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[Phoenixblight]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Sorry but your complaints will be falling on deaf ears, its the weekend and you aren't the first person to bring this up. Every release people always bring this up and it won't happen they have set the release date and thats what it will be. Play another game, read a book, etc and wait until its released for you. 

I am aware that there's little hope they'll reconsider this for the DA2 release, but hopefully they'll at least handle it differently with the next game release, if enough people voice their disagreement with this procedure.

Online Release Control doesn't seem to serve any reasonable purpose. All it seems to do is punish legal customers who happen to live outside of America. This silly SecuROM Release Control thing is making me regret that I pre-ordered for PC instead of Xbox 360. Perhaps it's making me regret having pre-ordered to begin with.

I hate videogame piracy, but I think this system will encourage many to do it.

Now you are just becoming a baby because you can't get the game the same day as the Americans you are talking about piracy. Yeah thats real mature. You knew the release date they have had set for months and now that its close you are mad because the AAmericans get it first knowing damn well this has always been the case. 


People are just grabbing at straws now. 

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 05 mars 2011 - 04:10 .

[Moondoggie]

Epic Legion wrote...

I never understood why EA does that. Valve never did something awful like this for example. Even bad and evil Activision released Black Ops normally.

Valve forcing people to have steam just to play their games isn't bad? What if people don't want steam and just want to play the game? I don't want to install their crappy software just to play a game.

[Moondoggie]

I wish people would stop moaning about every little detail it gets boring. from the dawn of time games got released in America before Europe. And it used to be much worse when i was a kid Sega Genesis/Mega Drive games took months to be released in the UK sometimes if we even got it at all. At least it's just a 3 day wait for DAII. And it's a Friday which means we have the whole weekend ahead to play games. Some of us have jobs and school to attend in the week so having it on Tuesday would be pointless anyway.

Griping about the release day or release control is pointless. EA will not automatically change their policy just because a few gamers are upset that if they manage to get an early copy they won't be able to play it. Release controls are in place to stop piracy leaking games like a month before release.

But i guess most gamers are against supporting Bioware when it's doesn't suit them.

Modifié par Moondoggie, 05 mars 2011 - 04:21 .

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Now you are just becoming a baby because you can't get the game the same day as the Americans you are talking about piracy. Yeah thats real mature. You knew the release date they have had set for months and now that its close you are mad because the AAmericans get it first knowing damn well this has always been the case. 


People are just grabbing at straws now. 

I never said I'd pirate it myself, I won't. But you can bet that many people will. If you think that this Release Control thing will dissuade more people from piracy than it'll encourage, you're deceiving yourself.

Just because it has "always" been the case, doesn't mean it's how it should continue to be. And the Americans aren't "getting" it first. The boxes are here, and Europeans can get their hands on them legally before the release. We just won't be able to play, thanks to this Release Control thing nobody really profits from.

I'll just ignore your little insults.

[Epic Legion]

Moondoggie wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

I never understood why EA does that. Valve never did something awful like this for example. Even bad and evil Activision released Black Ops normally.

Valve forcing people to have steam just to play their games isn't bad? What if people don't want steam and just want to play the game? I don't want to install their crappy software just to play a game.

Steam is the best software ever created. And you seem to be a Valve/Steam hater.

[Phoenixblight]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Now you are just becoming a baby because you can't get the game the same day as the Americans you are talking about piracy. Yeah thats real mature. You knew the release date they have had set for months and now that its close you are mad because the Americans get it first knowing damn well this has always been the case. 


People are just grabbing at straws now. 

I never said I'd pirate it myself, I won't. But you can bet that many people will. If you think that this Release Control thing will dissuade more people from piracy than it'll encourage, you're deceiving yourself.

Just because it has "always" been the case, doesn't mean it's how it should continue to be. And the Americans aren't "getting" it first. The boxes are here, and Europeans can get their hands on them legally before the release. We just won't be able to play, thanks to this Release Control thing nobody really profits from.

I'll just ignore your little insults.

Pirates will always pirate they make whatever reason to do it because they don't want to pay for X or they don't like X. THis release date control has been in games for 2 years now, I knew there was going to be release control. Everyone does it. 

[Moondoggie]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

I never said I'd pirate it myself, I won't. But you can bet that many people will. If you think that this Release Control thing will dissuade more people from piracy than it'll encourage, you're deceiving yourself.

Just because it has "always" been the case, doesn't mean it's how it should continue to be. And the Americans aren't "getting" it first. The boxes are here, and Europeans can get their hands on them legally before the release. We just won't be able to play, thanks to this Release Control thing nobody really profits from.

I'll just ignore your little insults.

Grow up.

How in the world does release control encourage piracy? Apart from a few people throwing a hissy fit because they have to wait a bit longer it won't make a shred of difference to how many pirate the game. Just that they wont be able to pirate the game like a month in advance and leak it which is the purpose of the release control system.

You have offered no actual evidence for your sweeping statement that it encourages piracy you simply threatened to pirate the game offered an idiotic statement in an attempt to justify your actions.

Nobody in EA will change policy because of some whiny little kid who's crying because he can't have everything his own way. So don't waste your time going on about it.

[Moondoggie]

Epic Legion wrote...

Steam is the best software ever created. And you seem to be a Valve/Steam hater.

Yes i'm a hater because i disagree with their policy >.>

In the same vain i could call you a Valve fanboy which you likely are.

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Pirates will always pirate they make whatever reason to do it because they don't want to pay for X or they don't like X. THis release date control has been in games for 2 years now, I knew there was going to be release control. Everyone does it. 

Uh, actually, I play videogames quite often, purchase new ones regularly, and only came across online Release Control 2 times so far. Maybe I'm just lucky with the games I pick? I don't know. Either way, this Release Control is a horrible practice. If they set a global date for it, fine, I can live with that. But don't give people outside of America an artificial disadvantage when they're lucky enough to get their hands on a game at the American release date.

[Jarcander]

Moondoggie wrote...

How in the world does release control encourage piracy?

Why good sir/madam, the answer is simple.

No more waiting 3 days to play the game you already hold in your hands. That's all it takes, really. And they have no ill intent towards our favourite devs, they just want to play the game.

Modifié par Jarcander, 05 mars 2011 - 04:31 .

[MikeSunrider]

Now, I do agree that there should be a worldwide release whenever possible, and as far as I know, games are always sold on Thursdays in Europe instead of Fridays. At least all the big releases have been on thursdays unless I am mistaking them with cinema releases hehe.

If there is a possibility to give us Europeans an unlock the 8th of March just in case, it would be wonderful

[Moondoggie]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Uh, actually, I play videogames quite often, purchase new ones regularly, and only came across online Release Control 2 times so far. Maybe I'm just lucky with the games I pick? I don't know. Either way, this Release Control is a horrible practice. If they set a global date for it, fine, I can live with that. But don't give people outside of America an artificial disadvantage when they're lucky enough to get their hands on a game at the American release date.

Why should you have the opprtunity to play it earlier and the Americans cannot? Stop making one rule for you and another for everyone else.

[DW2511]

So, no one made a Harbinger reference yet? You people disappoint me.

[vometia]

Epic Legion wrote...

Steam is the best software ever created.

...?!

[Moondoggie]

Jarcander wrote...

Why good sir/madam, the answer is simple.

No more waiting 3 days to play the game you already hold in your hands. That's all it takes, really. And they have no ill intent towards our favourite devs, they just want to play the game.

You wouldn't be able to play the pirate version either. Release controls exist to stop pirates getting a head start. In Europe you'd still have to wait 3 days with a pirate version making it pointless.

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Moondoggie wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

I never said I'd pirate it myself, I won't. But you can bet that many people will. If you think that this Release Control thing will dissuade more people from piracy than it'll encourage, you're deceiving yourself.

Just because it has "always" been the case, doesn't mean it's how it should continue to be. And the Americans aren't "getting" it first. The boxes are here, and Europeans can get their hands on them legally before the release. We just won't be able to play, thanks to this Release Control thing nobody really profits from.

I'll just ignore your little insults.

Grow up.

How in the world does release control encourage piracy? Apart from a few people throwing a hissy fit because they have to wait a bit longer it won't make a shred of difference to how many pirate the game. Just that they wont be able to pirate the game like a month in advance and leak it which is the purpose of the release control system.

You have offered no actual evidence for your sweeping statement that it encourages piracy you simply threatened to pirate the game offered an idiotic statement in an attempt to justify your actions.

Nobody in EA will change policy because of some whiny little kid who's crying because he can't have everything his own way. So don't waste your time going on about it.

Looking at your post, I don't think I'm the one who needs to grow up, here... if my thread upsets you that much, feel free to leave it. Throwing a hissy fit about other people supposedly throwing hissy fits doesn't really help anyone.
And no, I did not threaten to pirate the game. As I said, I won't pirate it. But I'm sure I would, if my moral standards were lower than they are - because this Release Control thing doesn't seem fair in my eyes.
Also, if the Release Control is only there to try and keep people from pirating it a month in advance, why the 3 difference between American and European Release Control?

[Jarcander]

DW2511 wrote...

So, no one made a Harbinger reference yet? You people disappoint me.

I love it how DA and ME forums have these expectation. I honestly don't recall which reference you are looki... oh wait: 

RELEASING CONTROL

They are nice.

[Phoenixblight]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Pirates will always pirate they make whatever reason to do it because they don't want to pay for X or they don't like X. THis release date control has been in games for 2 years now, I knew there was going to be release control. Everyone does it. 

Uh, actually, I play videogames quite often, purchase new ones regularly, and only came across online Release Control 2 times so far. Maybe I'm just lucky with the games I pick? I don't know. Either way, this Release Control is a horrible practice. If they set a global date for it, fine, I can live with that. But don't give people outside of America an artificial disadvantage when they're lucky enough to get their hands on a game at the American release date.

Dead Space 2, Fallout 3 , New Vegas, Dragon AGe 2,  Starcraft, Bulletstorm, and Borderlands. These are all just going off my head, they have all included Release Control. 

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 05 mars 2011 - 04:36 .

[Jarcander]

Moondoggie wrote...

You wouldn't be able to play the pirate version either. Release controls exist to stop pirates getting a head start. In Europe you'd still have to wait 3 days with a pirate version making it pointless.

Not quite correct. Also, I refuse to continue discussing this foul piracy.

[Moondoggie]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Also, if the Release Control is only there to try and keep people from pirating it a month in advance, why the 3 difference between American and European Release Control?

Um....Because the release control coincides with the release dates in the USA and Europe? I would have thought the answer to that was obvious.

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Moondoggie wrote...

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

Uh, actually, I play videogames quite often, purchase new ones regularly, and only came across online Release Control 2 times so far. Maybe I'm just lucky with the games I pick? I don't know. Either way, this Release Control is a horrible practice. If they set a global date for it, fine, I can live with that. But don't give people outside of America an artificial disadvantage when they're lucky enough to get their hands on a game at the American release date.

Why should you have the opprtunity to play it earlier and the Americans cannot? Stop making one rule for you and another for everyone else.

What? Your reading comprehension needs some work, I think. I said, have a global date. You know, "global", as in, "for the whole world". That *includes* America.

To make this clear: I say, let everyone across the planet play the game starting at the same date. Don't have online restrictions beyond a single release date.

[R34P3RR3D33M3R]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Dead Space 2, Fallout 3 , New Vegas, Dragon AGe 2,  Starcraft, Bulletstorm, and Borderlands. These are all just going off my head, they have all included Release Control. 

Ah yes, I was lucky then. Deadspace 2 and Fallout 3 as well as Bulletstorm I all bought for the Xbox 360 without online Release Controls. Didn't get the other games.

[Moondoggie]

R34P3RR3D33M3R wrote...

What? Your reading comprehension needs some work, I think. I said, have a global date. You know, "global", as in, "for the whole world". That *includes* America.

To make this clear: I say, let everyone across the planet play the game starting at the same date. Don't have online restrictions beyond a single release date.

The release control coincides with the country release dates. If it's global then people outside the states can get the game to work early while in the States they would have to wait till the 8th still. I hope that clears up what i was getting at for you.

[vometia]

Moondoggie wrote...

I wish people would stop moaning about every little detail it gets boring. from the dawn of time games got released in America before Europe.

Well it is irritating; it's also rather pointless which seems to make it all the more irritating.  I think the problem we're seeing is the repeated application of minor irritations which eventually comprise a major irritation, only there's no obvious target against which to express it so it comes across as "moaning", which yet again compounds the overall amount of irritation that people are feeling.

Maybe it'd be better to remove the cause of said moaning rather than trying to suppress the symptoms: it wouldn't kill them to have a single, standardised release date.  There are enough irritations in life as it is without recreation and escapism adding a few of their own.

[coolide]

How do you know that there are not reprocussions for them releasing the game in Europe the same time as North America? They do it for a reason. You don't know why they do what they do. So don't assume.