HighlandBerserkr wrote...
Ok this article is stupid just like everyone else who thinks the combat has changed, IT PLAYS JUST LIKE ORIGINS! ****ing morons, give it a rest and stop ****ing.
Yamsandjams wrote...
Most of the equipment was top-of-the-line stuff. The monitor is an LG 24" (16:9 widescreen) at about $250 - $300, GPU is a GTX 480 I got for about $500 (if I had waited a little longer I probably could've got it cheaper), and the CPU is a Core i7 950 which was going for around $300, I think. The harddrives were both 450 GB 10000 RPM WD VelociRaptor models, although I could probably have just gotten one of them. I think they were about $200 - $250 each, though I can't quite remember. Also got 6 GB of DDR3. The case was kind of fancy, but it's got great passive cooling... I think that one was about $180. So that's about half of it right there. I think I spent about $200 on the motherboard, about the same on the power supply, and I guess the rest was mostly peripherals. Then you gotta add sales tax and such. Plus, the prices tend to be a little higher up here than they are down south.
But hey, when you make the trasnition from 20 FPS world to 60 FPS world, you don't complain for a single second.
Graunt wrote...
Probably because most people are going to get a television whether or not they play console games on it, while not everyone has a need for a PC. It's a lot more common for a PC gamer to have a "gaming rig" or setup specifically built around gaming than it is a console gamer buying a new stereo system and television for console gaming alone.
Console gaming is much cheaper than PC gaming, especially if you rent games. This is especially true in households with children. You can't honestly be suggesting that a PC is as childproof to a ten year old than what a Wii or 360 is -- consoles are also less expensive to repair. On top of that, your average "good" television will last around six to eight years, while the truly great ones can last a little over ten. If you aren't spending $500+ on a much smaller PC monitor, you will have to replace it every three or four.
Lastly, consoles will get you through the next four to five years of gaming, while a PC will not without upgrades along the way. Building a new "medium" level gaming rig costs right around $1,500 and those are usually only able to keep up for three years without buying a new graphics card. When you do end up getting a new graphics card, they usually cost as much as a console, if not more unless you wait six to eight months after they've been released, and by then you're even farther behind the curve.
Lennonkun wrote...
Yamsandjams wrote...
Most of the equipment was top-of-the-line stuff. The monitor is an LG 24" (16:9 widescreen) at about $250 - $300, GPU is a GTX 480 I got for about $500 (if I had waited a little longer I probably could've got it cheaper), and the CPU is a Core i7 950 which was going for around $300, I think. The harddrives were both 450 GB 10000 RPM WD VelociRaptor models, although I could probably have just gotten one of them. I think they were about $200 - $250 each, though I can't quite remember. Also got 6 GB of DDR3. The case was kind of fancy, but it's got great passive cooling... I think that one was about $180. So that's about half of it right there. I think I spent about $200 on the motherboard, about the same on the power supply, and I guess the rest was mostly peripherals. Then you gotta add sales tax and such. Plus, the prices tend to be a little higher up here than they are down south.
But hey, when you make the trasnition from 20 FPS world to 60 FPS world, you don't complain for a single second.
Still not sure how exactly you bought 2k worth of peripherals...
Just bought 8 gigs of DDR3 off Newegg this week actually, 74.99, great deal.
Lennonkun wrote...
What I find hilarious is people bashing Rock, Paper, Shotgun when they are one of the few remaining true PC sites around and tell it like it is.
Merced652 wrote...
ArcanistLibram wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
True of PST and KOTOR, with hindsight. Not true of the others.
Easy way to test. You know I'll play Hawke in DA2, you know I would play TNO in PST. You know post twist I will be playing Revan in KOTOR. But you have no idea who my character in DA or BG would be.
It's you who is factually wrong here.
The Warden is the Warden and the Bhaalspawn is the Bhaalspawn. You have some control over the Warden with the Origins, but the Origins themselves are pre-set characters, and there's no player input at all over the character's background in Baldur's Gate.
You're wrong, the character as it relates to his personality, the way he says things, the way he thinks, etc are not actually spelled out for you in bg2 or any other bioware game outside of the new **** like ME1/2 and now DA2. VO'd protag removes any room for the player to decide who his character really is fundamentally. Which is fine i guess but if i wanted to read a book or watch a movie i would do those things instead. Also the articles analysis of the wheel as it relates to DA2 was spot on. Any iteration of the wheel with a morality or intent pigeon holes the player in to specific choices if they wish to retain any sense of immersion. Not that i expect anyone to be immersed at any point during gameplay anyway, but if they somehow do become immersed it would be broken immediately after choosing an intent which isn't representative of your previous choices. So basically you can RP Hawke ABC style, if you even bother to rp at all.
Yamsandjams wrote...
mindbody wrote...
That was when the they sold deep blue, I think. Didn't want to play chess anymore, wanted to play old-school RPGs, but there was only....Lennonkun wrote...
Yamsandjams wrote...
I spent 3k on my gaming rig, but everything was brand new and I was coming up from a 6 year old rig. The CPU, GPU, and monitor were already about 1k, The 2k was from all the other components. Admittedly, I probably could've saved a bit on the keyboard/mouse, and I probably didn't need to get the second hard drive right away. But the case is really nice... can definitely make use of it for a long time.
Exactly what the hell did you buy?
My mind is boggled trying to figure this out...
DA2!
Most of the equipment was top-of-the-line stuff. The monitor is an LG 24" (16:9 widescreen) at about $250 - $300, GPU is a GTX 480 I got for about $500 (if I had waited a little longer I probably could've got it cheaper), and the CPU is a Core i7 950 which was going for around $300, I think. The harddrives were both 450 GB 10000 RPM WD VelociRaptor models, although I could probably have just gotten one of them. I think they were about $200 - $250 each, though I can't quite remember. Also got 6 GB of DDR3. The case was kind of fancy, but it's got great passive cooling... I think that one was about $180. So that's about half of it right there. I think I spent about $200 on the motherboard, about the same on the power supply, and I guess the rest was mostly peripherals. Then you gotta add sales tax and such. Plus, the prices tend to be a little higher up here than they are down south.
But hey, when you make the trasnition from 20 FPS world to 60 FPS world, you don't complain for a single second.
Baelyn wrote...
Merced652 wrote...
ArcanistLibram wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
True of PST and KOTOR, with hindsight. Not true of the others.
Easy way to test. You know I'll play Hawke in DA2, you know I would play TNO in PST. You know post twist I will be playing Revan in KOTOR. But you have no idea who my character in DA or BG would be.
It's you who is factually wrong here.
The Warden is the Warden and the Bhaalspawn is the Bhaalspawn. You have some control over the Warden with the Origins, but the Origins themselves are pre-set characters, and there's no player input at all over the character's background in Baldur's Gate.
You're wrong, the character as it relates to his personality, the way he says things, the way he thinks, etc are not actually spelled out for you in bg2 or any other bioware game outside of the new **** like ME1/2 and now DA2. VO'd protag removes any room for the player to decide who his character really is fundamentally. Which is fine i guess but if i wanted to read a book or watch a movie i would do those things instead. Also the articles analysis of the wheel as it relates to DA2 was spot on. Any iteration of the wheel with a morality or intent pigeon holes the player in to specific choices if they wish to retain any sense of immersion. Not that i expect anyone to be immersed at any point during gameplay anyway, but if they somehow do become immersed it would be broken immediately after choosing an intent which isn't representative of your previous choices. So basically you can RP Hawke ABC style, if you even bother to rp at all.
What you are failing to see is that it is the SAME system that was in DA:O. Whether you hear the voice or not...no matter what selection you picked in DA:O...how YOU intended it to sound and with what inflection...ended with you. Because the fact of the matter is that when you actually clicked that button your character triggered what the DEVELOPERS intended that statement to imply and sound like. It is only the ILLUSION that you are saying exactly what you want with exactly the same tone. How many times in DA:O did I pick one statement thinking I was implying one thing, to have the character react in a totally different manner, leaving me thinking..."wait...that is not at all what I meant by that."
In DA2 the only difference is there is not the mask there that allows your imagination to think you said something one way. Either way at the end of the day the game is only as smart as the people that program it and will only react to what they have pre-planned.
So in DA:O having an unvoiced character is exactly the same as DA2's voiced protag only you are given more of a directive it what the implication of the statements you choose....a well needed addition in my opinion.
Graunt wrote...
Yamsandjams wrote...
mindbody wrote...
That was when the they sold deep blue, I think. Didn't want to play chess anymore, wanted to play old-school RPGs, but there was only....Lennonkun wrote...
Yamsandjams wrote...
I spent 3k on my gaming rig, but everything was brand new and I was coming up from a 6 year old rig. The CPU, GPU, and monitor were already about 1k, The 2k was from all the other components. Admittedly, I probably could've saved a bit on the keyboard/mouse, and I probably didn't need to get the second hard drive right away. But the case is really nice... can definitely make use of it for a long time.
Exactly what the hell did you buy?
My mind is boggled trying to figure this out...
DA2!
Most of the equipment was top-of-the-line stuff. The monitor is an LG 24" (16:9 widescreen) at about $250 - $300, GPU is a GTX 480 I got for about $500 (if I had waited a little longer I probably could've got it cheaper), and the CPU is a Core i7 950 which was going for around $300, I think. The harddrives were both 450 GB 10000 RPM WD VelociRaptor models, although I could probably have just gotten one of them. I think they were about $200 - $250 each, though I can't quite remember. Also got 6 GB of DDR3. The case was kind of fancy, but it's got great passive cooling... I think that one was about $180. So that's about half of it right there. I think I spent about $200 on the motherboard, about the same on the power supply, and I guess the rest was mostly peripherals. Then you gotta add sales tax and such. Plus, the prices tend to be a little higher up here than they are down south.
But hey, when you make the trasnition from 20 FPS world to 60 FPS world, you don't complain for a single second.
This sounds exactly like the system I built at the end of 2009 (price per parts) and mine was approximately $1,800. No idea what you spent another $1,200 on.
slimgrin wrote...
As usual, this is flippant nonsense meant to make fellow console gamers feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You're pretty much wrong with every figure you've posted, but don't let that stop you.
hakwea wrote...
I'm talking about things like no energy regens, can only rest at X that you never is up hills both ways from where you are etc. One example of annoying things I find that still is being held in most games is that rogues are the only ones that can open locks. Its a stupid annoying limiting factor. classes should be defined on their abilities not on stuff that requires you to always take them or have your party be "weakened"
Graunt wrote...
hakwea wrote...
I'm talking about things like no energy regens, can only rest at X that you never is up hills both ways from where you are etc. One example of annoying things I find that still is being held in most games is that rogues are the only ones that can open locks. Its a stupid annoying limiting factor. classes should be defined on their abilities not on stuff that requires you to always take them or have your party be "weakened"
Last time I checked, opening a lock, or pickpocketing someone, or finding and disarming a trap is an "ability".
Modifié par hakwea, 05 mars 2011 - 09:43 .
Icinix wrote...
I don't agree with MOST of what they say...BUT..this caught my eye as something I agree with...
"When you get into the game you will notice that player conversations have become much less significant as well. As far as the dialogue scenes are concerned, this is not role playing; this is interactive playing. The dialogue is so simple that it could be replaced by a choice that you make at the beginning of the game: "Do you want to be a compassionate, humorous, or obnoxious character?" After that choice, you would only have to watch the dialogue scenes play through with no player-input at all."
If you chop and change your decisions, your character looks like he has the worst case of Bi-Polar I've ever seen. It was a similar problem with Mass Effect as well. The conversation choice just doesn't work that well...and hasn't since they re-invented the wheel ---see what I did there...
Apart from that though..DA2 is going to turn me into 18 shades of happy goo. So I can live with that minor transgression.
Modifié par Lord Drakkul, 05 mars 2011 - 09:31 .
RageGT wrote...
Well, I agree with what is pasted in OP. And I say that 10 years from now, I will still be playing Gothic 1 and 2, Risen, DA:Origins, The Witcher and very likely TW2 and Risen 2, while DA2 will not even be in the shelf or backup drive of almost any gamer!
There are bands, games, movies, books, etc. that will live forever or way past their era while there are others that will grab a quick cash and disappear in the dust of history!
AlanC9 wrote...
RageGT wrote...
Well, I agree with what is pasted in OP. And I say that 10 years from now, I will still be playing Gothic 1 and 2, Risen, DA:Origins, The Witcher and very likely TW2 and Risen 2, while DA2 will not even be in the shelf or backup drive of almost any gamer!
There are bands, games, movies, books, etc. that will live forever or way past their era while there are others that will grab a quick cash and disappear in the dust of history!
Yep, and you're the absolute authority about what other gamers are going to want to play in the future.
AlanC9 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Well like he said, unless you are a habitual pauser, in the time it takes to think "I should pause" and do it, you just got hit a few times.
Right, and if you're making any other kind of decision which takes you that long to think about, you'll still get hit as many times. Is deciding whether or not to pause that much harder than deciding on any other gameplay action you might want to take? That seems so intensely silly that I must be misreading you.
hakwea wrote...
Lockpicking and pickpocketing being rogue are only because of the sterotypes of classic rpgs. Any can be a pickpocket in DA. But not everyone could be a locksmith? Anyone could be a herbalist, so they only keep some of the sterotypes.
They aren't abilities that only a rogue in an actual world can have. If we are to actually role play and believe it is a world then shouldn't those be open to everyone, but with rogues getting bonuses since they would likely be drawn to it more. Herbalism and pickpocketing werent held to the sterotype of classic rpgs, but disarming traps and locksmithing were in DA. Hell you could be a expert trap maker and not be able to disarm them which is a giant contradiction.
i have a funny feeling thats what most people who usually play tense action game will say when/if they get their hands on DA2...
FearMonkey wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
I once played God of War for several minutes. I can't understand how that game is fun at all, even for a moment.thatbwoyblu wrote...
I want Dragon Age to be more like God of War because I love god of war.Forget that old choppy RPG style its time for RPGs to have style.I am pretty sure OP is a internet thug from RPG Codex.What up Gangster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As someone who has played all the games multiple times, I think you have to play more than a few minutes to understand the appeal. The story is good, the combat is deep and fun, and it can get pretty challenging. It's just...a lot of fun. There's even a bit of strategy to it because you have to take in account what type of enemy you're fighting and when you have multiple groups of different types of enemies you have to change tactics constantly. It's a lot of fun.
AlanC9 wrote...
I guess I'm not seeing why you want a system with classes in the first place. Or do you?
Modifié par hakwea, 05 mars 2011 - 09:50 .
BobSmith101 wrote...
The difference being pausing does not bring you closer to a resolution. It just stops time. If your mashing away at at the attack button then you are doing something that will end combat faster. By pausing in the way he describes it, you are just getting hit.
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