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What the hell did you do to Zevran? (Spoilers)


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Dr. wonderful wrote...

You know, I'll spoil something for you.

When zeveran appears in that shot, it been 8 or 9 years since origins.


This is the second thread I've seen you post something prefaced with "here's a spoiler".

I have no idea if what you say is fact or not, but why not keep the spoilers in that big spoiler thread.

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panamakira wrote...

Sorry Mr. Gaider but I don't necessarily agree. Zevran in THAT shot looks like crap and I'm not a big fan of the elven redesign either. So poor Zevran has two things going against him. Seriously of all the elves I've seen so far Fenris is the best looking one. Merrill looks strange to me, and it's not her face but the female elves have these strange bodies, like their heads are too big or something. I'm not sure~

/my opinion

It would be a huge cliche but I wish they just did away with their take on short and wierd looking elves and just make them more Tolkien-esk. Normal height, normal size, and normal pointed ears (if there is such a thing).

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I get his ass to medival© MHawke. Because he deceived my gay-warden Tor Aeducan!:devil: 

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@Gaider: While I agree that these forums can sometimes be a festering cesspool of ignorance, I also agree that for a representative of Bioware, you are sometimes quite condescending and derogatory. Of course, a lot of the people deserve it, but I'm not sure that they should get it from a BW rep; it may not always make you look bad, but it certainly doesn't make you look good. If you look at the site rules, you'll realize you're breaking them. I don't want to get nipped in the ass for posting this, but...

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I actually lol'd so hard. Maybe I need a life, but my god, that photo is funny.

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Blastback wrote...

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 I bring good tidings!!
*snip*
There's my ol' Zevran!:wub: Glad to have you back buddy!

I knew it! I knew it was just a bad screen!:o

Ok, I wasn't freaking out about the other shot like a lot of people, but now I'm just confused.  He looks exactly the same to me here as in the other shot, but suddenly people are saying "it's the old Zevran".  Wha??

He still looks funny, but it's just the new style- the big chins, small mouths, and the godawful elf ears.

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kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

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hmm... I wonder if he still does the flirting thing when he is still in a relationship with the warden.


Zevran is pretty much the poster child for polyamory. 


Not if he's in love.  Then he's all Mr Commitment.  I'm just hoping his romance flag gets imported properly, even for Queen Couslands.

Anyway, while the second screenshot does look better, I guess it's jarring because elves are SO different.  I hope he's at least wearing shoes.  He has two conversations where he talks about wearing footware -- it would be weird if he's also barefoot now.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 mars 2011 - 06:51 .


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I think he looks good! I'm glad I kept the character save where I romanced him in case it gives him any special dialogue.

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David Gaider wrote...

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...This is Carver's "HE'S SO DERPY LOOKING, LOOK AT HIM IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR AND ONLY SCREENSHOT!!!" thing all over again, isn't it?


It is. Zevran looks fine. People are idiots.


Wow. I knew you were coming hard on the forums lately, but this is a whole new level. I wonder when enough will be enough. 

(And this is from someone who really admires you otherwise.) 

Addai67 wrote...

Ok, I wasn't freaking out about the other shot like a lot of people, but now I'm just confused.  He looks exactly the same to me here as in the other shot, but suddenly people are saying "it's the old Zevran".  Wha??


Yeah, my opinion exactly. I didn't like the first pic, and the second ain't much different. Bit of sad, I suppose. I really liked his look in Origins. 

Modifié par - Songlian -, 06 mars 2011 - 08:23 .


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TJPags wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

You know, I'll spoil something for you.

When zeveran appears in that shot, it been 8 or 9 years since origins.


This is the second thread I've seen you post something prefaced with "here's a spoiler".

I have no idea if what you say is fact or not, but why not keep the spoilers in that big spoiler thread.

kthnx.Image IPB

Just letting people know, you won't me him off the bat.


It's going to be a while before you see him.


...Also, are you stalking me?

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What happened to Zevran?

He became an elf, as opposed to the prepubescent jailbait that got friend zoned by my Warden.

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Dr. wonderful wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Dr. wonderful wrote...

You know, I'll spoil something for you.

When zeveran appears in that shot, it been 8 or 9 years since origins.


This is the second thread I've seen you post something prefaced with "here's a spoiler".

I have no idea if what you say is fact or not, but why not keep the spoilers in that big spoiler thread.

kthnx.Image IPB

Just letting people know, you won't me him off the bat.


It's going to be a while before you see him.


...Also, are you stalking me?


 Nobody asked for you to tell us this, nobody cares either.
 Keep the spoilers in the spoiler thread.

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With one single frame one can show basically what she wants...

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KisaRNG wrote...

I prefer the new look of the elves. I've always hated how they are always simply shorter/taller than humans with pointy ears. BORING.

I love when they look more alien, makes them much more interesting.


*shrugs* Personal preference thing; I don't like the redesign at all. The look like they're not only another race, but another species. They also, for me, dip into the uncanny valley. I don't fiind them attractive. I find them creepy as hell, especially Merrill, who looks like she's about 12. If I romanced her with Hawke, I'd feel like a dirty old woman, and not in the fun way.

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chelseaisthepan wrote...

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Please stop complaining now.


Can't... stop... complaining. Still... intensely... creepy... AGH!

:whistle:

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panamakira wrote...

Sorry Mr. Gaider but I don't necessarily agree. Zevran in THAT shot looks like crap and I'm not a big fan of the elven redesign either. So poor Zevran has two things going against him. Seriously of all the elves I've seen so far Fenris is the best looking one. Merrill looks strange to me, and it's not her face but the female elves have these strange bodies, like their heads are too big or something. I'm not sure~

/my opinion


Agreed on all counts. Merrill looks disturbingly young to me, like a child model. Creepy.

On the up side, for me, I'm no longer disappointed that I can't play an elf.

Modifié par darkrose, 06 mars 2011 - 10:57 .


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David Gaider wrote...

Sabariel wrote...
...This is Carver's "HE'S SO DERPY LOOKING, LOOK AT HIM IN THIS ONE PARTICULAR AND ONLY SCREENSHOT!!!" thing all over again, isn't it?


It is. Zevran looks fine. People are idiots.


May I make a suggestion, Mr. Gaider?

Step away from the computer. Or at least, close the forums tab in your browser.

It sucks to have people ripping about your baby, the project you've spent months working on. But from here, it seems like it's getting to you on a personal level. Speaking from experience, that's the point at which disengaging from online discussions becomes a very, very good idea.

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darkrose wrote...

 The look like they're not only another race, but another species. 

Because they are! They are not human race they are indeed another species, like Qunari.:alien:

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I like the part where Gaider called people idiots for having opinions. You so crazy.

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Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

darkrose wrote...

 The look like they're not only another race, but another species. 

Because they are! They are not human race they are indeed another species, like Qunari.:alien:


If they're another species, then they shouldn't be able to interbreed with humans and produce fertile offspring. 

I loved the elves in Origins because it was taking a standard fantasy trope--the tall, graceful elves that are perceived as being superior to humans--and turned it on its head, making them an oppressed minority. To me, at least, it weakens the impact of that. My Tabris ripped Leliana a new one during one conversation, telling her that she clearly doesn't see elves as people. If elves are so distinct as to be a completely different species, then...well, they're not people, are they?

*shrugs* Again, all I'm saying is that it doesn't work for me. YMMV, and clearly does.

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meh i don't care what zevran looks like, the warden story i import, killed him without waking him up.. i really did not like that bisexual elf o,o

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Zev looks like he'd been partying hard with Charlie Sheen. Though he admittedly looks better in shot #2.

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I think he looks really creepy. I mean elves are supposed to be just another race, right ? But this incarnation of Zevran doesn't even look human, he looks like some sort of alien lizard mutant. His womanizer character really does not go with this look, IMO.

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Silentmode wrote...

panamakira wrote...

Sorry Mr. Gaider but I don't necessarily agree. Zevran in THAT shot looks like crap and I'm not a big fan of the elven redesign either. So poor Zevran has two things going against him. Seriously of all the elves I've seen so far Fenris is the best looking one. Merrill looks strange to me, and it's not her face but the female elves have these strange bodies, like their heads are too big or something. I'm not sure~

/my opinion

It would be a huge cliche but I wish they just did away with their take on short and wierd looking elves and just make them more Tolkien-esk. Normal height, normal size, and normal pointed ears (if there is such a thing).


Agreed, for some reason the current take on elves reminds me of Santa elves, I hope this impression doesn't follow with all the elves in DA2 or it's really gonna be hard to take that part of the game seriously (or Merrill for that matter)

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Balthamoss wrote...

I think he looks really creepy. I mean elves are supposed to be just another race, right ? But this incarnation of Zevran doesn't even look human, he looks like some sort of alien lizard mutant. His womanizer character really does not go with this look, IMO.


Mid-conversation with Hawke, his forked green alien-tongue slithers out from between his teeth and licks Hawke daintily on the cheek. Then a long, thick silence ensues, and Zevran scurries away into the bushes on all fours with a screech.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 06 mars 2011 - 11:42 .