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[Dr.Warlock]

Is there some confirmation that Mind Blast is your default starting spell? I know they gave it to you in the demo as a default, but I suspected that was due to being a demo and Bethany having Fireball to start. In origins you were saddled with Arcane Bolt at level 1, but at least they gave you 1 extra spell point to spend at creation. I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't like Mind Blast.

[Malfustheone]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Malfustheone wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Arcane: 3
Mind Blast (Free)
Elemental Shield: 2
Crushing Prison

Wait... Mind blast is a free point? what is this madness?

All classes have a free abiliity; Mage/Mindblast, Rogue/Miasmic flask, Warrior/Pommel strike. 

Point me to where that info comes from, it sounds too silly

[Malfustheone]

godlike13 wrote...

Primal: 1
Rock Armor

Thumbs up to you sir.

[Aesieru]

godlike13 wrote...

My Mage Hawke: 25 Point Build

Spirit: 8
Spirit Strike: 2
Virulent Walking Bomb: 3
Death Vortex: 2
Spirit Mastery: 1

Elemental: 5
Winter's Grasp: 1
Cone of Cold: 2
Fireball: 1
Firestorm: 1

Primal: 1
Rock Armor

Arcane: 4
Mind Blast (Free)
Elemental Shield: 2
Paralyzing Prison: 2

Blood Mage: +25 Health
Blood Magic: 6
Blood Magic : 1
Sacrifice: 1
One Foot In: 2
Paralyzing Hemmorage: 2

Force Mage: 125% Physical, and Elemental force for spells
Force Mage: 1
Fist of the Maker: 1

Pretty!

[Cloaking_Thane]

I squeed myself, this is the stuff that makes me happy, cant wait! 45hrs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zhel_Ryn]

As far as we know so far, that starting ability for each class isn't technically free, as you don't get any other talent points for level 1. Level 25 is either 25 point build including Mind Blast, or 24 point build excluding ("free").

Modifié par Zhel_Ryn, 06 mars 2011 - 08:06 .

[Aesieru]

You'll get tomes, rewards, and what not... same as in DA:O.

[Phoenixblight]

Malfustheone wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

Malfustheone wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Arcane: 3
Mind Blast (Free)
Elemental Shield: 2
Crushing Prison

Wait... Mind blast is a free point? what is this madness?

All classes have a free abiliity; Mage/Mindblast, Rogue/Miasmic flask, Warrior/Pommel strike. 

Point me to where that info comes from, it sounds too silly

In the TGS demo thread. 


Edit:

Peter Thomas wrote...

Shiroukai wrote...

It still wasn't Peter who anwsered [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie].

They've been seen in numerous demos. Pommel Strike, Miasmic Flask and Mind Blast.

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 06 mars 2011 - 08:09 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Ok here is my build(again). I didnt list them in the order I'll get them because its boring, and tiring. I'll just end up following this build, and choose what makes sense to me.

25 point build.

Spirit: 5
Spirit Strike: 2
Virulent Walking Bomb: 3

Elemental: 3

Searing Fireball: 2
Firestorm

Primal: 4

Rock Armor
Chain Reaction: 2
Tempest

Arcane: 2

Mind Blast (Free) 
Arcane Shield
Crushing Prison

Blood Mage: +25 Health

Blood Magic: 7
Blood Magic(Sustained)
One Foot In: 2
Sacrifice
Paralyzing Hemorrhage: 2
Blood Slave

Force Mage: 125% Physical, and Elemental
force for spells

Force Mage: 4
Fist of the Maker
Telekinetic Blast: 2
Pull of the Abyss

With this build I sort of wanted to take advantage of the mages Aoe potential, and Pull of the Abyss.

My idea is pretty simple. Throw up all my sustains(for protection, and blood magic), use Pull of the Abyss to group the enemies together. Cast Virulent Walking Bomb on one of the enemies, and cast Blood slave on the person I used "VWB" on. While using "One foot in" if my health gets too low. If they get a little testy I'll just cast "Fist Of The Maker" on them to have them sit the **** down. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 06 mars 2011 - 08:24 .

[Avl521]

Malfustheone wrote...

Avl521 wrote...

 Ok... I think I got my Build. Blood Force Mage.

*snip*

You need another point in arcane before crushing prison.  Also, you dont plan on upgrading fist of the maker?

Oh You're right! I hadn't noticed! well I'll fit Stunning Blast somewhere there to get Cruhing Prison, making it a 23 points build.
And I had/have no plans on upgrading anything in Force Mage I just couldn't like the crowd control, I chose it because I hate Spirit Healer and I liked the 125% bonus of The Force.
What could possibly go wrong with an Elemental Blood Jedi Mage? lol  

[Malfustheone]

Phoenixblight wrote...

In the TGS demo thread. 

That was just for the demo, it isn't confirmed for the actual game. Also, I would doubt we would be forced to take it as our first skill, considering the demo didnt have character creation as the full game would have.

[Phoenixblight]

Malfustheone wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

In the TGS demo thread. 

That was just for the demo, it isn't confirmed for the actual game. Also, I would doubt we would be forced to take it as our first skill, considering the demo didnt have character creation as the full game would have.

Btw in the acutal demo Rogue's start off with evade not miasmic flask. Look at my edit. 

[Malfustheone]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Blood Mage: +25 Constitution

Blood Magic: 7

Blood Lust: 2

One Foot In: 2

Paralyzing Hemorrhage: 2

Blood Slave

You need sacrifice for Blood Slave, also blood mage gives 25 health, not con.  25 con would be ridiculous.
*edit, shortened post

Modifié par Malfustheone, 06 mars 2011 - 08:17 .

[Malfustheone]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Btw in the acutal demo Rogue's start off with evade not miasmic flask. Look at my edit. 

That doesn't change the fact that I do not think the actual game will be structured that way : /

[Aesieru]

I'd like to see the full tree for Sebastian, Merrill, and Anders... as well as Ferris

I also want to know why Carver didn't get "Survivor" and Bethany didn't get "Apostate" specialization trees.

It is less useful to use them without their own unique style.

Modifié par Aesieru, 06 mars 2011 - 08:18 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Malfustheone wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Blood Mage: +25 Constitution

Blood Magic: 7

Blood Lust: 2

One Foot In: 2

Paralyzing Hemorrhage: 2

Blood Slave

You need sacrifice for Blood Slave, also blood mage gives 25 health, not con.  25 con would be ridiculous.
*edit, shortened post

Ah your right I totally missed that. *editing* 

[Qays]

Force Mage is looking like a good tree to invest five or so points into, specifically for upgraded Fist of the Maker.

Spirit Healer looks really, really powerful. I just hope the game won't be balanced around it.

Didn't like the Blood Mage playstyle in Origins and I doubt I'll like it now.

[Phoenixblight]

[quote]Malfustheone wrote...

[quote]Phoenixblight wrote...

Btw in the acutal demo Rogue's start off with evade not miasmic flask. Look at my edit. 

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That doesn't change the fact that I do not think the actual game will be structured that way : /

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Believe what you will but Peter Thomas confirmed it. Here is the quotes in the correct context.

[quote]Shiroukai wrote...

[quote]Phoenixblight wrote...

[quote]Shiroukai wrote...

[quote]Phoenixblight wrote...

[quote]andar91 wrote...

Hey Peter, if rogues start with Miasmic Flask, what do the other classes start with? I suspect it's Pommel Strike and Mind Blast, but correct me if I'm wrong.[/quote]


He answered this already in this exact thread......

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No he didn't. At least I don't think he did.

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[quote]Naitaka wrote...

[quote]Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Do our characters start out with a free talent/spell like in origins? [/quote]

Yes, at least we do in the demo, I believe it was miasma flask for rogue and mind blast for mage, I can't remember what warrior starts out with though.

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THe warrior starts out with Pommel strike.

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It still wasn't Peter who anwsered .

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[quote]Peter Thomas wrote...

[quote]Shiroukai wrote...

It still wasn't Peter who anwsered .[/quote]

They've been seen in numerous demos. Pommel Strike, Miasmic Flask and Mind Blast.

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[godlike13]

Qays wrote...

Force Mage is looking like a good tree to invest five or so points into, specifically for upgraded Fist of the Maker.

Does have a pretty high Mana cost though.

[herotheory]

Wow, this kinda really sucks. Arcane warrior, you will be missed :,(

[turkojavla]

i have one question how can we unlock all those talents will they al be unlocked in the full game or not

[Malfustheone]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Naitaka wrote...

Yes, at least we do in the demo, I believe it was miasma flask for rogue and mind blast for mage, I can't remember what warrior starts out with though.

Oi, I don't know what your deal is, but I have been saying that I don't think the game will do what the demo did, get it through your head.

[Aesieru]

turkojavla wrote...

i have one question how can we unlock all those talents will they al be unlocked in the full game or not

At level 7 you unlock a specialization point you can use if you've unlocked a spec to use it with.

Most likely, the specialization will come from companions, tomes, or scenes within the game.

I for one, think we learn Blood Magic from *spoiler*.

Modifié par Aesieru, 06 mars 2011 - 08:34 .

[Malfustheone]

herotheory wrote...

Wow, this kinda really sucks. Arcane warrior, you will be missed :,(

Arcane Warrior would have been gibbed anyway, considering all sustainables now take a % of your max mana instead of a flat amount.