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I mean, how do the Arvaarad control the mages? It isn't enough to just cut off their tongues, bind their hands and sew their lips together since they can still shoot fire and lightning and stuff while the Arvaarads can't.

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dilyla wrote...

Will we ever to get to romance a Qunari? I always wanted to get Sten alone......


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druplesnubb wrote...

I mean, how do the Arvaarad control the mages? It isn't enough to just cut off their tongues, bind their hands and sew their lips together since they can still shoot fire and lightning and stuff while the Arvaarads can't.


How did real-world slavemasters throughout history control slaves more physically powerful than themselves?  While actual use of force was often part of it, the means of control were primarily social and psychological. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 07 mars 2011 - 03:39 .


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Deified Data wrote...

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Also, female Qunari look like this:
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The most attractive of the DA races, IMO.


Draenei ! Their skin needs to be bluer ^_^

Modifié par Akhilles, 07 mars 2011 - 04:06 .


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why didnt Sten have horns in DA:O?

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Akhilles wrote...

Deified Data wrote...

<snip>

Also, female Qunari look like this:
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The most attractive of the DA races, IMO.


Draenei ! Their skin needs to be bluer ^_^


I understand why the women aren't fighters. Men are much more bulky and have more muscle to do the job.

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didymos1120

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mikx82 wrote...

why didnt Sten have horns in DA:O?


Oh, Jesus.

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mikx82

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didymos1120 wrote...

mikx82 wrote...

why didnt Sten have horns in DA:O?


Oh, Jesus.


HAHAHAHA

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Ok so what about Sten in DA:O is he a true Qunari?
He doesn't have the horns like these guys.

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Some Qunari are born without horns, from the wiki:

"Some are born without them, but it is not considered a defect—on the contrary, those born without horns are considered special, as they are meant for a special role in qunari society such as a Ben-Hassrath or an envoy to the other races. Sten, as a soldier of the Beresaad, falls into this category. It is not uncommon for qunari who betray their beliefs to remove their own horns (as in the case of Armaas), though the reason for this act is not yet clear."

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Copyright Theft wrote...

Some Qunari are born without horns, from the wiki:

"Some are born without them, but it is not considered a defect—on the contrary, those born without horns are considered special, as they are meant for a special role in qunari society such as a Ben-Hassrath or an envoy to the other races. Sten, as a soldier of the Beresaad, falls into this category. It is not uncommon for qunari who betray their beliefs to remove their own horns (as in the case of Armaas), though the reason for this act is not yet clear."


Just read the wikis from the link at the top and didn't see that.

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It's funny how the Qunari have "evolved" in such a short amount of time .... either Sten was a a pretty ugly mutant of his people or this is the weirdest transformation of a species since the Klingons one (appearence in Star Trek: The Original Series > The Next Generation), lol .... they now look way more brutal, less human .... not sure if I'll like that, depends on how they are presented now in Dragon Age 2 .... 3 more days to EU release ... damn. xD

(And yes, I read the Wiki, but it's still funny ..)

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Ob4rul3r wrote...

It's funny how the Qunari have "evolved" in such a short amount of time .... either Sten was a a pretty ugly mutant of his people or this is the weirdest transformation of a species since the Klingons one (appearence in Star Trek: The Original Series > The Next Generation), lol .... they now look way more brutal, less human .... not sure if I'll like that, depends on how they are presented now in Dragon Age 2 .... 3 more days to EU release ... damn. xD

(And yes, I read the Wiki, but it's still funny ..)


That's cause my elf warden went to their lands and set up some new ground rules! B)

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I didnt like the Qunari in DAO except for Sten and now all of a sudden they have horns and look like the spawn of Satan. I have played too much Diablo II to have any love for these filthy creatures. They remind me too much of alot of the enemies in Diablo II.
 
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Copyright Theft wrote...

Some Qunari are born without horns, from the wiki:

"Some are born without them, but it is not considered a defect—on the contrary, those born without horns are considered special, as they are meant for a special role in qunari society such as a Ben-Hassrath or an envoy to the other races. Sten, as a soldier of the Beresaad, falls into this category. It is not uncommon for qunari who betray their beliefs to remove their own horns (as in the case of Armaas), though the reason for this act is not yet clear."


Then I wish they would explain how EVERY Qunari you meet in DAO has no horns if this were true.

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Akhilles wrote...

Deified Data wrote...

<snip>

Also, female Qunari look like this:
Image IPB

The most attractive of the DA races, IMO.


Draenei ! Their skin needs to be bluer ^_^

As weird as it is, I wish there was a romanceable Female Qunari if they are as attractive as the one up top.

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TexasToast712 wrote...

As weird as it is, I wish there was a romanceable Female Qunari if they are as attractive as the one up top.


I thought the same thing when I first saw that particular bit of concept art. But there aren't any female Qunari in DAII. Maybe in the next game.

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Sweet Jesus!..eerr Maker...Andraste's beard! The might of the Ber- Asaad!

They dont look like Stern...well it did say the only Qun seen by outsiders were their soldiers... but still what a drastic change!!

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Copyright Theft wrote...

Some Qunari are born without horns, from the wiki:

"Some are born without them, but it is not considered a defect—on the contrary, those born without horns are considered special, as they are meant for a special role in qunari society such as a Ben-Hassrath or an envoy to the other races. Sten, as a soldier of the Beresaad, falls into this category. It is not uncommon for qunari who betray their beliefs to remove their own horns (as in the case of Armaas), though the reason for this act is not yet clear."


Then I wish they would explain how EVERY Qunari you meet in DAO has no horns if this were true.


Because the only Qunari you meet are Sten and outcasts. In reality they wanted to give the Qunari a feature ot make them different from humans to demonstrate they were a different species and not just wierd humans.

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Sometimes it really makes me wonder why we did not have a qunari party member in DA2

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Travie wrote...

I foresee my first Qunari conversation going something like this:

Hawke: OMG! Are those horns!?
Hawke: I met a Qunari before and he didn't have horns.
Hawke:... Can I touch your horns?

Qunari: ...


Varric:  "And thus we discovered Hawke's previously unmentioned horns fetish . . ."

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TexasToast712 wrote...

Then I wish they would explain how EVERY Qunari you meet in DAO has no horns if this were true.


How many do you meet?  Answer: hardly any, compared to the total qunari population.  Hardly any in absolute terms, really.  And what sub-populations of qunari are they from?  Answer: those who are extremely likely to be hornless.  I.e. just mentally chalk it up to sampling bias and a bit of "luck" and do your best to cope.  

Of course, you know full well why they really don't: because the horned qunari models didn't exist when Origins was made.  Seeking some detailed lore justification for this "retro-fluke" is a fool's errand.  You're not gonna get one, and it's totally unecessary to have one.

And, since not all the qunari we see in Origins are actually followers of the Qun, there couldn't be just one single explanation anyway.  There'd have to be one for Sten and his guys (which we've actually got, BTW: they obviously were picked to scout Fereldan because of being hornless. No need to frighten the natives too much just yet), then one for every other group (like the Kadan-fe mercs), and then a bunch more for the various lone individuals.

Having that whole collection of well-justified, logical, "Why I personally don't happen to have horns"  backstories shoehorned in somewhere would be far more contrived than the perfectly serviceable handwave we've already got: sometimes, statistical anomalies like that just happen.  Not worth worrying about.  Let's go kill some darkspawn or something.

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#248
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didymos1120 wrote...

TexasToast712 wrote...

Then I wish they would explain how EVERY Qunari you meet in DAO has no horns if this were true.


How many do you meet?  Answer: hardly any, compared to the total qunari population.  Hardly any in absolute terms, really.  And what sub-populations of qunari are they from?  Answer: those who are extremely likely to be hornless.  I.e. just mentally chalk it up to sampling bias and a bit of "luck" and do your best to cope.  

Of course, you know full well why they really don't: because the horned qunari models didn't exist when Origins was made.  Seeking some detailed lore justification for this "retro-fluke" is a fool's errand.  You're not gonna get one, and it's totally unecessary to have one.

And, since not all the qunari we see in Origins are actually followers of the Qun, there couldn't be just one single explanation anyway.  There'd have to be one for Sten and his guys (which we've actually got, BTW: they obviously were picked to scout Fereldan because of being hornless. No need to frighten the natives too much just yet), then one for every other group (like the Kadan-fe mercs), and then a bunch more for the various lone individuals.

Having that whole collection of well-justified, logical, "Why I personally don't happen to have horns"  backstories shoehorned in somewhere would be far more contrived than the perfectly serviceable handwave we've already got: sometimes, statistical anomalies like that just happen.  Not worth worrying about.  Let's go kill some darkspawn or something.


Well there is that Qunari only mecenary group of about 12 Qunari that you have to assasinate for the Crows. I would have expected at least one of them to have horns. Oh well. No point raging about it now.

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Damn! I don't remember Sten having horns or Baraka teeth. I musta been really drunk that whole time we were fighting the darkspawn. Or maybe the Darkspawn Taint clouded my vision.

Edit: Oh I see now his mouth is sewn shut becuase that was a mage. Beg's the question though. How do they eat?
Still don't explain the Horns
What's this wiki everyone keeps talking about and how official is it?. Becuase I looked at the Bioware page and it says nothing about it. TBH the "some don't have them" is sorta a throwaway explination as there are more physical differences besides just the horns.

I mean a better explination IMHO would be that the qunari have conquered some human civilizations (which they have acording to DA:O) like Par Vollen and converted them into followers of the Qun and Sten was just a Human Qunari and not a Demon Qunari

Modifié par Geth Hunter Alpha, 08 mars 2011 - 07:37 .


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I want to see a scene where a qunari is relieving a kid of his cookies "for his own good" (in the words of the sten when bribing the boatsman at circle in dragon age 1). If sten says he did it to some poor kid it would be funny to have such a scene in dragon age 2 T_T (u can hope maybe there is cookie reference somewhere in dragon age 2 too <.<).
Link to a vid caption of the scene made from some1 in youtube: (incase u cant remember that scene with sten giving out some of his cookies and where he got it from ...)