what he said was that is DAII, as it is, was made for the OP, then he wished that the OP had never been born... so that the game would have been made differently.
It was a joke, basically, and now I've ruined it by explaining it.
It wasn't funny in the least, so it wasn't much of a success as a "joke." The later attempt to claim it was sarcasm would imply some level of wit and cleverness in the original "joke" post. Alas, I saw not one whit of either of those qualities.
JohnstonMR wrote...
Hell, one of the most complicated control schemes I've ever seen was for an Xbox game that required me to buy a whole peripheral to play. I miss that thing.
JohnstonMR wrote...
Volleyjeff wrote...
I would be curious to see the Demo feedback thread divided into a PC thread and a console thread. A month's salary says that the majority of people who love the demo and think DA2 is "made for them" are probably console gamers. Those of us who play PC are probably much more disappointed in the direction of the sequel.
Elitism is so unattractive. This idea that PC players and Console players are fundamentally different is just stupid. I'm both. I have ZERO problems with DA2.
Modifié par Raphael diSanto, 03 mars 2011 - 09:24 .
nelly21 wrote...
JohnstonMR wrote...
Hell, one of the most complicated control schemes I've ever seen was for an Xbox game that required me to buy a whole peripheral to play. I miss that thing.
Steel Battalion right?
I F***ING LOVED THAT GAME!!!!! My then girlfriend now wife got it for me for Christmas. BEST CHRISTMAS EVER!!!!
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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 03 mars 2011 - 11:59 .
Canadish wrote...
In regards to the some earlier posts regarding DA2 winning over new fans (ala Mass Effect 2);
I'm curious myself to see how this will play out.
On one hand, Bioware is treading the same golden paved road as the Mass Effect franchise, which suggests that the new accessibility should help to draw in new fans.
On the other, there is a critical difference. DA2 has alot of ill will surrounding it. All the news posts I've seen for it on other websites has been met by concerns and worries.
On "The Escapist" in particular, I've seen several people say
"Every time I here something new about Dragon Age 2, I get less exited"
Now, consider this for when a fresh faced COD/Halo player comes looking for information about the game. He's gonna be hearing alot of mixed responses. ALOT more then were heard about Mass Effect 2, which was hailed in good favor for the changes.
"Mixed" games very rarely do well in the market.
I'm just spit balling here, but I think it could be a wild card in terms of DA2 sales.
Modifié par BobSmith101, 03 mars 2011 - 11:13 .
Buffy-Summers wrote...
Well congrats
Every change they made to please you killed my interest in the game
Im glad someone benefits from my genre being slashed to pieces
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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 03 mars 2011 - 11:59 .
Buffy-Summers wrote...
Well congrats
Every change they made to please you killed my interest in the game
Im glad someone benefits from my genre being slashed to pieces
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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 04 mars 2011 - 12:00 .
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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 04 mars 2011 - 12:01 .
JohnstonMR wrote...
I'll somewhat agree to that, but in my opinion, once you move from that belief to the idea that anything you don't like in the game was done to "dumb it down" for console players, then you're both indulging in elitist BS and ignoring the many fairly complicated console-based RPGs that have existed for the last 20 years, as well as other games. Hell, one of the most complicated control schemes I've ever seen was for an Xbox game that required me to buy a whole peripheral to play. I miss that thing.
Azrailx wrote...
if thats true op, i wish u were never born
and i doubt this game will earn many new fans, if u like rpgs u like them, if u dont u dont
Modifié par Nuclear Pete, 04 mars 2011 - 12:55 .
JohnstonMR wrote...
I just love the people who are concerned for not getting a stupid achievement/sticker. I play Xbox games all the time, and I regard the "achievements" as stupid at best. If you're playing a game so the machine can tell you you're good at it, what's the point?
KnightHood00 wrote...
JohnstonMR wrote...
I just love the people who are concerned for not getting a stupid achievement/sticker. I play Xbox games all the time, and I regard the "achievements" as stupid at best. If you're playing a game so the machine can tell you you're good at it, what's the point?
Mmmm...Well, this is going to be somewhat complicated response but I don't think it's fair to judge people who like the whole system of getting achievements and such. The reason why is that this particular generation of gamers and most likely the generations that follow have been socialized to desire instantaneous response and praise.
Speaking on behalf of just the Americans (as I don't know how some things work in other countries), but ever since you were five or six years old, you've been fed achievements stickers [e.g. the "gold star" next to your name on the class roster]. Throughout your entire educational system, it's been a race, a competition, a contest to see who gets the most points. Whether it's through the GPA system, award certificates, or sports trophies, people are told that they need to achieve and that these symbolic items are critical to their lives. Not only is it a personal marker of success, it's also a marker of social status. Your parents use it to brag, you use it to impress your significant others, universities use them to judge your merits.
Achievement is one of the social tenets of American culture. And I think that's why the trophy/achievement system in games has been so successful in the gaming industry. It gives you immediate feedback/praise for completing a task and it serves as a symbol of status for others to see. It's not the machine that a gamer cares about...it's every other person on their friend list who might or might not be subconsciously comparing themselves to the gamer. That is what the gaming industry is exploiting...
TLDR: Don't blame the player. Blame the entire cultural process of socialization in America.
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