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Checked my map of Thedas - can't find either an Africa or an America.

But seriously, I think it is great that if you choose to play a Hawke who looks african, arab, asian or anything else some attempt has been made to have your family resemble your Hawke.

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My hawkes a pasty ginger.

I'm trying something new.

*cough*
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kekvitirae wrote...

GoldiGoldberg wrote...
By the way, the cradle of manhind seems to be Africa, but there is absolutely no evidence that the older human forms were black or had black phenotypes. As manhind evolved further, people adapted to their region. For example, most monkeys (our nearest cousins with respect to evolution) have a rather white skin below their fur, like chimps. If you think the first humans some million years ago looked like Denzel Washington you may be awfully wrong...


*sigh*
Yes, you are right that the cradle of "man" was Africa... partially. ****** erectus- our closest extinct relative, not counting ****** sapiens (Archaic)- roamed out of Africa and into the Middle East and up into Europe and Southern Asia. H. erectus is not considered human.

No, you are wrong about our closest cousins. Our closest cousins are apes (specifically chimpanzees), not monkeys. Monkeys (and prosimians) are the furthest from us in the evolutionary tree.

No, humans weren't around millions of years ago. That time frame ("some" million years) would belong to the genus of Australopithecus as well as ****** habilis. ****** sapiens didn't come along until ~0.5mya, and these were the Archaic variety of humans, sharing the Earth with both ****** erectus and ****** neanderthalensis. ****** sapiens sapiens (modern humans) didn't appear until ~0.2mya.

And now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
G. I. JOOOOOOOOOE!
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Wait, but when did Jesus create Adam and Eve?

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thatbwoyblu wrote...

Some of you guys seem to have forgotten that Africa is the Mother Land so I can care less about a Bioware Devs claim that Africa aint apart of the Dragon Age universe.Africa birthed all of you ungrateful human beings, including the ones in Dragon Age.


You are correct. Humans in Thedas teleported from Earth to Thedas.

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Dangerfoot wrote...
Wait, but when did Jesus create Adam and Eve?


Protheans, man. Protheans.

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How many kids did Noah and Joan of Arc have?

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Filament wrote...

How many kids did Noah and Joan of Arc have?

Only one, the OGB.

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kekvitirae wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...
Wait, but when did Jesus create Adam and Eve?


Protheans, man. Protheans.


Actually, it's the Keepers. The enslaved and repurposed by the Reapers Dalish mages, who lasted billions of years into the future , creating galactic life after every Reaper harvest, and maintaining the Citadel.

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DW2511 wrote...

kekvitirae wrote...

Dangerfoot wrote...
Wait, but when did Jesus create Adam and Eve?


Protheans, man. Protheans.


Actually, it's the Keepers. The enslaved and repurposed by the Reapers Dalish mages, who lasted billions of years into the future , creating galactic life after every Reaper harvest, and maintaining the Citadel.

Ah Reapers ... sentient machines allegedly waiting in Darkspace ... we have dismissed this claim.

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xzxzxz701 wrote...

There are no black people in Ferelden, your just a dark skined white guy.

    I am sure there are in the setting... The pirate lady already has a mediterranian complexition..  It isn't a stretch for there to be black people... 

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Skemte wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

There are no black people in Ferelden, your just a dark skined white guy.

    I am sure there are in the setting... The pirate lady already has a mediterranian complexition..  It isn't a stretch for there to be black people... 

lol ...

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TheDreamSeeker wrote...

android654 wrote...

I always thought Duncan looked like he was of Indian descent. Also, DA: O really messed up the darker skin tones, ME2 nailed it pretty well.

Yeah, you could be correct. But I also thought he could have been based on the Portuguese. Well, the tanned Portuguese at least. I thought it made sense considering all the accents that have been chosen for the game thus far have been in quite close proximity to the (English) Fereldens.


Well, India and GB have a long sordid history... THen again they do with pretty much every cultutre in the world, so pretty much all peoples are fair game. The UK has a pretty big numbers of different ethnic groups.

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android654 wrote...

I always thought Duncan looked like he was of Indian descent. Also, DA: O really messed up the darker skin tones, ME2 nailed it pretty well.



YES!! they did an awsome job and i was also glad to see that jacob wasnt stereotyped like black people are in most games. 

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JetsoverEverything wrote...

android654 wrote...

I always thought Duncan looked like he was of Indian descent. Also, DA: O really messed up the darker skin tones, ME2 nailed it pretty well.



YES!! they did an awsome job and i was also glad to see that jacob wasnt stereotyped like black people are in most games. 


I was glad too, especially since I don't get too see too many people that look like I do in the type of fiction I like. Not that its a huge problem, it's just nice to see. I've come to terms with the fact that fiction caters to stereotypical notions of the world.

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JetsoverEverything wrote...

android654 wrote...

I always thought Duncan looked like he was of Indian descent. Also, DA: O really messed up the darker skin tones, ME2 nailed it pretty well.



YES!! they did an awsome job and i was also glad to see that jacob wasnt stereotyped like black people are in most games. 


You mean so black we are green. Posted Image

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They were so careful not to give Jacob any possible stereotypes that he ended up being a void of any kind of personality or culture. They should of just had a life-sized cardboard cutout of him saluting Shepard that Garrus (or another crew member) could unfold and put in the background for each scene.

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Dr. wonderful wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

android654 wrote...

I always thought Duncan looked like he was of Indian descent. Also, DA: O really messed up the darker skin tones, ME2 nailed it pretty well.



YES!! they did an awsome job and i was also glad to see that jacob wasnt stereotyped like black people are in most games. 


You mean so black we are green. Posted Image

Thanks


umm.... you lost me.

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

They were so careful not to give Jacob any possible stereotypes that he ended up being a void of any kind of personality or culture. They should of just had a life-sized cardboard cutout of him saluting Shepard that Garrus (or another crew member) could unfold and put in the background for each scene.


That's kind of the point. Some people are dry, detatched and short with people, regardless of what they look like.

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JetsoverEverything wrote...

android654 wrote...

I always thought Duncan looked like he was of Indian descent. Also, DA: O really messed up the darker skin tones, ME2 nailed it pretty well.



YES!! they did an awsome job and i was also glad to see that jacob wasnt stereotyped like black people are in most games. 


It got real close though: "we'll spill some drinks on the citadel" and "looks like a suicide mission, I volunteer".  Those two had me rolling my eyes especially considering Miranda's response to the second about it being noble and all.

Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

They were so careful not to give Jacob any possible stereotypes that he ended up being a void of any kind of personality or culture. They should of just had a life-sized cardboard cutout of him saluting Shepard that Garrus (or another crew member) could unfold and put in the background for each scene.


Or they could have just written him like anyone else and he would have been fine.  

Believe it or not (and this isn't directed at you) there are black people in the world who don't bear every single stereotype that we've been exposed to.  I certainly don't.  I don't react to the use of the n-word because to me it's harmless.  In fact I take issue with others who share my skin color using the word and being offended at its use by others who don't look like us because they should know better.  I don't drink and I don't smoke so a scene from "Friday", "New Jack City", etc isn't something I'm familiar with because I never grew up with it.  I don't live and breath hip hop (I don't have a problem with it) as I'm more at home with rock.  In fact, the biggest musical influences in my life were Don Williams, Paul Simon (sans Garfunkel), Jimmy Cliff, U2, and Michael Jackson.  So why should I come across a character that has to fit a certain mold because of the color of their skin or not come across a character of color because someone has it mind that they won't do that character justice unless they encompass as many stereotypes as possible?

Modifié par Xeranx, 06 mars 2011 - 04:55 .


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JetsoverEverything wrote...

YES!! they did an awsome job and i was also glad to see that jacob wasnt stereotyped like black people are in most games. 

lol..."The prizzzzzzeeeeee"....:innocent:

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xzxzxz701 wrote...

There are no black people in Ferelden, your just a dark skined white guy.


:huh: What?

Is that some kind of joke?

Because if it isn't, I would like to know what this statement is actually supposed to mean.
Anyone, please feel free to answer.

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AlexXIV wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Considering neither Africa nor America exist in Dragon Age, I think it's acceptable to say "black."

I think it's more like a dark brown tone.


splotted purple? 

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No

Myob 

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Weltenschlange wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

There are no black people in Ferelden, your just a dark skined white guy.


:huh: What?

Is that some kind of joke?

Because if it isn't, I would like to know what this statement is actually supposed to mean.
Anyone, please feel free to answer.

I think they're saying that they don't have the features that people of african origin have on our planet. "black people" in DA are just white people with light mocha colored skin.

Basically like anime characters.

Modifié par Dangerfoot, 06 mars 2011 - 02:32 .


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Weltenschlange wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

There are no black people in Ferelden, your just a dark skined white guy.


:huh: What?

Is that some kind of joke?

Because if it isn't, I would like to know what this statement is actually supposed to mean.
Anyone, please feel free to answer.


The way the darker skin tones looked in DA: O looked like the characters were wearing heavy makeup, not like it was their actual skin tone.

Dangerfoot wrote...I think they're saying that they don't have the features that people of african origin have on our planet. "black people" in DA are just white people with light mocha colored skin.

Basically like anime characters.


It wasn't so much the features, they just looked like Laurence Olivier in Othello.

Xeranx wrote...It got real close though: "we'll spill some drinks on the citadel" and "looks like a suicide mission, I volunteer".  Those two had me rolling my eyes especially considering Miranda's response to the second about it being noble and all.


I don't see how those are stereotypical of black people. Seems more typical of soldier characters, which Jacob is.

Modifié par android654, 06 mars 2011 - 02:38 .