Rob Sabbaggio wrote...
Not completely related to this post, but what the heck. What I dont understand is people criticising Bioware for dumbing down RPGs (even from Origins), and then citing other RPG's like the Witcher or Oblivion as purer RPGs.
Now I enjoyed both games. But the Witcher, for example, had no customisable character, at all. Combat was mouse button mashing timing with the odd potion/bomb thrown in. And there was no party at all. How is that somehow a better RPG? And Oblivion? Again, no party to speak of, real time button mashing combat complete with running, jumping etc.
I might not always like every element of their games, but for me there hasnt been a Bioware game I havent enjoyed, and I am completely stoked for DA2 and ME3.
This. Anyone who claims Bethesda games are dumbed down...well you obviously haven't played them to the extent I have, or you have a different version of dumbed down to me. Take Morrowind; graphics are pretty bad, but the gameplay mechanics are awesome and there is an open world to explore; it took me about 12 hours to even start the main quest after leaving the ship, and I think I spent over 90 hours playing pure Vanilla Morrowind on my first playthrough, added into that Tribunal and Bloodmoon and you have a huge game. Yes you have to click to attack but that doesn't mean comments such as "OMGZ MORROWIND IS A
TOTAL BUTTON MASHER OMGZ" are any more true.
Yes, they took some skills out for Oblivion, and I would agree that the gameplay mechanics in Oblivion were dumbed down in regard to Morrowind, but was Oblivion as a whole a dumb game? If you think so then I take my (hypothetical) hat off to you, as you must be an extremely intelligent person, as I consider myself rather intelligent, and would not categorise Oblivion as a dumb game.
Despite that, Bethesda listened to the fans, and are introducing several new gamelply mechanics in Skyrim that weren't in Oblivion, such as the ability to mine and farm in towns, and to smith your own equipment. Plus the dragon fights look pretty epic, although they'll have trouble beating the first time I fought the High Dragon.
People applaud Bethesda for listening to the fans, and rightly so, but Bioware have done the exact same thing for DA:2. People complained about the silly shuffle your character did, so they fixed it. People complained about how unrealistically slow 2h warriors were, so that was fixed too. Yes they made some changes that many people won't appreciate, but it is impossible to please anyone. Finally, anyone who says that Bioware don't care about their fans, the Bioware Boards have one of the largest developer inputs from any games forum I've seen; the Bethesda forums have no where near as much developer input, and this is coming from something of a Bethesda fanboy. Apart from Mothership Zeta.
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