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[laudable11]

As always I play a black character. If the devs make it available. But I wasn't to happy about the skin tone options in the xbox version of Dragon Age: Orgins.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 was spot on perfect.

[Twofold Black]

foxtrotcharlie wrote...

Although I really don't want to think about how much time and energy it would take to create a hair style for F!Hawke which contained the detail of something like this:

I played the RIFT beta recently, and there was a pretty convincing 'fro for whatever the race of giant purple people is called (with earrings that were either unfortunate or totally awesome -- the total effect was very Pam Grier). It can very much be done with present-day texture resolutions and polygon counts, it just rarely is.

[Eludajae]

For Gods sake people. He used African as a reference point for you to know what color his hawke will be. Please, check your troll at the door.

[elearon1]

xXShinseiXx wrote...
 No one should be ok with being identified as who they are by the color of their skin. People are still people. Therefore, some of us "people of color" can be a little sensitive on the subject. Hope that clears it up a little.  
Myself? Idc really.  Life is too short to deal with other people's issues. 

It's a description, though.  I have to fill out "white" on paperwork that asks me for my race; when a group of black people are getting together and talking they are more likely to say "I ran into this white guy today" than they would otherwise ... it is only an issue once someone makes an issue of it. (so, yes, if you were using "white" as a pejorative in that satement [or, likewise someone used "black" in the same way] it would be inappropriate)  But we use descriptions to refer to people all the time; "I was talking to this old woman today" or "I ran into this goofy looking guy at the store" ... you can't expect people to stop using a descriptive term because it happens to be the color of your skin.

But, again, this is WAY off topic ... so ... how bout them Dwarves?

[kekvitirae]

There is a bit of a fluffy in politics and education about calling someone 'black' or 'white' or whatever. Personally, I believe 'African American' is a bad choice of words. It implies 1) the person is American, and 2) Africa is a country. 2 is definitely wrong, and 1 would be wrong if said person was not an American. Furthermore, not all people from Africa are black. What about those in Egypt? Egypt is an African country, but the majority are not black. A better way to distinguish ethnicity, if you want to be more "policitally correct," would be to have their country (not continent) first and their current citizenship last (only if they emigrated). For example, one Sociology professor in my university is an immigrant from Kenya, so he is a Kenyan American.
Anthropologically speaking, light(er) skinned people from Europe, the Middle East, and South Asia are Caucasoids; most blacks are either Capoids or Congoids (both formally Negroids); and Asians and Native Americans (both continents) are Mongoloids, but these terms have fell out of favor due to political correctness, particularly about the term Negroids.
/offtopic

Just imagine your character is a qunari.

[foxtrotcharlie]

Twofold Black wrote...
I played the RIFT beta recently, and there was a pretty convincing 'fro for whatever the race of giant purple people is called (with earrings that were either unfortunate or totally awesome -- the total effect was very Pam Grier). It can very much be done with present-day texture resolutions and polygon counts, it just rarely is.

Ohh, that makes me very interested:wub:. Bioware, please make a Pam Grier-fashioned big beautiful afro all of us!

[vometia]

Gamer Xtreme wrote...

Do you really need to say African American? I mean, black is acceptable anyway but considering the character is from a fictional world where neither Africa no America exists...

And has an English accent...

I've never really understood that particular terminology, and anecdotally it apparently causes more offence than its alternatives since it's often foisted on people who are neither African nor American.

[BSBNess]

Incantrix wrote...

I'm glad they decided to change the families color too! My black cousland warrioress felt kinda out of place...

Mine too and every time the father said pup and everything to her, I was like you know your wife cheated on you or maybe he thought she had a great tan from practicing so hard to be a warrior.

To answer the Op's question I will be making one as well.

[mya11]

I play always female black or metisse, I create a style for lady hawke same as Halle Berry:wub:

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[Kopawapatezi]

vometia wrote...

Gamer Xtreme wrote...

Do you really need to say African American? I mean, black is acceptable anyway but considering the character is from a fictional world where neither Africa no America exists...

And has an English accent...

I've never really understood that particular terminology, and anecdotally it apparently causes more offence than its alternatives since it's often foisted on people who are neither African nor American.

Don't you mean "Ferelden" accent? ;^D

Or Fereldenish, or... something. Peh!

[BSBNess]

laudable11 wrote...

As always I play a black character. If the devs make it available. But I wasn't to happy about the skin tone options in the xbox version of Dragon Age: Orgins.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 was spot on perfect.

I agree with this so much.  I do the same thing as well with me playing as a female.

[frostserpant]

Since Ferelden is supposed to be England/britain/europe/whatever, I guess I will go with an anglo-saxon looking fellow. Blue eyes, blonde/brown/red hair and pale skin. My main question is about facial hair. To facial hair or not to facial hair? Maybe I will just make 2 characters. 1 with facial hair and 1 without.

[Voidlight]

I plan to recreate Tyrone Shepard for Dragon Age 2 if possible.

[Johun]

kekvitirae wrote...

There is a bit of a fluffy in politics and education about calling someone 'black' or 'white' or whatever. Personally, I believe 'African American' is a bad choice of words. It implies 1) the person is American, and 2) Africa is a country. 2 is definitely wrong, and 1 would be wrong if said person was not an American. Furthermore, not all people from Africa are black. What about those in Egypt? Egypt is an African country, but the majority are not black. A better way to distinguish ethnicity, if you want to be more "policitally correct," would be to have their country (not continent) first and their current citizenship last (only if they emigrated). For example, one Sociology professor in my university is an immigrant from Kenya, so he is a Kenyan American.
Anthropologically speaking, light(er) skinned people from Europe, the Middle East, and South Asia are Caucasoids; most blacks are either Capoids or Congoids (both formally Negroids); and Asians and Native Americans (both continents) are Mongoloids, but these terms have fell out of favor due to political correctness, particularly about the term Negroids.
/offtopic

Just imagine your character is a qunari.

Qunari aren't human.

A dark-skinned Thedosian would most likely trace their lineage back to Rivain or Seheron.
Most Chasind encountered in Origins are dark-skinned as well, which is a little strange considering they live on Southern the extreme of the continent, almost at the South Pole.

[vometia]

Kopawapatezi wrote...

vometia wrote...

And has an English accent...

Don't you mean "Ferelden" accent? ;^D

Or Fereldenish, or... something. Peh!

I did wonder about making the point that it was the in-game representation, but given my ability to write mangled sentences at the best of times... I didn't.

frostserpant wrote...

Since Ferelden is supposed to be England/britain/europe/whatever, I guess I will go with an anglo-saxon looking fellow. Blue eyes, blonde/brown/red hair and pale skin. My main question is about facial hair. To facial hair or not to facial hair? Maybe I will just make 2 characters. 1 with facial hair and 1 without.

Most English types seem to be brown-haired and -eyed, though who knows.  Is Fereldan supposed to be NW Europe?  I know much of Middle Earth was in essence representative of that area, but in this case I've no idea...

[frostserpant]

vometia wrote...

Kopawapatezi wrote...

vometia wrote...

And has an English accent...

Don't you mean "Ferelden" accent? ;^D

Or Fereldenish, or... something. Peh!

I did wonder about making the point that it was the in-game representation, but given my ability to write mangled sentences at the best of times... I didn't.

frostserpant wrote...

Since Ferelden is supposed to be England/britain/europe/whatever, I guess I will go with an anglo-saxon looking fellow. Blue eyes, blonde/brown/red hair and pale skin. My main question is about facial hair. To facial hair or not to facial hair? Maybe I will just make 2 characters. 1 with facial hair and 1 without.

Most English types seem to be brown-haired and -eyed, though who knows.  Is Fereldan supposed to be NW Europe?  I know much of Middle Earth was in essence representative of that area, but in this case I've no idea...

I read on the wiki that ferelden was based on medieval britain and anglo saxon culture. Also, I think it is the celts who are mostly brown eyed. Well it's hard to tell anymore.. us saxons and celts are mixed together quite a bit in England.

[XX55XX]

I'm going to recreate Barack Obama if possible.

Barack Obama Hawke FTW!

[Rawgrim]

Its ok to call someone black, in Dragon Age. No slaves came to America from Africa, in Thedas.

[GGoodie]

If it were possible, I would make a black rogue named Afro Ninja.
High Hopes for DA3! xD

[KirstyLionheart]

So basically you made David Dickinson?
Only saying because Africa doesn't seem to exist in Thedas.
^^

[GoldiGoldberg]

thatbwoyblu wrote...

Some of you guys seem to have forgotten that Africa is the Mother Land so I can care less about a Bioware Devs claim that Africa aint apart of the Dragon Age universe.Africa birthed all of you ungrateful human beings, including the ones in Dragon Age.

What I actually dislike the most are a) petty political correctness debates regarding gaming and rainbow agenda hysterics who try to impose their "Quota! Quota!"-stance on other players. Hell, Dragon Age is definately built around an Central/Northern European-centered world and storyline. Love it or leave it, easy as that. As Dragon Age:Origins received some crying by ethnic minorities for being "racially monotone", Bioware seems to include a more or less ethnic character with Isabella being a mut/gypsy/swarth/Arab/mediterranean/call it what you like. 

Yet it seems that some people focus on the concept of imposing their rainbow world on all sci-fi and fantasy scenarios. Not every fantasy world has to be a rainbow world or needs a multiracial population and heroes! Is there any rule or law which imposes something like that? 

I just don't get it. If I was an ethnic minority (=if I wasn´t an European), I would feel more offended by companies who add some ethnic characters to a game or movie just for the quota! "This hero group consists of 5 people: One Black, one Asian, one Latino, an with native blood and one white!" Weeeee. Doesn't make sense, but people do many things to comfort the demand of those who cry the loudest. This may be the reason why Samuel L. Jackson seems to have a role in every second hollywood movie. 

By the way, the cradle of manhind seems to be Africa, but there is absolutely no evidence that the older human forms were black or had black phenotypes. As manhind evolved further, people adapted to their region. For example, most monkeys (our nearest cousins with respect to evolution) have a rather white skin below their fur, like chimps. If you think the first humans some million years ago looked like Denzel Washington you may be awfully wrong...

Anyway, I hope Bioware doesn't fall for the political correctness hysteria. If you don't like the scenario, invest some million dollars and create your own fantasy scenario and built it around black sub-saharan cultures. And maybe you should play Guild Wars: Nightfalls.  But Black people in a fantasy world like Ferelden don't make sense. As much sense as Europid people who have main roles in a sub-saharian orientated scenario. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. If there is an European-orientated scenario, don't mess it up with nonsense. And vice versa.

Modifié par GoldiGoldberg, 06 mars 2011 - 02:17 .

[panamakira]

Well I don't know about Africa or America in Thedas but I will most certainly be Lady Hawke who is from Ferelden, living in Kirkwall and happens to have a darker skin color than most.

I'm probably wherever Isabela came from. Not all of her coloring is sun-burn. Isn't she from Ferelden? I don't know anything about Isabela.

[Silentmode]

The politically correct term is Rivaini-Ferelden.

[DW2511]

Silentmode wrote...

The politically correct term is Rivaini-Ferelden.

Where are my royalties? I patented that,hehe.